Heartstopper Forever film TRA propaganda: "People don't want me using public bathrooms", "Government is taking away my rights"

[HelenaRavenclaw]

The final instalment of Netflix's Heartstopper is here, and it's a film. The TRA propaganda is hardly unsurprising given that it's written by Alice Oseman the arch-TRA...but it's disgusting how these people are using a teen film to twist the truth and sensationalize things to get pity from the masses. "People don't want [trans people] to use public bathrooms": how convenient indeed to leave out the "intended for the opposite sex"! (Like saying "People don't want me to use money", leaving out the "stolen from others" part.) "Government is taking away my rights": what rights don't trans people have? (Does being poor give someone the right to simply grab other people's money without their consent? Doesn't the fact that laws exist and are enforced in society mean that the government is taking away rights from everyone, such as the right to break into one's neighbour's house, or the right to take home things from a store without paying?)

I hope that every sane adult whose children watch this film (and previous seasons of the show) will sit down with the kids and explain how deliberately deceptive and illogical the TRA propaganda is.

@OneUniquePearlFish “Asexuality faces systemic erasure, medical pathologization, and corrective violence”
Golly! Examples please…….

Gladly. And no, none of this comes from Tumblr.

• Medical pathologization: Take a look at the World Health Organization's International Classification of Diseases (ICD) and NHS practices. For years, asexuality was treated as a medical disorder under diagnoses like Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder. Although the ICD-11, which came into effect in 2022, now makes it clear that asexuality is a sexual orientation rather than a medical condition, clinical practice hasn't fully caught up. The Stonewall Ace in the UK report found that many asexual people still have their identity questioned by NHS professionals, who often assume it's a mental health issue or the result of trauma.

• Systemic erasure: The UK Government's National LGBT Survey (2018) found that asexual respondents reported the lowest average life satisfaction of any LGBT group (5.9 out of 10), and 89% said they avoided being open about their identity because they feared negative reactions. On top of that, the Equality Act 2010 doesn't explicitly include asexuality as a protected sexual orientation, since its definition is based on attraction to a particular sex. That leaves asexual people without clear statutory protection against discrimination based specifically on their orientation.

• Corrective violence: Research from King's College London, published in 2025 in collaboration with activist Yasmin Benoit, found that 31% of the public believe asexuality is something that can be "cured" through therapy. The widespread belief that asexual people are "broken" or just "haven't met the right person yet" contributes to experiences such as conversion efforts, corrective abuse, and sexual violence intended to "fix" them.

As for your "Golly! Examples please" comment, it illustrates exactly the kind of dismissive attitude I'm talking about. Instead of engaging with the evidence, you're mocking the idea that these experiences exist because they don't fit your view of what discrimination looks like. It's ironic to see people argue that they're deeply concerned with marginalization while simultaneously dismissing or gatekeeping someone else's experiences. That kind of reaction only reinforces the point that this has become an echo chamber where some identities are treated as legitimate and others
aren't.

Do you think if you post this pish on enough threads eventually no one will bother to call it out?

Never gonna happen.

I'd watch it. The movie/documentary about the reality of it I mean obviously.

OneUniquePearlFish
Corrective violence: Research from King's College London, published in 2025 in collaboration with activist Yasmin Benoit, found that 31% of the public believe asexuality is something that can be "cured" through therapy...

Have you any evidence of 'corrective violence'?
There's sadly plenty of evidence of 'corrective violence' in the form of rape and murder of lesbians around the world - South Africa in particular, but it happens in many other countries.

Can you give examples of 'corrective violence' such as rape and murder experienced by asexual people who were targeted specifically because of their asexuality, as lesbians are targeted specifically because of theirs?

Your other two examples are less than convincing: in the first case, asexuality is not treated as a medical disorder, so it's not pathologized, so that's OK; in the second, I don't see how you have proven 'systemic erasure' - low life satisfaction and being afraid of how people will react does not constitute 'systemic erasure'

Not being covered by EA2010 is shared by many many other identities, so asexuality is not being systemically erased any more than the rest.

Thank you for responding to the request for examples of persecution of asexual people, but I'm sorry, as examples of persecution or discrimination, they just aren't very convincing.
The 'corrective violence' one in particular seems weak in comparison with the established problem of 'corrective violence' - the rape/murder kind of violence - perpetrated against lesbians.

Are we supposed to be impressed by the involvement of Yasmin Benoit? From what I’ve seen she’s an attention seeking influencer.

My DD was watching this so I decided to watch the rest from about half way through.

Oh. My. God. It was bloody awful. Is this considered top notch tv these days? It’s was so cringy, cheesy, terrible dialogue and cliched. I don’t remember any of the nonsense trans activism because I was too busy rolling my eyes at the “drama” of it all.

Ah so a program that calls you out you and your disgusting views is "cringy". It's called a teen program and is exactly the representation we need in society.

Who is it "calling out"?

