Help end medical misogyny. Sign our petition.

Help end medical misogyny.
Sign our petition.

Sign the petition

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

All transwomen are to be moved out of Scottish female prisons today. 🙌🏻

360 replies

sohard · 23/06/2026 12:48

https://x.com/forwomenscot/status/2069385340159225981?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

Scotgov will not appeal and the current transgender policy has been withdrawn. At long bloody last!!

For Women Scotland (@ForWomenScot) on X

Scottish Government will not appeal Lady Ross's ruling on prisons.

https://x.com/forwomenscot/status/2069385340159225981?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

OP posts:
Thread gallery
11
Wishesandhorses · 25/06/2026 08:32

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/06/2026 06:36

I use it and similar put downs, similar to others he's used as well. He's showing his age, he's just another middle aged bloke telling woman what they must accept.

Which is a bit pointless really....

I mean, the law is the law. It's done and dusted, those men are coming out of the women's estate. Ranting changes nothing.

And it's not as if women on a women's rights forum are suddenly going to go 'oh gosh, thank you! I see the light! I do not want any women to have rights to boundaries or safety! I wish to enable men with er, interesting rap sheets to assault, harass and terrify (other) women in state care!' is it?

Do hope the kleenex will hold out.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 25/06/2026 09:17

ElenOfTheWays · 25/06/2026 00:05

Not all progress is positive. That's the myth.
Sometimes it's better to go back and try again with a different idea
Or accept that the way it was before was actually better, and was that way for a reason.
And some "progress" is actually a regression.

Try to be a little more flexible in your thinking.

Exactly so. We must never, ever forget that back in the 1960s and 70s when all sorts of social changes were being pushed through, many of them making life better, there were other ideas under serious consideration that either did make life worse for many or came perilously close to it.

First example: 'free love' - sex outside marriage no longer regarded as shameful. A good thing on the whole, but it made a lot of men and boys feel even more entitled than they already did to sex from others who were not always willing or able to consent.

Second example: Paedophile Information Exchange being taken very seriously indeed by some progressive organisations run by people so open-minded their brains had fallen out. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378

The Paedophile Information Exchange was affiliated to the National Council for Civil Liberties - now Liberty - in the late 1970s and early 1980s. But how did pro-paedophile campaigners operate so openly?
A gay rights conference backs a motion in favour of paedophilia. The story is written up by a national newspaper as "Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib".
It sounds like a nightmarish plotline from dystopian fiction. But this happened in the UK. The conference took place in Sheffield and the newspaper was the Guardian. The year was 1975.

...PIE was formed in 1974. It campaigned for "children's sexuality". It wanted the government to axe or lower the age of consent. It offered support to adults "in legal difficulties concerning sexual acts with consenting 'under age' partners". The real aim was to normalise sex with children.
Journalist Christian Wolmar remembers their tactics. "They didn't emphasise that this was 50-year-old men wanting to have sex with five-year-olds. They presented it as the sexual liberation of children, that children should have the right to sex," he says.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 25/06/2026 09:18

Heggettypeg · 25/06/2026 00:45

This. There was some blithering idiot on here the other day who thought ( or claimed to think) that we only had separate male and female prisons for reasons of prudery!
Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to lock up male criminals with women is either thick or sick. Or possibly both.

I do love the phrase 'blithering idiot'. Thanks for reminding me of it.

ENGLANDalltheway · 25/06/2026 09:26

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 25/06/2026 09:17

Exactly so. We must never, ever forget that back in the 1960s and 70s when all sorts of social changes were being pushed through, many of them making life better, there were other ideas under serious consideration that either did make life worse for many or came perilously close to it.

First example: 'free love' - sex outside marriage no longer regarded as shameful. A good thing on the whole, but it made a lot of men and boys feel even more entitled than they already did to sex from others who were not always willing or able to consent.

Second example: Paedophile Information Exchange being taken very seriously indeed by some progressive organisations run by people so open-minded their brains had fallen out. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378

The Paedophile Information Exchange was affiliated to the National Council for Civil Liberties - now Liberty - in the late 1970s and early 1980s. But how did pro-paedophile campaigners operate so openly?
A gay rights conference backs a motion in favour of paedophilia. The story is written up by a national newspaper as "Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib".
It sounds like a nightmarish plotline from dystopian fiction. But this happened in the UK. The conference took place in Sheffield and the newspaper was the Guardian. The year was 1975.

