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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rupert Lowe’s rape gang enquiry, report published

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Yddraigoldragon · 16/06/2026 20:50

The report has been published, link below.

http://bit.ly/4uE5odw

It is harrowing.

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Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 10:34

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Well said @ainsleysanob. The response of @CaesarAugusta says it all about what those poor girls raped and groomed for years by hundreds of Pakistani / British Pakistani men across the UK, were and are still, dealing with

CaesarAugusta · Today 08:47
Unfortunately it was utterly predictable before the report came out that it would focus on immigration issues. A report which ignores or downplays the existence of white rapists isn't really worth bothering with.

ainsleysanob · Today 10:25
You are an utter disgrace and I pray that you never come into contact with my friends in Rotherham who were raped by THOUSANDS of Pakistanis, anally, orally and vaginally. Beaten, tortured, trafficked. Their siblings and family members threatened. Because they were white. And then ignored, blamed, arrested and delivered back to their abusers by people just like you.

Wishing14 · 17/06/2026 10:35

When Sammy said that - instant rebuttal, “we have been talking about race all morning”…. No apologies, no discussion, deny, deflect…. Don’t listen to victims. Maybe there was no ‘evidence’ of it and now they listened to the call they realise she wasn’t lying! Makes my blood boil

Summerhillsquare · 17/06/2026 10:36

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 10:31

Can you show me where Lowe/ Restore have policies which harm women/girls?

These are private companies rather than democratic parties, so 'policies' are whatever the paid for leader and his funders say on any given day. But I believe their social media is public, you can see their attitudes to women there. And - shocker - brown and black people, who they want to deport, along with other settled citizens - are women too! They want to deport women and children.

RedTagAlan · 17/06/2026 10:36

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 10:18

There are an awful lot of claims being made in this report with no evidence presented. I mean beyond what the victims said.

Yes. Not being believed as a victim is a massive problem, wouldn't you say?

If you quote me, is it not polite to tag me ?

Except I did not say to not believe the victim did I. I said claims beyond what the victims said.

For example, page 107 has a list of other Muslim men convicted who are not of Pakistani origin. No references to any records or news reports. Just a footnote pointing to a US rightwing blogger for something he wrote in 2016.

For such a claim, it would be really easy to footnote evidence that the claim is true.

LalalaWoo · 17/06/2026 10:36

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 10:31

Can you show me where Lowe/ Restore have policies which harm women/girls?

I’m actually very interested in this as have heard a few people say it however in all of my research haven’t managed to find anything. I’m increasingly liking him so would like to educate myself if there is something I don’t know about.

TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul · 17/06/2026 10:36

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There's no denying it's a horrific state of affairs the care system,the police,social work failed these girls.
A crime is a crime regardless of where you're from or religion.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 17/06/2026 10:37

PollyNomial · 17/06/2026 09:50

Dismissing those victims because?

Every comment you have made has been to dismiss these victims.

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 10:40

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Onmytod24 · 17/06/2026 10:41

Emotive language! calling for the death penalty! this isn’t a report . just a load of rubbish

PollyNomial · 17/06/2026 10:42

Comeondoreen · 17/06/2026 10:25

Neither the Catholic Church or the Church of England, as I understand, encourage their followers to view the Bible or the actions of their prophet as totally and completely infallible, and immune from criticism.

This is not reliably true of Islam - I know, because I grew up Muslim. I also came to this country as a very young child fleeing persecution, so I know all about Islamophobia too (Perhaps it is also why I feel so strongly about your country which my family found to be a safe haven with a uniquely generous and tolerant culture that I will forever be grateful for). Dismissing the acknowledgment these issues within Islam as Islamophobia is so foolish. It also does huge disservice to the Muslim girls and women who suffer under Islam - perhaps it is more politically “correct” to care about us than it is white working class girls?

Besides, the link between the christian institutions and their roles in child abuse is widely acknowledged and spoken about. As it should be!

RE your other comment, if you won’t read this report then what other sources do you suggest we look at for the experiences of these victims? Which ones have you read? Which of the victims who speaks out publicly do you follow or support? Genuine question.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

For example, the Pope speaks the word of God and the Bible (any translation) is unequivocal about following Jesus and his teachings, so I'm not sure it's that different in the grand scheme of things.

