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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Arm the Dolls'

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WrongKindOfFeminist · 05/07/2026 10:23

Pictured is Natacha Kennedy of Goldsmiths.

T shirt says 'Arm the Dolls'

'Arm the Dolls'
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FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/07/2026 22:51

SexIsReal · 05/07/2026 11:20

AI so all needs verified but anyone wanting to know about this misogynist bully.

Also AI incorrectly sexed her but read he for she.

Natachca Kennedy is a lecturer in the Department of Educational Studies at Goldsmiths, University of London. She joined in 2007 and teaches across various programmes.

She is a trans woman who has publicly identified as such since at least the late 2000s/early 2010s, describing herself as having known she was a girl from around age five. She previously worked as a primary school teacher and has a background in journalism (including for The Guardian). She earned an MA (Distinction) from the Institute of Education and a PhD in Sociology from UCL in 2019.

Her academic profile centers on transgender studies, particularly trans youth, “cultural cisgenderism,” and critiques of what she terms “organised transphobia” or “gender-critical” perspectives. She is co-chair (with Prof. Sally Hines) of the Feminist Gender Equality Network (FGEN), described as an international network of intersectional feminists aimed at countering “anti-trans propaganda.” She has also been involved in trans activism through groups like Camden LGBT Forum, Trans Media Watch, and organizing Transgender Day of Remembrance.3058
Key Research and Publications
Kennedy’s work often frames trans identities as valid from a very early age and critiques societal structures that she sees as enforcing a binary “cisgender” norm. Notable pieces include:

  • “Transgender children: more than a theoretical challenge” (2010, co-authored/published under Natacha Kennedy and Mark Hellen) — Argues that many trans people become aware of their gender identity very early.71
  • “Cultural Cisgenderism: Consequences of the Imperceptible” (keynote/paper) — Discusses how everyday assumptions of cisgender norms harm trans people, especially children.69
  • Papers on young trans people’s “epiphanies,” agentic learning, and deferral before coming out.
  • Recent work (2025) critiquing the UK puberty blocker ban/Cass Review as harmful to children, contrasting it with “gender-critical” approaches, which she sees as denying trans subjectivity.49

Some critics have noted her use of both Natacha Kennedy and Mark Hellen (a prior or dual name) in publications and staff listings, raising questions about self-citation or dual profiles at Goldsmiths.

Focus on Attacking Gender-Critical Views
This is the area where Kennedy has drawn the most public controversy. She is a prominent voice equating “gender-critical” feminism (views prioritizing sex-based rights, biological sex as immutable for most legal/social purposes, and concerns over impacts on women/girls and children) with transphobia, far-right alliances, and harm.

  • 2018 Smear Campaign Allegations: Kennedy was reported (via The Times) as orchestrating or centrally involved in a closed Facebook group (Trans Rights UK) effort to create a “list” of academics and universities deemed “unsafe” for students due to gender-critical staff. Targeted institutions included Sussex (Kathleen Stock), Reading (Rosa Freedman), and others like Bristol, Warwick, and Oxford. The group discussed shaming professors, filing hate crime reports, and advising students to avoid certain departments/courses. All named academics in reports were women. Kennedy reportedly framed it as protecting students from “dangerous” environments. She declined comment at the time. Goldsmiths defended free speech in principle.2262
  • She has characterized gender-critical positions as rooted in “fragility,” allied with the far right/religious conservatives, and involved in “mirror-propaganda” against trans people. Her work and FGEN activities position opposition to self-ID, puberty blockers for minors, or male inclusion in female spaces as exclusionary and harmful.52
  • Public statements and events: She has spoken at conferences with panels on “Gender ‘Critical’ Feminism” and “Trans Exclusionism.” Recent examples include celebrating or harshly commenting on the death of Jenni Murray (former Woman’s Hour presenter, seen as gender-critical), with posts wishing her grave to be treated as a “gender-neutral bathroom.”
  • She argues that “gender-critical” influence stems from right-wing media campaigns and warns of chilling effects on trans-inclusive policies in universities (e.g., in response to Office for Students actions).

Kennedy frames her activism as defending trans human rights and intersectional feminism, viewing gender-critical feminism as a threat that undermines broader equality. Critics (including gender-critical feminists, some academics, and women’s rights groups) see her actions as attempts to no-platform, smear, or intimidate dissenters in academia, abusing institutional positions, and contributing to a toxic climate around sex/gender debates—especially regarding youth transitions, single-sex spaces, and free inquiry.