...PIE was formed in 1974. It campaigned for "children's sexuality". It wanted the government to axe or lower the age of consent. It offered support to adults "in legal difficulties concerning sexual acts with consenting 'under age' partners". The real aim was to normalise sex with children.
Journalist Christian Wolmar remembers their tactics. "They didn't emphasise that this was 50-year-old men wanting to have sex with five-year-olds. They presented it as the sexual liberation of children, that children should have the right to sex," he says.

The Paedophile Information Exchange was affiliated to the National Council for Civil Liberties - now Liberty - in the late 1970s and early 1980s. But how did pro-paedophile campaigners operate so openly?
A gay rights conference backs a motion in favour of paedophilia. The story is written up by a national newspaper as "Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib".
It sounds like a nightmarish plotline from dystopian fiction. But this happened in the UK. The conference took place in Sheffield and the newspaper was the Guardian. The year was 1975.

...PIE was formed in 1974. It campaigned for "children's sexuality". It wanted the government to axe or lower the age of consent. It offered support to adults "in legal difficulties concerning sexual acts with consenting 'under age' partners". The real aim was to normalise sex with children.
Journalist Christian Wolmar remembers their tactics. "They didn't emphasise that this was 50-year-old men wanting to have sex with five-year-olds. They presented it as the sexual liberation of children, that children should have the right to sex," he says.

Unbelievable, but some people would have minor attracted individuals within the whole LGBTQ+ alphabet soup

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 25/06/2026 09:30

Yes, always worth asking what's in the +.

Hedgehogforshort · 25/06/2026 09:54

ENGLANDalltheway · 25/06/2026 09:26

The Paedophile Information Exchange was affiliated to the National Council for Civil Liberties - now Liberty - in the late 1970s and early 1980s. But how did pro-paedophile campaigners operate so openly?
A gay rights conference backs a motion in favour of paedophilia. The story is written up by a national newspaper as "Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib".
It sounds like a nightmarish plotline from dystopian fiction. But this happened in the UK. The conference took place in Sheffield and the newspaper was the Guardian. The year was 1975.

...PIE was formed in 1974. It campaigned for "children's sexuality". It wanted the government to axe or lower the age of consent. It offered support to adults "in legal difficulties concerning sexual acts with consenting 'under age' partners". The real aim was to normalise sex with children.
Journalist Christian Wolmar remembers their tactics. "They didn't emphasise that this was 50-year-old men wanting to have sex with five-year-olds. They presented it as the sexual liberation of children, that children should have the right to sex," he says.

Unbelievable, but some people would have minor attracted individuals within the whole LGBTQ+ alphabet soup

I can remember that as an active leftist. And i was gob smacked then.

It was gay men i recall being fooled into believing it was about gay boys who were sexually mature (over 16).

oldtiredcyclist · 25/06/2026 11:21

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 25/06/2026 09:17

Exactly so. We must never, ever forget that back in the 1960s and 70s when all sorts of social changes were being pushed through, many of them making life better, there were other ideas under serious consideration that either did make life worse for many or came perilously close to it.

First example: 'free love' - sex outside marriage no longer regarded as shameful. A good thing on the whole, but it made a lot of men and boys feel even more entitled than they already did to sex from others who were not always willing or able to consent.

Second example: Paedophile Information Exchange being taken very seriously indeed by some progressive organisations run by people so open-minded their brains had fallen out. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378

The Paedophile Information Exchange was affiliated to the National Council for Civil Liberties - now Liberty - in the late 1970s and early 1980s. But how did pro-paedophile campaigners operate so openly?
A gay rights conference backs a motion in favour of paedophilia. The story is written up by a national newspaper as "Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib".
It sounds like a nightmarish plotline from dystopian fiction. But this happened in the UK. The conference took place in Sheffield and the newspaper was the Guardian. The year was 1975.

...PIE was formed in 1974. It campaigned for "children's sexuality". It wanted the government to axe or lower the age of consent. It offered support to adults "in legal difficulties concerning sexual acts with consenting 'under age' partners". The real aim was to normalise sex with children.
Journalist Christian Wolmar remembers their tactics. "They didn't emphasise that this was 50-year-old men wanting to have sex with five-year-olds. They presented it as the sexual liberation of children, that children should have the right to sex," he says.

That makes for very grim reading, 1975 was the year I first started work.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/06/2026 13:12

Liberty's senior management team all have their pronouns proudly displayed, but I can't help wondering how many of the "she/her" ones are in fact trans. Certainly at least one trans person has been their deputy chair.

viques · 25/06/2026 13:37

GailBlancheViola · 24/06/2026 21:01

Thanks for posting that. Excellent article.

