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The Bluestocking: home of the ice-cold Mojito foot-bath

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MarieDeGournay · 29/06/2026 18:06

Welcome all to the Bluestocking Women's Pub, where food and drink are free as in gluten free, calorie free, alcohol free - but still delicious. And free free too, of course.
Served by highly professional staff who are gerbils.

The Bluestocking Ice-Cold Mojito Foot-bath kept us deliciously cool through the heatwave. Come and join us, in case there's another one🌞

The Bluestocking: home of the ice-cold Mojito foot-bath
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ShinyBlueTractor · 04/07/2026 16:15

Magpiecomplex · 04/07/2026 16:02

That's made me laugh so much!

Haha, me too, thanks for the pic @Thehorticulturalhussie !

Possibly a niche interest but we're well excited today for the start of the Tour de France, it always means the summer is properly here! I particularly enjoy the views you get in passing of France from the helicopters - absurdly lovely looking country that it is. 😍😍😍
Plus - bonus tour round Barcelona today!

Happy 4th of July to those who celebrate it. And happy Saturday to everyone!

ShinyBlueTractor · 04/07/2026 16:17

Chersfrozenface · 04/07/2026 16:15

US army uses two for parachuting humvees.

😮
Well you learn something new every day..

Magpiecomplex · 04/07/2026 16:20

Chersfrozenface · 04/07/2026 16:15

US army uses two for parachuting humvees.

A combine is considerably bigger than your average hummer.
I once came across a Claas combine being driven through the middle of a local town, in the dark, all the lights on, along a bus route with cars parked all the way down one side. I was mightily impressed by the driving, while simultaneously bemused as to why it was necessary.

Thehorticulturalhussie · 04/07/2026 16:29

@Chickadeeinme thank you for posting that NYT article. Thankfully my children are in their 30s and 40s and established in their careers but I understand that it's the same here in the UK, we're having our own version of political unpredictability. I think that the point about it being effectively free with AI to post various roles with zero likelihood of anyone getting through to an actual interview is damning but that particular genie is well and truly out the bottle and I don't have the knowledge or experience to know what, if anything, can be done.

ErrolTheDragon · 04/07/2026 16:30

Sizes seem to be variable in the environs of the Bluestocking - gerbils and Colin being on a similar scale for instance. So the obvious solution is for tractors and their drivers to be shrunk to gerbil proportions for the parachute descent.

MyrtleLion · 04/07/2026 16:33

Chickadeeinme · 04/07/2026 14:12

@MyrtleLion I read an article in today’s NYT and thought of you - I’m on my iPad so can’t DM so I’m posting it here:
“My job search has left me questioning every single decision I’ve made”

By Jessica Grose
I spent the past few weeks talking to people across the country who are looking for work in our low-hire, low-fire labor market, where hiring rates are nearly as low for steady jobs as they were in the aftermath of the Great Recession, despite an otherwise fairly decent overall economy. While the hiring market has perked up a bit in recent months, the latest jobs report suggests that wage growth has been outpaced by inflation in the past year. The number of unemployed people who have been out of work for over six months is the highest it’s been since the pandemic. This job market is not just bad for young people, it’s bad for everyone looking.

None of the men and women I spoke to are sitting idly by, twiddling their thumbs. They are doing every possible thing they can to spiff themselves up for a new role: taking classes to get a new certification and going back to school for a year to get a master’s degree. They are attending every in-person networking event under the sun. They are all over various job sites, applying for appropriate roles every week, if not every day, even though they worry that some of those job listings might be scams.

They’re extremely aware that an approximate 90 percent of companies use artificial intelligence at some point in the hiring process, so they’re also trying to contort their résumés to appeal to the bots, even though how those tools determine their suitability is a “black box.”

As I was speaking to job seekers, the image that kept popping into my head is the waiting room in the 1988 movie “Beetlejuice.” If you haven’t seen the film, this scene features a newly dead couple, Adam and Barbara Maitland, who are just realizing that they are, in fact, not alive. While trying to figure out their new reality, they end up in a kind of bureaucratic, fun-house mirror underworld, surrounded by people with shrunken heads and green skin, where they are waiting for their case worker.

The Maitlands find a book in their house, “Handbook for the Recently Deceased,” but it’s written in such thick jargon they don’t understand a word of it. In the underworld, when they ask questions, people roll their eyes and say they should have studied the manual harder, telling them things like, “It’s all in the handbook!” and “The intermediate interface chapter on haunting says it all.”