Broader Context at Goldsmiths
Goldsmiths has a reputation for progressive/left activism, with past controversies involving its LGBT society and free speech issues. Kennedy represents a strand of trans-inclusive educational studies that influences teacher training and policy views on gender in schools. Her role as a lecturer gives weight to her advocacy on trans youth issues.

Y'know, I can't help wondering if this bio belongs to one of our regular word salad slingers 🤔

FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/07/2026 22:56

cheezncrackers · 05/07/2026 12:02

It reminds me of the Margaret Atwood quote:

Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.

More and more I realise there's a final statement that pulls the two together...

Men kill women because they think that women are laughing at them

SirChenjins · 05/07/2026 23:07

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 22:51

Perhaps you enjoy that male privilege which as women we know runs deep.
This is a ridiculous thing to suggest without really knowing anything about me or my history.

They also know that the consequences of using the correct sex pronouns for you could mean there are serious repercussions for them
I think people now need to stand up for their beliefs then. The law is on your side.

Not ridiculous at all. Women know this.

The law is increasingly on our side, but isn't it awful that women are being dragged to court, losing their livelihoods, and facing all manner of threats for simply speaking the truth.

I hope your silence on the unisex facilities doesn't mean you use the female ones when unisex ones aren't available. Keep out - you don't belong here.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 05/07/2026 23:15

Etsy shows a theme.

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DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 23:16

SirChenjins · 05/07/2026 23:07

Not ridiculous at all. Women know this.

The law is increasingly on our side, but isn't it awful that women are being dragged to court, losing their livelihoods, and facing all manner of threats for simply speaking the truth.

I hope your silence on the unisex facilities doesn't mean you use the female ones when unisex ones aren't available. Keep out - you don't belong here.

Those things are awful, and I feel awful that woman have gone through that at the hands of TRAs

FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/07/2026 23:17

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 19:14

I was with you on the single sex spaces, associations and sports, but it feels a bit like you’re also trying to police language and identity now

Trying to create a culture where it is seen as "kind" or "respectful" to use the gender-based language a person prefers even though it demeans the speaker is also policing language you know.

And claiming ones transgender identity must take priority over someone else's sex-based identity when it comes to who gets to share single-sex spaces with who is also policing identity.

It cuts both ways. Every argument in favour of Genderism is also an argument against it. Which is how we know ultimately that it's not a valid, viable concept.

The only way Genderism works in a world where sex also exists is if it separates itself entirely from sex.

New words for these new identities. No appropriation of pre-existing sex based language and no appropriation of pre-existing sex based provisions¹ .

Start from a clean slate and build something new and perfectly appropriate for whatever the needs of Genders might be.

¹ The latter inescapably following the former, because scrape the surface and the justification for transgender appropriation of opppsite sex provisions was never any deeper than a linguistic trick; "TWAW". Take the word away and the whole argument collapses.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 05/07/2026 23:25

Does anyone think at some point trans activists might decide that threats, and pictures of guns, knives, and gallows on placards and T shirts are perhaps not the way to win hearts and minds?

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DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 23:28

FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/07/2026 23:17

Trying to create a culture where it is seen as "kind" or "respectful" to use the gender-based language a person prefers even though it demeans the speaker is also policing language you know.

And claiming ones transgender identity must take priority over someone else's sex-based identity when it comes to who gets to share single-sex spaces with who is also policing identity.

It cuts both ways. Every argument in favour of Genderism is also an argument against it. Which is how we know ultimately that it's not a valid, viable concept.

The only way Genderism works in a world where sex also exists is if it separates itself entirely from sex.

New words for these new identities. No appropriation of pre-existing sex based language and no appropriation of pre-existing sex based provisions¹ .

Start from a clean slate and build something new and perfectly appropriate for whatever the needs of Genders might be.

¹ The latter inescapably following the former, because scrape the surface and the justification for transgender appropriation of opppsite sex provisions was never any deeper than a linguistic trick; "TWAW". Take the word away and the whole argument collapses.

Every argument in favour of Genderism is also an argument against it. Which is how we know ultimately that it's not a valid, viable concept
I might be being a bit dense here, but I’m not entirely sure what arguments you mean here.

New words for these new identities. No appropriation of pre-existing sex based language and no appropriation of pre-existing sex based provisions¹
In a way I guess non-binary identifying people fit your ideal. They have their own language and identity.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/07/2026 23:31

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 22:20

I’m just presenting in the way that I want to. How you chose to respond to that is on you.

