Heartstopper Forever film TRA propaganda: "People don't want me using public bathrooms", "Government is taking away my rights"

[HelenaRavenclaw]

The final instalment of Netflix's Heartstopper is here, and it's a film. The TRA propaganda is hardly unsurprising given that it's written by Alice Oseman the arch-TRA...but it's disgusting how these people are using a teen film to twist the truth and sensationalize things to get pity from the masses. "People don't want [trans people] to use public bathrooms": how convenient indeed to leave out the "intended for the opposite sex"! (Like saying "People don't want me to use money", leaving out the "stolen from others" part.) "Government is taking away my rights": what rights don't trans people have? (Does being poor give someone the right to simply grab other people's money without their consent? Doesn't the fact that laws exist and are enforced in society mean that the government is taking away rights from everyone, such as the right to break into one's neighbour's house, or the right to take home things from a store without paying?)

I hope that every sane adult whose children watch this film (and previous seasons of the show) will sit down with the kids and explain how deliberately deceptive and illogical the TRA propaganda is.

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I’ve seen the clip now. Managed to squeeze in that puberty blockers are no longer available into it too.

without mentioning that blocking puberty is the worst form of child abuse and any parent who’s gone along with it for a quiet life, needs their head wobbling.

They're not a single, monolithic group
So do you advocate for separating out the overall category of 'transwomen' into separate groups? So for instance allowing those with diagnosed gender dysphoria or gender dysmorphia into women's spaces, but refusing access to the AGP's and the self-identified?
How would that work in practice?

there's no good evidence that trans people as a whole pose a threat to women
But some trans people are a threat to women, so until you can identify and separate out the bad ones, they all must stay out of women's spaces.
Back to first principles of safeguarding: all male people over age 8 are not allowed in women's spaces.

But judging an entire group by the words or actions of a small minority is neither fair nor supported by the evidence.
Totally agree. I don't judge all transwomen negatively, that would be prejudice.
But they all have to stay out of women's spaces. Because they are men.

Not all transwomen are rapists, but any rapist can say he's trans. And until recently that was enough to be given free access to women's spaces.

Like all other males, the majority of whom are good men who would never harm anyone.

Given that Hollyoaks always felt like a dumbed down version of Brookside, that's really not a good sign.

OneUniquePearlFish They're [transpeople] not a single, monolithic group, and there's no good evidence that trans people as a whole pose a threat to women.

I disagree. Going beyond the anecdotal ' just ordinary people trying to live their lives, working, spending time with family and friends, and dealing with the same everyday challenges as everyone else, trans people do form a a single group in that they believe, against all serious scientific consensus, that human sex is not immutable and is not binary, and/or that there is something inherent called 'gender' which is more important than biological sex.

That is a threat not just to women, because it undermines our identity as a specific social group, but it also undermines a fact-based system which relies on empirical evidence and peer-review and objectivity and ethics and all that jazz..

Future generations of sociologists will have a field-day trying to work out how the unsupported, unprovable minority opinions of such a tiny percentage of the population have gained disproportionate influence in so many society parts of society - media, medicine, law, education, language..

The word 'threat' can mean more than the threat of physical harm. There's plenty of evidence of other kinds of harm.

Yes, sorry - transcrime.co.uk

Sodding autocarrot...