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Do you support “trans” or are you a monster? New Good Law Project billboard campaign.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/07/2026 17:39

The reliably foolish Good Law Project have commissioned a new outdoor campaign, coming to a street near you.

https://monster.goodlawproject.org/

Of course I support trans – I’m not a monster - Monster

Trans people should be able to live their lives in peace.

https://monster.goodlawproject.org/

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CassOle · Yesterday 22:24

Maybe the tower identified as being invisible?

Shedmistress · Yesterday 22:32

I just want to thank Amnesty and the Good Laugh Project for the last 2 days. After the tribunal last week we really fucking needed it. Top work.

Davros · Yesterday 22:59

@AgedPudding great post, very moving.
I’ve loved this thread, I was out all day so couldn’t contribute but I’m very sad to have missed my chance to get a monster t-shirt. I Iwonder if they did them in 2XL or only petite v-necks to complement spiny skirts?

StressedANmum · Yesterday 23:17

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · Yesterday 16:52

Shark(s) in Venice. A fine film. Before I saw it, I never knew sharks could change their size to fit into any canal they wanted to.

(Actually it is seriously awful, but I did laugh a lot.)

My DH collects absurd films about sharks. Everyone should have a hobby. Jurassic Shark, anyone? But also I refer everyone to Night of the Lepus, which demonstrates once for all that no matter how much ketchup you slather on a rabbit's face, it will still whiffle its nose at you.

Ooh, any other recommendations? DD17 loves a ridiculous shark film and she's in hospital at the moment so could do with some cheering up.

AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 23:19

borntobequiet · Yesterday 19:34

I’m sure the public is champing at the bit to see the (86metre) Trans Unity Quilt.

It was 96 metres to start with. Down to 86 metres now. Wonder if they put it through a hot wash?

Do you support “trans” or are you a monster? New Good Law Project billboard campaign.
AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 23:22

Also, checkout the slogans on the jacket in the photo. Maybe that's a teaser of what to look forward to.

murasaki · Yesterday 23:23

AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 23:19

It was 96 metres to start with. Down to 86 metres now. Wonder if they put it through a hot wash?

Maybe some of it detransitioned and was cast out.

Davros · Yesterday 23:23

AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 23:19

It was 96 metres to start with. Down to 86 metres now. Wonder if they put it through a hot wash?

They wouldn’t know how to do washing, they’re not real women 😆

lcakethereforeIam · Yesterday 23:24

How wide is it? Toilet paper width?

Keeptoiletssafe · Yesterday 23:24

MashaPav · Yesterday 18:54

And how are they overwriting anyone else’s rights? Please explain as a CIS woman who doesn’t have a chip on her shoulder.

I am presuming you are ambulant and are a woman, (but if not then just substitute the word woman for man):

Imagine you were at your most vulnerable in a toilet cubicle - perhaps going there feeling ill, then it turning into a medical emergency. Another woman entering the single sex washroom would be able to see or hear you were in trouble in your cubicle.

That safeguarding feature gets taken away when toilets are in a mixed sex environment. The toilet design has to be resistant to sound and floor-to-ceiling in height.

I think the right to a safe toilet design for ambulant people having an emergency, and for those with disabilities and conditions such as diabetes, allergies, epilepsy, heart conditions, stroke, should come before toilets becoming completely private. This means certain single sex designs are inclusive of disabilities as a very reasonable adjustment.

These conditions don’t ‘care’ what you identify as. I want safe toilets and this means a certain design that can only be used in a single sex environment. I want toilets to be clean and not smell and that is supported by certain single sex designs too.

If you feel unable to use the women’s toilet, the accessible is the next best design. It has an alarm pull cord and opens up directly on to a main thoroughfare, both safety features. This design relies on the occupant having the ability and desire to get help for themselves by pulling the cord. Now as an ambulant person you can help by making sure the cord has been left untied and reaches the floor. You can make sure the toilet is left in the best state for the next person who may not have the same capabilities to do this as you.

Options if you want men and women to be able to use all toilets:

Change all toilet provision to be the correct regulated design for a mixed sex environment. This isn’t economically and practically viable, or justifiable for health and safety. It discriminates against women, elderly, children, medically vulnerable including some disabilities and those with certain religious beliefs. This seems to be the preferred option of the Good Law Project - they called this the ‘sophisticated’ solution for the consultation for Keeping Children Safe in Education.

The other option is to change the building regulations and standards and legislation so men and women can be in designs made for a single sex environment. The Sexual Offences Act would need to be looked at because there’s certain sections involving toilets, because they are vulnerable places.

Which option do you want to go for?

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 23:37

AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 23:19

It was 96 metres to start with. Down to 86 metres now. Wonder if they put it through a hot wash?

The patch I can see says 'arm trans kids' because thats not at all an unhinged fucken suggestion.