If only more people, (male people particularly because for some reason a male voice is seen as the voice osprey reason and considered thought) had been writing articles like this over the last ten or fifteen years and using their articles to shoo the bolting horses back into the stable. Now we have to round the damn horses up again, and some of them have gone feral.

GailBlancheViola · 25/06/2026 13:54

Very true viques.

MyCrushWithEyeliner · 25/06/2026 15:33

Great news 🙌🏻

Why anyone would think biological men should be in women’s prisons boggles the mind.

Do they think women in prison don’t deserve to be safe from men? I really don’t get it.

knittin · 25/06/2026 15:55

Hope Burnham is taking note

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 25/06/2026 16:43

ENGLANDalltheway · 25/06/2026 09:26

The Paedophile Information Exchange was affiliated to the National Council for Civil Liberties - now Liberty - in the late 1970s and early 1980s. But how did pro-paedophile campaigners operate so openly?
A gay rights conference backs a motion in favour of paedophilia. The story is written up by a national newspaper as "Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib".
It sounds like a nightmarish plotline from dystopian fiction. But this happened in the UK. The conference took place in Sheffield and the newspaper was the Guardian. The year was 1975.

...PIE was formed in 1974. It campaigned for "children's sexuality". It wanted the government to axe or lower the age of consent. It offered support to adults "in legal difficulties concerning sexual acts with consenting 'under age' partners". The real aim was to normalise sex with children.
Journalist Christian Wolmar remembers their tactics. "They didn't emphasise that this was 50-year-old men wanting to have sex with five-year-olds. They presented it as the sexual liberation of children, that children should have the right to sex," he says.

Unbelievable, but some people would have minor attracted individuals within the whole LGBTQ+ alphabet soup

Is now a good time to remember who was General Secretary and Chairman of NCCL at the time of the affiliation of the Paedophile Information Exchange?

Patricia Hewitt, General Secretary, has since apologised for being ‘naive and wrong’.

Jack Dromey (Harriet Harman’s late husband) - member and Chair of the executive committee. Apparently he ‘vigorously opposed their presence’, although clearly not enough to prevent their affiliation and legitimising their campaign.

And while she didn’t have anything to do either the affiliation of PIE, Harriet Harperson decided to join an organisation that had a paedophile group affiliated with them.

ArabellaScott · 25/06/2026 20:12

Lorna Slater is unhappy.

'you now have the situation where transmen will be housed in the women's estate, which doesn't make any sense at all'

😶

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYxQG711r0E

SternJoyousBeev2 · 25/06/2026 20:15

ArabellaScott · 25/06/2026 20:12

Lorna Slater is unhappy.

'you now have the situation where transmen will be housed in the women's estate, which doesn't make any sense at all'

😶

She’s a fucking idiot.

ArabellaScott · 25/06/2026 20:16

She's in the spotlight, quite literally in that clip, and she looks like she's melting.

Waitwhat23 · 25/06/2026 20:22

ArabellaScott · 25/06/2026 20:16

She's in the spotlight, quite literally in that clip, and she looks like she's melting.

She is an absolute melt.

sohard · 25/06/2026 20:25

ArabellaScott · 25/06/2026 20:12

Lorna Slater is unhappy.

'you now have the situation where transmen will be housed in the women's estate, which doesn't make any sense at all'

😶

But most if not all transmen are already in the female estate?! God she’s such a stupid woman.

OP posts:
Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/06/2026 20:33

These people are so stupid it amazes me that they manage to leave their own houses.

Wishesandhorses · 25/06/2026 20:35

It's basic common knowledge that women almost never have been housed in the mens estate because the risk assessment wouldn't work! BASIC knowledge.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/06/2026 20:40

I know it is probably naive of me to ask, but have all the male offenders in fact been removed from the women's prisons yet? Does anyone know?

JulesJules · 25/06/2026 21:14

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/06/2026 20:40

I know it is probably naive of me to ask, but have all the male offenders in fact been removed from the women's prisons yet? Does anyone know?

Edited

I was going to ask this too. I would not put it past them to say they were going to do it, and then just...not

NorthernIrishFeminist · 26/06/2026 00:13

Cailin66 · 24/06/2026 09:20

What about down south in the 26. I don't think they can move the transexual males out of the Irish women's prisons because we don't have the Equality Law the UK has and our Gender Law seems to make transexual men actual women under the law. We don't seem to have the biological reality of the sexes basically.

The south is an even bigger shitshow for women’s rights and even the BK debacle doesn’t seem to have cut through to public awareness outside of the cities 😢

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2026 00:17

I remember the Limerick “feminists” and their #nodebate approach to BK.

SlowlyRainsInsideSusan · 26/06/2026 00:56

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.