Looking for a job in 2026 is a version of this purgatory.

Nena Caviness, 46, who works in manufacturing and retail, has been looking for a job for six months. She uses artificial intelligence to sharpen her résumé and find the best fitting roles, and says she has sent in over 200 applications. She has made it to the interview stage a few times, and each time it involves an arduous set of take-home assignments and in-person interviews. “I can run a flawless process, prepare for 40 hours, perform well across multiple panels, reach the final round three separate times and still end with nothing. ” Caviness said.

Caviness’s experience is not unique, and the description that kept coming up among both the job seekers and economists I spoke to was: strange. Having the economy in a low-fire, low-hire equilibrium “is actually pretty unusual,” said Erika McEntarfer, a research scholar and a distinguished policy fellow at Stanford’s Institute for Economic Policy Research, who affirmed my waiting room analogy. “I can’t recall a recent precedent.”

This strange and unusual job market is the result of a confluence of technological and political forces: A.I. kneecapping entry-level jobs, continuing tariff chaosand uncertainty around trade policy, federal funding cuts and the Iran War pushing up oil prices at the beginning of the year. (McEntarfer herself has been a victim of our chaotic and vindictive administration.) We don’t even know how to measure the full impact of artificial intelligence on the labor market yet, as my newsroom colleague Ben Casselman explained earlier this week, “Researchers can’t even agree on basic questions like how many companies are using A.I. or which workers are most vulnerable to the disruptions it could cause.”

The unknown unknowns about A.I. may be making employers gun-shy about creating new roles, or hiring to replace the wave of boomers who are retiring, said Cristian deRitis, a managing director and deputy chief economist at Moody’s Analytics. Artificial intelligence makes posting roles very easy for employers, which can lend the impression a business is thriving, he explained: “It’s costless to post openings everywhere and just kind of see what happens. If there’s a great candidate that all of a sudden shows up in your doorstep, maybe you advance it.” But maybe they don’t.

This uncomfortable ambiguity is affecting how we all feel about the economy, and how we counsel young people to live their lives. There is so much anxiety about whether the sensible financial choices of the past — going to college, buying a home — are still the most rational choices in an economy that may no longer reward those choices. As one 40-something with two graduate degrees who has been looking for work for over a year put it to me, “My job search has left me questioning every single decision I’ve made as an adult.”

Over the next few weeks, I am going to write about navigating the purgatory job market. I plan to cover the long tail of federal job and budget cuts and their impact on workers and what the day-to-day grind of searching feels like. I will try to pull back the curtain on how artificial intelligence is impacting the job hunt — for both employers and employees — and how it’s making everyone involved feel like they’re getting catfished.

While no one can really predict when or if this strange equilibrium might shift, I will also explore policy ideas that could make the experience much less Kafkaesque. It’s a tremendous waste to have motivated and experienced job seekers languishing, demoralized for years, and I do believe that we can make the search a little less ugly than it is right now.

Thank you.

She has made it to the interview stage a few times, and each time it involves an arduous set of take-home assignments and in-person interviews. “I can run a flawless process, prepare for 40 hours, perform well across multiple panels, reach the final round three separate times and still end with nothing. ” Caviness said.

This is exactly my experience. So much so that the work I have done for free in preparing my vision of the future, or what I would do in post, as interview preparation, is now listed on my CV, as projects I’ve done as a consultant.

Chersfrozenface · 04/07/2026 16:36

ShinyBlueTractor · 04/07/2026 16:15

Haha, me too, thanks for the pic @Thehorticulturalhussie !

Possibly a niche interest but we're well excited today for the start of the Tour de France, it always means the summer is properly here! I particularly enjoy the views you get in passing of France from the helicopters - absurdly lovely looking country that it is. 😍😍😍
Plus - bonus tour round Barcelona today!

Happy 4th of July to those who celebrate it. And happy Saturday to everyone!

Watching the Tour this year is a problem in the UK.

It's free - or at least live seven stages are free - in Welsh on the S4C TV channel in Wales as well as the BBC iPlayer streaming service across the UK, and also the S4C Chwaraeon YouTube channel. The stages to be shown are 1, 2, 3, 18, 19, 20, 21.

