What is a “good experience” in a women’s toilet?

[MyAmpleSheep]

From Reddit.

List your good experiences of using single sex spaces of your gender?

Cheer up everyone’s day by listing your good experiences of using single sex spaces.
Helping fix a woman bra, giving a woman a pad, receiving compliments from women…

Can GI supporting people see why examples of a “good experience” for a trans-identifying man in a women’s toilet being - (first) to play with a woman’s underwear and (second) get involved in her menstruation - is profoundly unhelpful?

Wouldn’t a “good experience” simply be to use the facilities and leave?

How does this “cheer up everyone’s day״?

wtaf is 'feminine' about washing blood off your hands, or pumping breast milk? Or having a miscarriage? 🙄

Female, yes. Biologically female. Why on earth is it weird for women to be able to do these things without a man spectating? Any man. Never mind one there for his own gratification.

'Sacred'? Women's privacy and dignity is to be talked about with derision is it?

I want a place to deal with the physical embodiment of femaleness, which is real, and not something any man experiences or understands. I don't want femininity in toilets or anywhere else.

Women do do all sorts of things in toilets but even then, they want to get in and out as quickly as possible, even if it's longer than they'd like because of clearing up perimenopausal flooding or whatever. And mostly we prefer it to be private. Public loos are used through necessity, rather than something we're all looking forward to as the highlight of my day.

I think also there are different sorts of public loos. A Friday night pub is not the same as a museum or at a train station. There might be more expectation of social interaction than others, but still rarely more than, "I think thst cubicles free."

No flood of dubious origin 😂That really tickled me!

Do you know what "sacred" means? We are talking about loos, not shrines to Diana nor Lady chapels. The cleanups and breast pumping are done in loos because there is nowhere else to do them that is a) away from male onlookers and b) has running water. These are purely practical matters, many of which are caused by our female biology, not any kind of "feminine" ethereal essence.

So quickly? So pleased their moderation is so efficient and effective especially considering how long it takes to remove posts that acknowledge the reality of sex…….

sarcasm

Yes, running water to cope with the diverse realities of the female body, not as a sacred spring.

Yes, really quite revealing, isn’t it?

The best loo I have ever visited was the Gents loos in Rothesay. They are the most beautiful Victorian loos - all marble and brass, and they are a tourist attraction. They have a custodian who will, if no gentleman is using the facilities, escort ladies in to see the magnificence.

The Ladies, in the same block, is converted from the Gents - I think it used to be a mirror image, and obviously it was built before ladies got loos in public places, so the conversion spoils all the marble with lots of hardboard.

One time, I walked into the ladies room at work and one of the toilets had a big messy poop on the seat. On my way out the door, I told the janitor I liked to hurry and take her lunch break so that one of the managers would have to clean it while she was clocked out :)

The derision towards any female needing to exclude males was unmissable.

Using this logic, is a urinal a sacred place of masculinity?

Not ‘feminine’, no. ‘Female’, yes. I did not suggest it was weird for women to be able to do such things in their own space. That’s something I support.

Personally? I do think spaces like this should regarded as sacred, or if that’s a term that doesn’t appeal to you, then perhaps ‘sacrosanct’ works better.

That does sound to me rather like the defence of a sacred place of femininity.

Curious wording. I would have called all those mundanities of existence as a female human. Using "sacred" in the same paragraph as writing about clearing up vomit is most disconcerting, and rather suggests you've had little contact with it or other bodily fluids. Did you use generative AI to help you compose your post?

Revealing of what, exactly?

Clean, has toilet paper, door locks, toilet flushes, soap in the soap dispenser. I have never once helped a woman with their bra, offered a woman a pad or complimented another woman.

Odd, given I am also a woman.

My fella and I went to a restaurant in a posh hotel in that London. He popped to the loo and, when he came back, told me the gents had an attendant! The thought of using the ladies with someone hanging around waiting to see if I needed any help totally put me off using the ladies 😁

I hung on until we returned to our cheap hotel. Fortunately my dad was in the Guards and I've inherited his bladder control.

That would be down to your interpretation of the word ‘femininity’ versus the reality of female toilet needs that are unique to male toilet needs.

interesting thought, but no.

Personally? I do think spaces like this should regarded as sacred, or if that’s a term that doesn’t appeal to you, then perhaps ‘sacrosanct’ works better.

The word "private" is more practical. You may say more prosaic, but that's all to the good, as enough men seem to want to get into women's single-sex areas as it is without additional marketing. These should be private, comfortable hygienic places we meet our bodily needs as menstruating mammals, so they don't need to be classed in the same bracket as Stonehedge.

Have you changed usernames on this thread? I have no idea what you think.

Apologies, but I’ve read this a number of times and can’t make sense of it. Would you mind rephrasing it?

No.

So you are not the poster the comment was referring to or quoted.