Hedgehogsrightsarehumanrights · Yesterday 23:38

Just got back from Durham gala the average banner is about 2.5 meters width and height which is pretty big and bloody heavy to hold up.

If the quilt (which is going to be made in to a banner) is 86 meters made in to 12 panels that is still just over 7 meters.

i cannot see how anyone could carry it on poles.

i would imagine that even the most burliest of men (without any hormonal intake) would struggle.

I cannot wait to see all those weedy limp specimens dragging the banners around. The mind boggles.

Keeptoiletssafe · Yesterday 23:42

deepest apologies - my previous post was written hours ago and only just realised I didn’t send it so it’s out of order for a toilet post.

As for sharks, Jaws was a nightmare for conservationists. I love the big species. My favourite shark is a basking shark, though the prettiest is the whale shark. Both plankton feeders. Gorgeous animals.

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 23:45

Davros · Yesterday 22:59

@AgedPudding great post, very moving.
I’ve loved this thread, I was out all day so couldn’t contribute but I’m very sad to have missed my chance to get a monster t-shirt. I Iwonder if they did them in 2XL or only petite v-necks to complement spiny skirts?

Spiny skirts? Like Spiny Norman?

TransNormans are Normans!

murasaki · Yesterday 23:47

Hedgehogsrightsarehumanrights · Yesterday 23:38

Just got back from Durham gala the average banner is about 2.5 meters width and height which is pretty big and bloody heavy to hold up.

If the quilt (which is going to be made in to a banner) is 86 meters made in to 12 panels that is still just over 7 meters.

i cannot see how anyone could carry it on poles.

i would imagine that even the most burliest of men (without any hormonal intake) would struggle.

I cannot wait to see all those weedy limp specimens dragging the banners around. The mind boggles.

Yep, they don't like heavy lifting themselves, they like filters to do that.

AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 23:51

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 23:37

The patch I can see says 'arm trans kids' because thats not at all an unhinged fucken suggestion.

And the catchy 'Your death B4 my detrans'.

Davros · Today 00:00

@WrongKindOfFeminist oh dear, I meant spinny. Was Spiny Norman the hedgehog in Monty Python?

Suffrageknitter · Today 00:02

AimsAndObjectives · Yesterday 23:19

It was 96 metres to start with. Down to 86 metres now. Wonder if they put it through a hot wash?

On a (Nitter?) thread I’ve just been reading posts repeatedly say it’s 76m.

86m distresses me. At least if it’s 96m each of the 12 sections can be 8m long. 86/12 is 7 1/6, which would be difficult to measure precisely. Will this quilt be a bit approximate? If the image at the top of this page is anything to go by I’m not hopeful.

Perhaps a rough approximation of mostly-female-practised crafts is appropriate.

The Trans Unity Quilt | Good Law Project

The Trans Unity Quilt is almost ready to unveil and we need your help!

https://goodlawproject.org/campaign/the-trans-unity-quilt/

inkymoose · Today 00:05

WallaceinAnderland · Yesterday 16:58

OMG this campaign could not have been timed worse. It turns out that today is Shark Awareness Day.

"Celebrated on 14 July, Shark Awareness Day is designed to raise awareness of these incredible creatures and what we can to do help and protect various species of sharks."

https://support.wwf.org.uk/how-to-help-wwf-this-july

😄

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · Today 00:15

WallaceinAnderland · Yesterday 16:58

OMG this campaign could not have been timed worse. It turns out that today is Shark Awareness Day.

"Celebrated on 14 July, Shark Awareness Day is designed to raise awareness of these incredible creatures and what we can to do help and protect various species of sharks."

https://support.wwf.org.uk/how-to-help-wwf-this-july

SAD times.

Heggettypeg · Today 00:58

Well, to be fair, it has certainly raised shark awareness on Mumsnet.

inkymoose · Today 01:15

AgedPudding · Yesterday 20:46

And how are they overwriting anyone else’s rights? Please explain as a CIS woman who doesn’t have a chip on her shoulder

Well firstly, the poster said overriding not overwriting, which is hugely different.
And secondly, there is no such thing as a CIS woman.
There are just women - who are women. And then there are men.
There are men who want to be women and want to call themselves women, and therefore relegate you to a subgroup of women who are called CIS women.

It's not a chip you have on your shoulder. You may not have a chip on your shoulder, but you do have transwomen on your shoulder telling you that you are a CIS woman. Why allow your sex to be undermined? Why allow your sex to become a sub group of men? Why allow them to pretend they suffer the same life experiences?

I've had.
Extremely painful periods to the point I've been hospitalised for investigation.
Re: previous, vomiting and fainting from loss of blood. Anaemic.
Two ops to remove ovarian cysts.
One miscarriage and three caesarian sections.
Various bouts of BV (look it up!)
On entering the menopausal phase, brain fog, drying skin, vaginal discomfort,
and endless mammograms and vaginal swabs.