Otherwise you have to pay £30.99 for a month pass for TNT Sports and HBO Max, for all 21 stages live, studio analysis and on-the-ground reporting. And remember to cancel your subscription.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/07/2026 16:45

ShinyBlueTractor · 04/07/2026 16:15

Haha, me too, thanks for the pic @Thehorticulturalhussie !

Possibly a niche interest but we're well excited today for the start of the Tour de France, it always means the summer is properly here! I particularly enjoy the views you get in passing of France from the helicopters - absurdly lovely looking country that it is. 😍😍😍
Plus - bonus tour round Barcelona today!

Happy 4th of July to those who celebrate it. And happy Saturday to everyone!

I love the Tour too, @ShinyBlueTractor - I think that, what with the Rugby Nations cup and Wimbledon on at the same time, I may just watch the round ups in the evening - I think those might be free to air?

ShinyBlueTractor · 04/07/2026 17:05

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 04/07/2026 16:45

I love the Tour too, @ShinyBlueTractor - I think that, what with the Rugby Nations cup and Wimbledon on at the same time, I may just watch the round ups in the evening - I think those might be free to air?

Yeah the cycling keen beans in my house are saying recaps are going to be on Channel 5 at night @SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius . I guess that's something.

Didn't know about the Welsh option, thanks @Chersfrozenface ! But it's a shame it's so limited

With reluctance we've signed up for TNT, and apparently DH will definitely remember to cancel it after a month (let's see..😏)

ShinyBlueTractor · 04/07/2026 17:16

Chickadeeinme · 04/07/2026 14:12

@MyrtleLion I read an article in today’s NYT and thought of you - I’m on my iPad so can’t DM so I’m posting it here:
“My job search has left me questioning every single decision I’ve made”

By Jessica Grose
I spent the past few weeks talking to people across the country who are looking for work in our low-hire, low-fire labor market, where hiring rates are nearly as low for steady jobs as they were in the aftermath of the Great Recession, despite an otherwise fairly decent overall economy. While the hiring market has perked up a bit in recent months, the latest jobs report suggests that wage growth has been outpaced by inflation in the past year. The number of unemployed people who have been out of work for over six months is the highest it’s been since the pandemic. This job market is not just bad for young people, it’s bad for everyone looking.

None of the men and women I spoke to are sitting idly by, twiddling their thumbs. They are doing every possible thing they can to spiff themselves up for a new role: taking classes to get a new certification and going back to school for a year to get a master’s degree. They are attending every in-person networking event under the sun. They are all over various job sites, applying for appropriate roles every week, if not every day, even though they worry that some of those job listings might be scams.

They’re extremely aware that an approximate 90 percent of companies use artificial intelligence at some point in the hiring process, so they’re also trying to contort their résumés to appeal to the bots, even though how those tools determine their suitability is a “black box.”

As I was speaking to job seekers, the image that kept popping into my head is the waiting room in the 1988 movie “Beetlejuice.” If you haven’t seen the film, this scene features a newly dead couple, Adam and Barbara Maitland, who are just realizing that they are, in fact, not alive. While trying to figure out their new reality, they end up in a kind of bureaucratic, fun-house mirror underworld, surrounded by people with shrunken heads and green skin, where they are waiting for their case worker.

The Maitlands find a book in their house, “Handbook for the Recently Deceased,” but it’s written in such thick jargon they don’t understand a word of it. In the underworld, when they ask questions, people roll their eyes and say they should have studied the manual harder, telling them things like, “It’s all in the handbook!” and “The intermediate interface chapter on haunting says it all.”

Looking for a job in 2026 is a version of this purgatory.

Nena Caviness, 46, who works in manufacturing and retail, has been looking for a job for six months. She uses artificial intelligence to sharpen her résumé and find the best fitting roles, and says she has sent in over 200 applications. She has made it to the interview stage a few times, and each time it involves an arduous set of take-home assignments and in-person interviews. “I can run a flawless process, prepare for 40 hours, perform well across multiple panels, reach the final round three separate times and still end with nothing. ” Caviness said.

Caviness’s experience is not unique, and the description that kept coming up among both the job seekers and economists I spoke to was: strange. Having the economy in a low-fire, low-hire equilibrium “is actually pretty unusual,” said Erika McEntarfer, a research scholar and a distinguished policy fellow at Stanford’s Institute for Economic Policy Research, who affirmed my waiting room analogy. “I can’t recall a recent precedent.”