What I am looking for in a report on any failure such as this is:
A recognition of what happened to the victims (I think the report is successful here)
An examination, agency by agency, of what went wrong and why from the perspectives of victims and those working within them and what may prevent the failings from being repeated (largely absent)
A set of recommendations that distils all the evidence (those offered may be flawed and incomplete because the second part is lacking)

Lastly, to deliver successful lasting change and prevent as many future victims as possible, a cross party or politically independent panel/authorship is best. This report doesn't have that and, even within his own part of the political spectrum, RL is divisive as the repeated spats between himself and Reform demonstrate.

TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul · 17/06/2026 10:42

Onmytod24 · 17/06/2026 10:41

Emotive language! calling for the death penalty! this isn’t a report . just a load of rubbish

The death penalty is a non starter for a good reason.

jacksonlamb · 17/06/2026 10:43

This is horrific. Thank you for sharing. Have the national media picked up on this at all?

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 10:43

Summerhillsquare · 17/06/2026 10:36

These are private companies rather than democratic parties, so 'policies' are whatever the paid for leader and his funders say on any given day. But I believe their social media is public, you can see their attitudes to women there. And - shocker - brown and black people, who they want to deport, along with other settled citizens - are women too! They want to deport women and children.

Restore is a registered political party.
I have read the social media- also the website- I cannot see anything on there which alarms me as a white English woman.

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 10:43

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 09:56

And how do Muslim men view Muslim girls? Not fair game because they're wearing black clothes that cover any skin / hair which would encourage them to be raped by helpless men?

@PollyNomial Did you answer this question? I can't find it.

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 10:44

Onmytod24 · 17/06/2026 10:41

Emotive language! calling for the death penalty! this isn’t a report . just a load of rubbish

Are you saying the testimonies of the sexual abuse rape victims is 'a load of rubbish'?

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 10:45

Onmytod24 · 17/06/2026 10:41

Emotive language! calling for the death penalty! this isn’t a report . just a load of rubbish

Doesn’t it have victims quotes in it? Is that included as a load of rubbish?

JuliaBraverman · 17/06/2026 10:47

Onmytod24 · 17/06/2026 10:41

Emotive language! calling for the death penalty! this isn’t a report . just a load of rubbish

Wow

TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul · 17/06/2026 10:47

mrshoho · 17/06/2026 10:30

What do you mean by ammunition? Telling people the truth about how victims are continuing to be silenced? How we are still expected not to speak of the muslim Pakistani men who commit such disgusting child abuse?

Nothing should be covered up but the GMB situation is another opportunity for the extreme far right to exploit for their own ends.

Onmytod24 · 17/06/2026 10:48

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 10:44

Are you saying the testimonies of the sexual abuse rape victims is 'a load of rubbish'?

If actual testimonies are used of course that’s not rubbish it’s the conclusions the emotive language everything about the report that means it’s not a report. It’s just a mad diatribe against a group in society absolutely bonkers anyone reading it and thinking it sticking up for women pathetic.

Pastelpug · 17/06/2026 10:49

Why has he done it ,where did he get the money from.
Is this an official report
How did he manage to get access to the sensitive information

Onmytod24 · 17/06/2026 10:49

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 10:45

Doesn’t it have victims quotes in it? Is that included as a load of rubbish?

I wonder if the victims have given permission for their report to be misused in such a way. More abuse.

TeaAndStrumpets · 17/06/2026 10:49

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 10:33

Yes why would anyone underplay what the victims said.

Votes.

NellieJean · 17/06/2026 10:50

FernFaery · 16/06/2026 21:34

You don’t think he just passionately believes in what he says?

Not for a minute.

RedTagAlan · 17/06/2026 10:50

Onmytod24 · 17/06/2026 10:41

Emotive language! calling for the death penalty! this isn’t a report . just a load of rubbish

Yes. If anything, it is practically a disservice to victims. Done in their name but really about far right politics.

ThatCyanCat · 17/06/2026 10:50

It seems that so far only three MPs - Lowe, a Tory and a independent - have signed the motion to note the report.

https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/66091/independent-rape-gang-inquiry-report