City of Bern apologies to TW with ‘certain physical characteristics that were not percieved as female’ was removed from nudist area of women only pool.

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Taken from a post by SEEN in Journalism. I used AI for an English translation as I don’t speak German so apologies if anything is incorrect.

https://x.com/journalismseen/status/2071729481488740824?s=46&t=ZX_bLozRqm8etdGICMcAvA

Stadt Bern

29 June 2026 | Municipal Council, Directorates
Incident involving a police operation at Marzili Outdoor Pool
Yesterday, Sunday, an incident occurred in the women-only section called “Paradiesli” at the Marzili outdoor swimming pool involving a transgender woman. At the instruction of the pool management, the person was removed from the pool by the police. It was later determined that this decision was wrong. In the future, the Sports Office will communicate the access rules more clearly.
The “Paradiesli” is a voluntary clothing-optional (nudist) area for women, located in a physically separated section in the southeastern part of the Marzili outdoor pool. On Sunday evening, a woman was present in the Marzili who, due to certain physical characteristics, was not perceived as female by some other bathers. Several visitors to the “Paradiesli” felt disturbed by her presence. Other visitors expressed solidarity with the woman. As tensions at the site continued to rise, the facility management spoke with the woman and asked her to leave the “Paradiesli.”
After discussions involving the “taktvoll” security service’s presence and prevention team also failed to calm the situation, the pool management mistakenly decided to have the transgender woman removed by the police because they feared the situation would escalate. The tense and conflict-ridden atmosphere led to this incorrect assessment of the situation. The Directorate for Education, Social Affairs and Sport expressly regrets this decision and apologizes to the person concerned.
Access rules for the separate women’s area “Paradiesli”
All people who identify as women and live as women are permitted to enter the voluntary clothing-optional area “Paradiesli.” An internal guidance document, prepared jointly by the Sports Office and the Office for Gender Equality, assists staff in managing access to gender-segregated areas, including the “Paradiesli.” It states that, in difficult cases, the officially registered sex shown on an identity document is decisive. The person concerned met the access requirements.
Measures for future management of the “Paradiesli”
The City of Bern is firmly committed to fostering a supportive community that opposes discrimination and exclusion. It calls on all visitors to the swimming pool to treat one another with respect. The city will now hold discussions with both the people who reported the incident and those affected. In addition to the internal guidance document, a public guide will be created explaining access to the “Paradiesli,” both on-site and online. Over the coming days, staff at the Marzili outdoor pool will receive support from the “taktvoll” presence and prevention team and will receive more targeted training in handling gender-specific protected spaces, with particular attention to the concerns relating to the “Paradiesli.”
Directorate for Education, Social Affairs and Sport

I would love to see how they train women to distinguish between 'male voyeur' and 'trans women' in a clothing optional place where presumably they won't have their passport on hand?

I think it’s a free municipal facility, you just pay to rent lockers, it looks amazing tbh.

It’s such a shame for the women there to be losing what felt like a safe space. I do think you’re right about it peaking people. Trans self ID is sold on the basis of trans people just want to pee etc. Then you end up with a naked bloke arguing the toss about being in a female only area because the law says he can. Sometimes the law is an ass.

Fella flashes multiple women and he’s not arrested. Ok….,.

I suspect he’s generally found on social media complaining (with typical male aggression ) about lesbians who don’t want to have sex with him.

Gosh, you'd think those dreadful women would learn not to look at the cock, how very rude of them

It’s not his ‘hurt feelings’ that trump everything else. I assume he knows he has a dick, knows it will be controversial to expose it, knows some will be very upset by it, but he is confident enough to get it out anyway. This is not a person wanting to quietly assimilate into the group and be accepted as one of them. This is a fucking pervert. These are the feelings and rights that trump everything else.

Of course it was a nudity area.

These are the same people who claim theyre just trying to live their lives as women, while having absolutely zero consideration for the effect their behaviour and demands actually have on women.

First step to being a woman should be the ability to show basic empathy to women.

A bloke insists on entering a women-only nudist area, gets removed at the women’s request but then receives an apology from the state because he’s got a certificate which negates not only the millennia of male behaviour women have been subjected to but also his meat and two veg ‘certain physical characteristics’?

And women are supposed to be okay with that? The patriarchy is obviously alive and thriving.

This is a fucking pervert

Yes, but he’s a pervert with a certificate.

👏🏻

FFS.

Was he really walking around with his dick out and then wondered why he was asked to leave the female only area? My face is aching from the eyerolling, eyebrow raising, frowning reading this! This absolute crock of shit needs to end. Complete fools that have allowed this nonsense across the world are a laughing stock.

What a brave individual. Sacrificing "her"self so that its clear that Real Women like them have the right to be naked around women.
And what nasty women for compkaining instead of worshiping such a brave individual.

(Sarcasm. In case people miss it).

I didn't say 'hurt feelings' - his feelings aren't hurt, regardless of how much he claims they are. Everyone knows that.

I do think it’s interesting that Switzerland brought in self ID in 2020 and this hasn’t cropped up till now. The Swiss are famously good at adhering to social conventions, I wonder if it was a foreigner.

I assume there’s a parallel male nude area? Hope all the women strip off and go in there now. See how they like it!

Exactly. If there is a reason to exclude men, then they should exclude men.

As an aside, I’m sure it’s far more about voyeurism and sexual gratification watching women naked, than about indecent exposure. So it likely wouldn’t make any difference at all if he was dressed.

Men have been caught having set up cameras and filming females in changing rooms and it’s considered a very serious sexual crime due to the fact the man can watch the women in a state of undress, with the state of dress of the man having no bearing on the situation. So it’s not just whether he’s naked or not but also the fact he’s seeing the other women naked.

I was in London the other weekend and was stopped at the roadside for the naked bike ride. I would guess 95% (probably more) were men. Most had no clothes on but some shirts but no pants so the nakedness was waist down. I think some men just think their manhood is something that everyone wants to see.

I know that too. Some will claim though that this poor innocent individual has been unkindly treated by the other women in the pool.

He's doing it because he is a disgusting pervert end of. And no doubt a "proud and brave lesbian".

Maybe he thought he’d still “pass” when he got his meat and two veg out.

Fuck this shit.

Exactly. It's always the same - kindness only goes one way with these men.

I think this is great. This will make more people peak - not just the women in the pool, but also their partners and friends. I still have friends in some self-ID countries who tell me it won't affect them, there will be common sense decisions (even if in conflict with the law) and it is no real problem. Bring it on, is all I can say.

I was going to say that women should no longer use the space, but now I'm hoping to remember the name for the Muslim style of swimming clothing. Since it is by choice the women have as to how they dress, if they all wear modest swimwear neck to toe, the man might not want to use the area.
Selfish words I don't use, not human.