This is the "arm the dolls" thread, yes?

Given that we are in a world where those trans identifying men also exist, can you maybe see just a little bit of a reason women may "choose" to respond in a way that were they not being made - oh, not made by you sir, but by those other nastier transwomen - to feel unsafe to do so?

So going back to your earlier comment about wishing such men were not part of your community.... that may be something you are happy to say, but nevertheless you certainly benefit from the culture of fear and silence about the reality of women's feelings about trans identifying men that they have created, don't you?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/07/2026 23:36

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 22:28

I do know what you mean, and you obviously would have no way to know this in the moment but I’m not going to kick up a fuss or try get someone fired if they call me he. I do understand that some people would. But unless you expect me to go around telling everyone to call me he, there is nothing I can do.

But unless you expect me to go around telling everyone to call me he, there is nothing I can do

Shocking that you think that simple thing, being honest about your sex and letting people react to you in full knowledge, is beyond the pale.

Shocking, yet totally predictable.

Surely if, as you say, your presentation is so clearly who you are and that's what people react to, why would someone knowing your actual sex change that? You'd still present in exactly the same way, they'd still see exactly the same person, so why the stone wall?

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 23:39

FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/07/2026 23:31

This is the "arm the dolls" thread, yes?

Given that we are in a world where those trans identifying men also exist, can you maybe see just a little bit of a reason women may "choose" to respond in a way that were they not being made - oh, not made by you sir, but by those other nastier transwomen - to feel unsafe to do so?

So going back to your earlier comment about wishing such men were not part of your community.... that may be something you are happy to say, but nevertheless you certainly benefit from the culture of fear and silence about the reality of women's feelings about trans identifying men that they have created, don't you?

but nevertheless you certainly benefit from the culture of fear and silence about the reality of women's feelings about trans identifying men that they have created, don't you?
I think this is certainly a debatable point. I think those individuals have done very little good for the community. Without their excesses and bullying of dissenting voices, I think the situation and the debate would be much less toxic and there would be more good will on both sides.

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 23:42

FlirtsWithRhinos · 05/07/2026 23:36

But unless you expect me to go around telling everyone to call me he, there is nothing I can do

Shocking that you think that simple thing, being honest about your sex and letting people react to you in full knowledge, is beyond the pale.

Shocking, yet totally predictable.

Surely if, as you say, your presentation is so clearly who you are and that's what people react to, why would someone knowing your actual sex change that? You'd still present in exactly the same way, they'd still see exactly the same person, so why the stone wall?

Other posters have told me people already know I’m male in everyday interactions, so I think I’d look very silly going around telling everyone

SirChenjins · 05/07/2026 23:44

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 23:16

Those things are awful, and I feel awful that woman have gone through that at the hands of TRAs

But that is the end result of the collective behaviour of TIMs - women forced to step aside to allow men to insert themselves into their single sex spaces. No more though - we've had enough.

And if you do find yourself without unisex facilities (your silence has been very telling), don't dare go into the women's - you do not belong there.

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 23:59

SirChenjins · 05/07/2026 23:44

But that is the end result of the collective behaviour of TIMs - women forced to step aside to allow men to insert themselves into their single sex spaces. No more though - we've had enough.

And if you do find yourself without unisex facilities (your silence has been very telling), don't dare go into the women's - you do not belong there.

You said “women are being dragged to court, losing their livelihoods, and facing all manner of threats for simply speaking the truth.”. That is the result of a very vocal and activist part of the community.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/07/2026 01:03

WrongKindOfFeminist · 05/07/2026 23:25

Does anyone think at some point trans activists might decide that threats, and pictures of guns, knives, and gallows on placards and T shirts are perhaps not the way to win hearts and minds?

No. Because they like that side of it.

EdithStourton · 06/07/2026 01:42

WrongKindOfFeminist · 05/07/2026 23:25

Does anyone think at some point trans activists might decide that threats, and pictures of guns, knives, and gallows on placards and T shirts are perhaps not the way to win hearts and minds?

'Well, look, we have a skull as our emblem... so I'm just wondering... are we the baddies?'
(With apologies to Mitchell and Webb.)

Helleofabore · 06/07/2026 02:35

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 21:43

I understand I am biologically male.

expecting others to behave as if they can’t tell you’re a man that you start causing a problem
I’ve never had to insist anyone refer to me as a woman or call me she.

I refer you back to your post at 20.34.

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy ·Yesterday 20:34

*she

and you have complained about being called mate.

