'Heather' Herbert Charged Over Ann Widdecombe Comments

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About time imo

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2ln31g8gvo

I disagree. This is not investigative journalism, it is reportage. Note they also did not mention the skin colour or nationality of the offender. Because those weren’t mentioned in the police statement either.

Usually police statements will say "a 50 year old man" or "a 50 year old woman". Either the police didn't specify or the BBC chose to remove it.

Most likely the police didn't specify, given the particular situation.

Most likely the police didn't specify because most if not all police forces are captured by gender ideology. Previously they would have referred to Herbert as a "woman" and 'she", and defended that action as respecting the person's chosen identity - see for instance Scarlett Blake (murderer) and Naomi O'Brien (child sex offender).

This attracted some criticism, so now the police will often avoid referring to sex or using pronouns altogether in statements about transgender people.

You will have noticed that the police statements about the two men arrested in the investigation into Ann Widdecombe's murder (one later released without charge) referred to the sex, ethnicity and nationality of the arrested persons, "white British man".

At least they're not calling Herbert a woman. Though it would obviously be better to identify him as a man.

I assume the "white British male" terminology was used in order to prevent unfounded rumours spreading online, potentially resulting in violent attacks on certain groups of people.

I sure you're right about the ethnicity and nationality aspect.

But Devon and Cornwall Police and Counter Terrorism Police didn't avoid mentioning the sex of the person arrested in Rotheram.

Police Scotland have very obviously avoided mentioning Herbert's sex, for one reason only.

Lmao they want to be ladies but sure go about it the wrong way 😆 🤣 keep it classy

If I had a health condition that required me, every day, to find a clean dry place where I could lie down, take off my knickers and spread my legs I doubt I'd be leaving the house.

Amazing.

If this person is defended and wins with the FSU to say the vile things they have said... then we can all say he is perverted man who gets off on invading womens spaces without fear of prosecution.

Makes the world a nastier place in the end but at least we can call a man a man.

From recent news reports there’s been the belief by police that the murder was ‘terrorism-related’. Which means the murder was carried out in pursuance of an ideology.

I’ll eat my hat if the 26yr old man they’ve arrested a couple of times on suspicion of murder and terrorism-related offences isn’t linked ideologically to this group of men in wigs who post videos and tweets about shooting people in the name of their ideology (ie terrorism).

And luckily there is also a crime of conspiring to incite terrorism - which carries a heavy custodial sentence - which means once these men in wigs’ hard drives have been forensically examined they’ll be residing at His Majesty’s pleasure, in a male prison (haha, should’ve thought of that before committing their crime in Scotland - home of sanity - being ‘spoken to’ by a load of Glaswegian crims on a daily basis.

Didn't the Telegraph, apropos of nothing, publish a little recap of the crimes of Bash Back earlier this week? Perhaps digital forensics have finally identified some of the people linked to it?
If I were a grifter director of a lawfare company who had shown support for Bash Back I'd also be deleting my Bluesky account 😁
No pasaran JoMo

We don't know. We'll have to wait and see.

Given he is being reported by everyone as a man, I think it's unlikely that he identifies as a woman. I know you are only saying he's likely to be connected in some way, not that he is trans identified himself. But we just don't know.

Isn't there a time limit before someone has to be charged or released? I think it's 3 days.

The Counter Terrorism Police made, and were granted, a special application to keep him for longer.

'We don't have much detail yet about why he was arrested on suspicion of this offence, but earlier the head of counter-terrorism policing said detectives had obtained a warrant of further detention. That means they can hold a suspect for up to seven days without charging them.

The maximum time police can hold someone under the Terrorism Act without charge is 14 days - and they would need to apply for another extension.'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c05y579g563t

Thanks. I did wonder if it was different for terrorism offences.

I read yesterday that the suspect lived with his father, who died a few months ago. I don't know if mum was on the scene or if he was employed.

I think one of his brothers lives with their mum. Poor dog the police siezed as well. Hopefully it will find its way to a better owner.

I read in an interview that his mum had moved to Devon. I may be jumping to conclusions but if his brother is with her in Devon I wonder if he is still on the car registration details but left the car behind?

The problem is they only identify ethnicity up front when someone is white so this is now feeding into the idea of two tier policing - that they are making a point that it is someone white but protecting other ethnicities. Or they mislead with ‘Welsh choir boy’ or ‘local man’. So now identifying someone as white is creating tensions not calming them.

The look on his face. Is is supposed to be martyrdom, a weird lie back and think or England look 😂 It's the oddest thing to announce to the world and quite possibly the least female thing ever.

I actually feel very sorry for someone who has such serious body dysmorphia they have unnecessary surgery on a physically healthy body. Extra points for that surgery messing up your genitals/sex life/urethra.

I genuinely can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would do it to themselves.

You think it is ‘body dysmorphia’ that drives them to get fake tits?

But the BBC did use female pronouns for Heather Herbert in the article?

Paragraphs 2 & 3:

Heather Herbert had reportedly posted that Widdecombe's death on Thursday was "good news" and that she hoped it was an "extremely painful death".

Her posts were reported to Police Scotland who initially said there was no criminality in relation to what she had written.

Yes, the article currently on the BBC website uses female pronouns and there is no indication that HH is male. I did see a version of the article that avoided pronouns, so I assume they have changed it?

Presumably, or some fetish.
Let's face it looking like that its high unlikely they're going to get near the real thing (should they want to).

Do we know if he has actually had the surgery, though? Or is dilating on the floor of a ladies’ loo also LARPing? Can’t imagine a several-way relationship based on sex will be a winner if you chop your willy off.

I think so and I think that’s why details have been so few and far between. Hopefully they’re examining Herbert’s devices which will lead to identifications of more males with violent intentions and it blows up the whole ring of them.

Have ‘transphobes’ been inciting actual violence or the telling the truth kind of violence?

Quite. The entire episode is porn addled exhibitionism meant to titillate his mates. In my opinion, obviously.

Fetishistic men have long dressed up their paraphilia as a medical condition. Posting creepy, blatantly obvious stuff will result in them totally running out of road, if they haven't already.