This strange and unusual job market is the result of a confluence of technological and political forces: A.I. kneecapping entry-level jobs, continuing tariff chaosand uncertainty around trade policy, federal funding cuts and the Iran War pushing up oil prices at the beginning of the year. (McEntarfer herself has been a victim of our chaotic and vindictive administration.) We don’t even know how to measure the full impact of artificial intelligence on the labor market yet, as my newsroom colleague Ben Casselman explained earlier this week, “Researchers can’t even agree on basic questions like how many companies are using A.I. or which workers are most vulnerable to the disruptions it could cause.”

The unknown unknowns about A.I. may be making employers gun-shy about creating new roles, or hiring to replace the wave of boomers who are retiring, said Cristian deRitis, a managing director and deputy chief economist at Moody’s Analytics. Artificial intelligence makes posting roles very easy for employers, which can lend the impression a business is thriving, he explained: “It’s costless to post openings everywhere and just kind of see what happens. If there’s a great candidate that all of a sudden shows up in your doorstep, maybe you advance it.” But maybe they don’t.

This uncomfortable ambiguity is affecting how we all feel about the economy, and how we counsel young people to live their lives. There is so much anxiety about whether the sensible financial choices of the past — going to college, buying a home — are still the most rational choices in an economy that may no longer reward those choices. As one 40-something with two graduate degrees who has been looking for work for over a year put it to me, “My job search has left me questioning every single decision I’ve made as an adult.”

Over the next few weeks, I am going to write about navigating the purgatory job market. I plan to cover the long tail of federal job and budget cuts and their impact on workers and what the day-to-day grind of searching feels like. I will try to pull back the curtain on how artificial intelligence is impacting the job hunt — for both employers and employees — and how it’s making everyone involved feel like they’re getting catfished.

While no one can really predict when or if this strange equilibrium might shift, I will also explore policy ideas that could make the experience much less Kafkaesque. It’s a tremendous waste to have motivated and experienced job seekers languishing, demoralized for years, and I do believe that we can make the search a little less ugly than it is right now.

Thanks @Chickadeeinme , this is awful, and honestly gives me the fear, thinking of the DC I know and how they're going to fare as they move into adulthood.
It's already unfeasibly hard for them to get what I would have thought of years ago as pretty normal PT jobs like in fast food or retail.

And of course thinking of anyone who is job hunting with more experience (and more commitments to pay for). Sorry these employers seem to ask you for so much work @MyrtleLion with no promise of a job at the end 😔

Chickadeeinme · 04/07/2026 17:37

I imagine the job market in the UK is not much different to that over here. My friend's granddaughter graduated ln May ast year in stellar fashion from Wellesley (high-ranking college) in astrophysics. She had spent two summers interning with NASA (at their request the second time). Could she get onto a PhD programme? Could she buggery. Nor could she get a job she was qualified for. After volunteering in various places in between, she finally got a job in March this year at Harvard in an appropriate department, with a promise that when they actually get some funding (cut drastically as soon as Trump was elected) she could have a place on a PhD program. This is a girl who has been top flight at everything all the way through school, and exactly the kind of person who should be on a trajectory to be a very experienced scientist. But that counts for zilch these days apparently.

EdithStourton · 04/07/2026 18:01

Magpiecomplex · 04/07/2026 16:01

Ah, you're a woman who knows her tractors. Excellent choice, Modom.

I'm going for the combine special. I've never driven a combine, and really want to!

That was next on my list.
I have been on one when it was working, which was fabulous fun. If the chance ever comes again, I'll ask if I can take the controls for 30 seconds.

I reckon you could do a farm diversification scheme that gave people the chance to drive a tractor, play about on a combine and drive a mule. The insurance would be a nightmare, but you'd have queues right down the lane. Half the patrons of the Bluey for starters. I'd pay extra to bring the trailer alongside for the combine to offload.

EdithStourton · 04/07/2026 18:04

ErrolTheDragon · 04/07/2026 16:30

Sizes seem to be variable in the environs of the Bluestocking - gerbils and Colin being on a similar scale for instance. So the obvious solution is for tractors and their drivers to be shrunk to gerbil proportions for the parachute descent.

We can always rely on Errol for a solution which brings Escher to mind.

