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user293948849167 · 26/06/2026 13:19

Good! The rights of the child should be the top priority here.
Don’t carry and give birth to a child if you don’t want to be known as it’s mother

DiaAssolellat · 26/06/2026 13:21

Good to hear that the rights of the child are considered first and foremost above the irrational demands of one very deluded woman.

Wishesandhorses · 26/06/2026 13:26

Interesting too the clear statement that not only the rights of the person with the gender identity can be taken into consideration. Should the SCJ go to the ECtHR this is likely to be a similar outcome; they would need to give equal weight to women's rights.

MyAmpleSheep · 26/06/2026 13:35

Wishesandhorses · 26/06/2026 13:26

Interesting too the clear statement that not only the rights of the person with the gender identity can be taken into consideration. Should the SCJ go to the ECtHR this is likely to be a similar outcome; they would need to give equal weight to women's rights.

Yes, I think this is a very significant indicator.

Brainworm · 26/06/2026 13:36

The word ‘mother’ on a birth certificate refers to the female reproductive role, trans men cannot escape this.

The word ‘mother’, in other contexts doesn’t necessarily refer to reproductive role (e.g in the case of adoption). People get het up about step mothers dropping the ‘step’ adjective.

It’s a controversial area beyond trans specific issues

Seethlaw · 26/06/2026 13:43

I've shared elsewhere how when I got into the trans community, I tried to express my sadness that I could never hope to become a father in the same biological way as I was already a mother, and I was told in no uncertain terms that I was a man and that was that. I have no doubt Freddy was similarly gaslighted and encouraged to entertain a delusion, and that being reminded of the biological truth must hurt.

At the same time, my heart aches for this poor child whose mother can't even respect their basic human rights.

ItsCoolForCats · 26/06/2026 13:59

Wishesandhorses · 26/06/2026 13:26

Interesting too the clear statement that not only the rights of the person with the gender identity can be taken into consideration. Should the SCJ go to the ECtHR this is likely to be a similar outcome; they would need to give equal weight to women's rights.

Those were my thought too. TRAs seem incapable of understanding that other people have rights too, but this is something that the ECHR will have to consider should a case arising from FWS arrive there.

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OhBuggerandArse · 26/06/2026 14:01

Aidan O'Neill again. He is doing sterling work. Have people seen this note he published yesterday about the potential for class actions by female prisoners against the Scottish Ministers? https://t.co/ViTRAzIs3r

https://www.1six.com/media/hfslncar/women-prisoners-rights-and-class-actions.docx

SwirlyGates · 26/06/2026 14:02

I was very surprised to see this thread title/post, and had to follow the link before I was sure it wasn't a typo with ECHR instead of EHCR!

SqueakyDinosaur · 26/06/2026 14:10

Reddit is FURIOUS about this!

Imnobody4 · 26/06/2026 14:12

SqueakyDinosaur · 26/06/2026 14:10

Reddit is FURIOUS about this!

I'll bet they are. They are pinning all there hopes on the ECHR.

IrnBruAndDietCoke · 26/06/2026 14:16

It’s a funny old time at the moment in the UK, on one hand we’ve got common sense prevailing in cases like this, and they’re moving the blokes out of Scottish women’s prisons, but on the other hand we’ve got the batshittery of the draft conversion therapy bill.

BoeotianNightmare · 26/06/2026 14:17

God, didn't know McConnell was still banging on about this. Good result.

Anyone know more about this sentence:
The Court confirmed that while “the right to respect for private life entails the freedom to define one’s gender identity and the right to legal recognition of one’s gender identity”...

Where is the latter right enshrined?

IrnBruAndDietCoke · 26/06/2026 14:17

And I really would have expected the ECHR to side with woke ideology. I’m pleasantly surprised on that one.

Nannyfannybanny · 26/06/2026 14:18

I watched the documentary some years ago,and Freddie kept insisting "he", was a man, while obviously having all the female representative organs , the risks to a baby, stopping the male hormones in order to become pregnant,with anger. "Freddie" has been Badgering the High Court for years, demanding to be father. Imagine Father Freddie, mother unknown or unnamed!

PencilsInSpace · 26/06/2026 14:19

Good. Hopefully those poor kids will get birth certificates now.

PencilsInSpace · 26/06/2026 14:26

Failing to register your child's birth because of your ideology is dodgy as fuck, whether it's because of your strange ideas about 'sovereignty' and the relevance of obscure maritime law, or because of your strange ideas about sex, gender and motherhood.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/if_a_child_has_not_been_register

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/23/man-refused-to-register-sons-birth-high-court

Children who are not registered are at risk because legally they don't exist so they don't show up on anyone's radar.

Freddy's two will be fine because she loves the limelight so everyone knows of these two children's existence but what kind of example has she set? Are there other mothers who have failed to register their children because they believe themselves to be fathers? Maybe really vulnerable messed up young women who might not even have publicly come out as 'trans'?

The number of unregistered births in the UK is a known unknown.

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Shortshriftandlethal · 26/06/2026 14:30

I have sometimes wondered whether Freddie Mconnel is actually bring up their child themselvs, or whether the grandmother is doing it?

The thought that the child might be told that McConell is their father is just awful. The poor child has a right to know they have a mother; even if a child has not met their mother. We were all carried in the womb of a woman and it was she that gave birth to us. This is a foundational story in the human psyche, with very deep resonance.

Apollo441 · 26/06/2026 14:32

SqueakyDinosaur · 26/06/2026 14:10

Reddit is FURIOUS about this!

Have you got a link. I love their meltdowns.

Nowisthetimeforicecream · 26/06/2026 14:36

Ridiculous you can't opt out of being a mother just because you like Football and want to be paid 12% more. Trans-men are women.

SqueakyDinosaur · 26/06/2026 14:38

Apollo441 · 26/06/2026 14:32

Have you got a link. I love their meltdowns.

Your wish is my command, Apollo!

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1ug2zwb/echr_reject_application_challenging_trans_men/

ItsCoolForCats · 26/06/2026 14:40

I wonder when we'll find out whether they will agree to hear the Victoria McCloud case? Michael Foran thinks the prospects of the ECHR agreeing to consider it are very low.

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ZoeCM · 26/06/2026 14:43

Just read a reddit comment about how ridiculous it is that Freddy can change "his" own birth certificate but not "his" children's to match. Because it's not as though children are people in their own right.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 26/06/2026 14:44

It really is all about them. Not any child involved in this.

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