Theunchosenone · 06/07/2026 05:15

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 23:39

but nevertheless you certainly benefit from the culture of fear and silence about the reality of women's feelings about trans identifying men that they have created, don't you?
I think this is certainly a debatable point. I think those individuals have done very little good for the community. Without their excesses and bullying of dissenting voices, I think the situation and the debate would be much less toxic and there would be more good will on both sides.

But it means women are much less likely to challenge a man in female spaces so you win there. Women who might have otherwise told you to get out are fearful of you being a TRA nutter. You can’t tell me that doesn’t make you a but happy. You get to use women’s spaces knowing they’re too scared to do anything about it.

mrshoho · 06/07/2026 07:13

WrongKindOfFeminist · 05/07/2026 23:25

Does anyone think at some point trans activists might decide that threats, and pictures of guns, knives, and gallows on placards and T shirts are perhaps not the way to win hearts and minds?

They just can't help themselves. The makeup, heels and frocks will never change the intrinsic male DNA running through their bodies. It is mpossible for them to ever think or act like a woman. This is what they will never understand. How could they? What they do is put on a costume or alter their bodies cosmetically making a superficial outward change. The male arrogance of expecting us to accept them as woman shines through. The bullying and aggressiveness is the opposite of how women deal with issues.

Helleofabore · 06/07/2026 07:51

Theunchosenone · 06/07/2026 05:15

But it means women are much less likely to challenge a man in female spaces so you win there. Women who might have otherwise told you to get out are fearful of you being a TRA nutter. You can’t tell me that doesn’t make you a but happy. You get to use women’s spaces knowing they’re too scared to do anything about it.

I believe we have had a discussion where some male people with transgender identities do indeed deny the impact of intimidation through media, government and other organisation policies and guidance and social media. Apparently, that intimidation has not created a situation where girls and women will comply and not show any visual discomfort.

Meaning that apparently, every single interaction with female people that a male person with a transgender identity has, is supposedly authentic acceptance.

As many of us have said before, this is part of the harm of this false framing of language compliance as being ‘respectful’. I have not seen any convincing argument that considers the complete disregard of ‘respect’ for any person wanting to maintain accurate language and to not comply to a language demand to use language based on someone’s subjective identity rather than based on material reality.

Even on this very thread, we have seen a male person attempting to control language women use.

But… apparently. No intimidation and no sexism and misogyny. Nothing to see!

SirChenjins · 06/07/2026 08:36

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 23:59

You said “women are being dragged to court, losing their livelihoods, and facing all manner of threats for simply speaking the truth.”. That is the result of a very vocal and activist part of the community.

Exactly - and one which has created the TIM world in which women live in fear. If only more TIMs had stood up against the creation of that world, kept to their male spaces, and fought against the dismantling of female sex-based rights - but sadly those voices have been very quiet.

MassiveWordSalad · 06/07/2026 08:38

Gosh, yet another me-me-me-rail. This one full of wide-eyed naivety at the situation trans rights activists have created over the last twenty years, when the irony is that this forum only exists because women weren’t allowed to talk about the threat to our rights until fairly recently. “I’ve never forced anyone to call little old moi a lady, they just do it automatically”. Please 🙄

On the actual subject of this discussion, that t-shirt puts me in mind of ‘Eat the Rich’ graffiti, or ‘Arm the Homeless’ that Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine scrawled across his guitar. Being provocative for the sake of being provocative. But given the actions of TRAs over the last few years - harassing women, including using physical violence, along with the rise of Bash Back, it’s not a remotely a good look. Can you imagine International Women’s Day and a woman wearing a T-shirt saying ‘Arm Feminists’? That would be considered aktchool genocide.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 06/07/2026 08:42

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 23:42

Other posters have told me people already know I’m male in everyday interactions, so I think I’d look very silly going around telling everyone

Why is that relevant?

As I said, if as you say people react to your presentation without caring about your sex rather than because they think your presentation means you are female, clarifying that you are not won't change anything, will it?

SerafinasGoose · 06/07/2026 09:10

Arm them against what, exactly? As if we don’t know.

KilkennyCats · 06/07/2026 10:12

DumbfoundedAndUnhappy · 05/07/2026 23:42

Other posters have told me people already know I’m male in everyday interactions, so I think I’d look very silly going around telling everyone

By presenting as female you’re sending the message that you don’t consider yourself male.
Nobody else is confused as to what sex you are, but they’re not going be the ones to burst your bubble, for obvious reasons.