EmpressaurusKitty · 04/07/2026 18:06

EdithStourton · 04/07/2026 18:04

We can always rely on Errol for a solution which brings Escher to mind.

That would also solve the problem of equalling out the sizes of the various football teams.

EdithStourton · 04/07/2026 18:09

Thehorticulturalhussie · 04/07/2026 15:59

The orderly queue back to the top

That's a photo from my dream holiday.

Re the job search, one of my DC is currently stuck in that loop. She has work, but p/t and low skilled. She just keeps plugging away.

Magpiecomplex · 04/07/2026 18:50

EdithStourton · 04/07/2026 18:01

That was next on my list.
I have been on one when it was working, which was fabulous fun. If the chance ever comes again, I'll ask if I can take the controls for 30 seconds.

I reckon you could do a farm diversification scheme that gave people the chance to drive a tractor, play about on a combine and drive a mule. The insurance would be a nightmare, but you'd have queues right down the lane. Half the patrons of the Bluey for starters. I'd pay extra to bring the trailer alongside for the combine to offload.

If Diggerland can do it, I'm sure it must be possible to get insurance for Tractorland.

Thehorticulturalhussie · 04/07/2026 18:58

Magpiecomplex · 04/07/2026 18:50

If Diggerland can do it, I'm sure it must be possible to get insurance for Tractorland.

I’ll get onto NFU. They’ll do it and they’re pretty good about paying out. Though submitting a claim for tractor write off due to parachute failure might tax their loss adjusters. I still think they’d be game just for the publicity.

Thehorticulturalhussie · 04/07/2026 19:03

I have deliberately avoided the Tempest Tribunal today and have happily spent the day walking, in the garden and in the Blue Stocking. I came here for sanity, common sense and conversation grounded in reality in order to avoid the lunacy of the TT. The BS has NOT let me down.

Magpiecomplex · 04/07/2026 19:48

Thehorticulturalhussie · 04/07/2026 19:03

I have deliberately avoided the Tempest Tribunal today and have happily spent the day walking, in the garden and in the Blue Stocking. I came here for sanity, common sense and conversation grounded in reality in order to avoid the lunacy of the TT. The BS has NOT let me down.

Careful, you're making us sound dangerously normal!

EdithStourton · 04/07/2026 19:50

Magpiecomplex · 04/07/2026 18:50

If Diggerland can do it, I'm sure it must be possible to get insurance for Tractorland.

Now all I need to do is convince a farmer...

ErrolTheDragon · 04/07/2026 20:01

My DD got to drive a very small tractor (not very successfully tbh) when she was 16 and did the RYA level 1 powerboat course - they had a little Kubota to tow the rescue from the shed and back.

Thehorticulturalhussie · 04/07/2026 20:19

Magpiecomplex · 04/07/2026 19:48

Careful, you're making us sound dangerously normal!

To be honest I don’t think that bar gerbils, the Gerbil World Cup, a foot spa full of mojito or parachuting tractors are especially abnormal. We’re pretty boringly normal I’d say.

Chickadeeinme · 04/07/2026 22:06

We're the kind of normal I like.

WearyAuldWumman · 04/07/2026 22:12

Hedgehogforshort · 03/07/2026 19:47

<covers ears> Berberis eeeek

I have a Darwinii as part of my prickly drive hedge. It keeps suckering. I have a pyracantha in a large pot below the back living room window, as a burglar deterrent.

NotAtMyAge · 04/07/2026 22:57

Thehorticulturalhussie · 04/07/2026 16:29

@Chickadeeinme thank you for posting that NYT article. Thankfully my children are in their 30s and 40s and established in their careers but I understand that it's the same here in the UK, we're having our own version of political unpredictability. I think that the point about it being effectively free with AI to post various roles with zero likelihood of anyone getting through to an actual interview is damning but that particular genie is well and truly out the bottle and I don't have the knowledge or experience to know what, if anything, can be done.

Sadly those in their 30s and 40s aren't immune from the horror that is C21st job-hunting. After two of our three grandsons (early/mid 20s) were made redundant last year and spent months applying for jobs, this year it's the turn of my highly experienced 44 year-old niece who was made redundant in the spring, when the charity for which she has worked for the last 10 years was merged with another in the same field. She commented on how much the process has changed since she last applied for a job and how dispiriting it is ether not to hear anything or to get a response and perhaps even make it to the interview stage, but all to no avail. 😟