Representation of whom?

It calls out people who look at a show about LGBT+ youth simply trying to exist and reduce it to 'nonsense trans activism.' It's a teen drama, but the representation matters, and dismissing it like that speaks volumes.

it encourages professional lifelong victimhood.
And a lifelong hatred of women.

“trying to exist”
Jeez, trotting out the same hackneyed cliches on cue…..
Professional victim mentality.
Nobody wants to erase, kill or genocide anyone. That’s all in your head.

Imagine looking at a lighthearted teen romance, crying 'trans propaganda,' and then accusing others of having a victim mentality. Nobody is oppressed by Heartstopper. If a fictional teenager's story makes you this defensive, you might want to ask yourself why. Sorry to disappoint you, but you're not the victim here, you're just the villain.

Representation of LGBT+ youth. It shows them experiencing the exact same high school milestones as any other kids. This shouldn't be a controversial concept, yet clearly still is.

How does a young person wanting to live their life securely translate to a 'hatred of women'? It doesn't. That is a completely manufactured narrative designed to turn a basic human rights issue into a battleground. Trans people are not the issue, nor are they a danger to anyone, they are just trying to live their lives in peace. Compassion isn't a finite resource; you can advocate for women's rights and safety while simultaneously wanting trans youth to grow up free from bullying and harassment. The two are not mutually exclusive.

clearly you’ve not been paying attention to the men in frocks with decapitate terf banners, who’ve actually assaulted women. Trans women are male obviously and carry out criminal acts at a rate higher than natal men. Check the statistics. Is it just men you care about, their right to live securely and fuck biological women?
There’s a visceral, deep seated hatred of women in trans ideology and if you haven’t noticed it,
you've been asleep.

that gave me a much needed laugh. Thank you.

You are incorrect here. The SC ruling specifically made clear that 'case by case' proportionality was not what the law allows. The proportionality refers to having a single (biological) sex space. Certainly, trans people are not prevented going into single sex spaces, but those spaces must align with their sex not their gender id which does not entitle entry to single sex spaces of the opposite sex to the trans person. So a trans woman (a man) can use the men's single sex spaces. The position of trans men (women) is more nuanced since their masculine appearance must be taken into consideration in that they may cause alarm or fear in other women in the single sex space.

Focusing on a few extreme protest signs and using them to judge an entire group is a textbook example of prejudice. Most trans people are just ordinary people trying to live their lives, working, spending time with family and friends, and dealing with the same everyday challenges as everyone else. They're not a single, monolithic group, and there's no good evidence that trans people as a whole pose a threat to women.

In fact, the evidence points in the opposite direction. Study after study has found that transgender people are far more likely than cisgender people to experience violence, harassment, and other forms of victimization. One nationally representative analysis of the U.S. National Crime Victimization Survey found that transgender people were victims of violent crime at about four times the rate of cisgender people. The UK's Office for National Statistics has also reported higher rates of crime victimization among transgender respondents, while noting that its gender identity data has only been collected since 2019 and is still relatively limited.

Claims that trans people are inherently more criminal often rely on a misunderstanding of a 2011 Swedish study. The study's lead author has repeatedly said her work has been misrepresented. She has explained that the research looked at a historical group of people living under very different social and legal conditions, and that it should not be used to argue that trans people are naturally more criminal or to draw conclusions about transgender people today.

There's nothing wrong with criticising violent or hateful rhetoric at protests. But judging an entire group by the words or actions of a small minority is neither fair nor supported by the evidence.

Glad I could cheer you up. It's definitely easier to laugh it off than to actually self-reflect on why a teen show triggers you so much. But then again, laughter is a classic defense mechanism when you've been called out.

so you’re just going to ignore all the evidence and the fact that trans women have and continue to be a threat when in female
spaces? Have you heard of Isla Bryson? Or is it that you simply don’t care?

Isla Bryson is a convicted criminal who was rightfully imprisoned. Do you honestly believe that all trans people are rapists? Focusing entirely on one bad person to paint an entire population as a threat is incredibly dishonest. Every demographic contains bad actors, but weaponising the actions of one terrible person to justify a blanket hostility toward an entire group is textbook prejudice.

Unfortunately the transgender population has many bad actors as proved by current prison population statistics rather than a Swedish study.

I am happy for transgender people to live their lives free from discrimination and harassment however that does not extend to interfering with my right to single sex spaces free from people with the opposite sexed bodies. If they do not wish to use sss for their biological sex then they will need to use individual mixed sex facilities.

The actual prison statistics show that trans people make up less than 0.2% of the prison estate, so using that tiny number to imply the population is full of 'bad actors' is a massive reach.

As for toilets and spaces, trans people have been using the facilities that match their lived gender for decades without a single issue. The reality is that the vast majority of women in the real world don't care, aren't checking people's birth certificates at the door, and just want to wash their hands in peace. This is an online obsession, not a real-world problem.