I mean, come on Judy. Which man can empathise with all that? (NONE)
I think maybe I've been 'unfortunate', but really, come on and think about it!
Is it surprising that some (most) women are slightly pissed off with Idia
W
**by and the like trying to pretend they've always been women?

I mean, for feck's sake. Don't let them demote you to CIS. You are more than that. You are a woman and they are not women and never will be. Let us get this silly pandering title of CIS women out of the repertoire. It means nothing outside of the transwomen's vocabulary. It means nothing, to anybody, in real life.

CIS only exists in a world where there are men who insist they are women.
Which they are not and never will be.

Yes. There's no such thing as a cis woman. I've had various events in my life, unique to females, but not unusual for women:

A miscarriage, at 18, where I was left alone in a hospital bed with a kidney dish into which I "passed" the "products of conception" (a tiny embryo and some fleshy remnants) whereupon I was trundled off to theatre and subjected to a D&C which is a dilatation and curettage, after which I was returned to the Ward where they asked me whether or not I had actually wanted a baby because surely I was far too young ...

Afterwards I had some sort of vaginal infection and had to have a D&C and cauterisation, where the inside of my vagina was burned surgically and then packed with gauze, which having dried and adhered to the cauterised wounds, then had to be manually removed.

And a little while after that, I had a ruptured ectopic pregnancy during which I nearly died.

I went on to conceive and give birth to two healthy babies.

A few years after that I had an ovarian cyst which had to be surgically removed, and another miscarriage.

Later, I endured the usual kind of thing around peri-menopause, involving very heavy periods at erratic intervals, flooding and clots, pain, terrible sleep, night sweats, brain fog, loss of sex drive, that went on for a few years.
During the peri menopause period, I became invisible and inaudible and irrelevant, if I wasn't before that. Middle-aged women simply don't exist. However, they are slightly less invisible than old women, as far as I can tell.

All of these things are not unusual for many women, for instance, one in four women will have a miscarriage. Not everybody suffers heavy painful periods, but those who do are ignored, sidelined, allowed to become anaemic, not offered medication or operations that will improve their quality of life, simply because they are women, and shouldn't be making a fuss. Endometriosis, polycystic ovary syndrome, uterine prolapse, bladder and bowel prolapse, cervical cancer, ovarian cancer, I've known numerous women with these conditions, some of whom have been persistently ignored and their lives made a misery as a consequence.

Women's health matters. Specialist services for women are important. Women's privacy and dignity matters.

There is no such thing as a cis woman. Women do not need additional labels. We are not a sub-set of women or a "type" of woman. We are women, not cis or mis or his or dis or giss or any other prefix. We have our sex in common with all other women, and the way that our bodies work is a function of our female sex. We do not need or want additional labels, made up genders, rules made by men, stereotyping or pigeonholing of any kind.

NebulousSupportPostcard · Today 06:32

SidewaysOtter · Yesterday 20:23

I suspect it will be an Emotional Support Quilt? Or perhaps it will be like those play blankets they give babies that have got a mirror sewn into one corner, a bit of scrunchy rustly fabric in another, and a big soft button you press to make it go beep.

86metres is an oddly specific length that I have enjoyed overthinking!

GLP must be quite skint after wasting so much money on failed law suits and monstrous ad campaigns, so I am wondering if they bought a bargain basement 100yard /91m roll of prequilted wadding, and found that 86metres was what was left after they cut off the shop-soiled ends 😂😂😂

NebulousSupportPostcard · Today 06:41

Hedgehogsrightsarehumanrights · Yesterday 23:38

Just got back from Durham gala the average banner is about 2.5 meters width and height which is pretty big and bloody heavy to hold up.

If the quilt (which is going to be made in to a banner) is 86 meters made in to 12 panels that is still just over 7 meters.

i cannot see how anyone could carry it on poles.

i would imagine that even the most burliest of men (without any hormonal intake) would struggle.

I cannot wait to see all those weedy limp specimens dragging the banners around. The mind boggles.

If they are carrying and then making a banner out of it, it can't be an actual quilt at all? They are probably going to parade a pieced top layer through the city centre, and will be very surprised at the size and shape of the "banner" that is left over at the end.

SidewaysOtter · Today 06:49

Hedgehogsrightsarehumanrights · Yesterday 23:38

Just got back from Durham gala the average banner is about 2.5 meters width and height which is pretty big and bloody heavy to hold up.

If the quilt (which is going to be made in to a banner) is 86 meters made in to 12 panels that is still just over 7 meters.

i cannot see how anyone could carry it on poles.

i would imagine that even the most burliest of men (without any hormonal intake) would struggle.

I cannot wait to see all those weedy limp specimens dragging the banners around. The mind boggles.

I struggle to manoeuvre a duvet to get the cover on it, it’s like fighting with a sail in a high wind. I wouldn’t want to be dragging 86 metres of it round London.