My response to cross dressing

[manpretty]

I have seen on here some resentful remarks about crossdressing, not just from males as I would expect, but from females as well. To be fair men have had to accept women cross dressing for decades now and that is supposed to be totally OK seeing women living in jeans, leggings, shorts, sports trousers, joggers etc. Personally I grew up seeing women wearing skirts and dresses when they went out shopping, to a pub restaurant or cafe and just in ordinary everyday life. They looked great then and I always loved those clothes which is why I now prefer to dress in skirts and dresses myself. I love feeling the flowing materials (nothing sexual) and wearing the very kind of clothes that I wish today`s women would wear themselves. Give me a chiffon skirt or dress and a lovely lacey petticoat (waist slip or full slip) and I feel totally happy and more natural than ever.

Call a frock a cassock and it miraculously stops identifiying as a dress.

Adam Graham.

Stephen Graham is the actor. As is Adam Graham but you get my drift.

You know, I think I might have met OP. Years and years ago, on a bus, in East London. He came stomping up the stairs and proceeded to berate all the women wearing jeans or trousers for not womanning properly. Fortunately I was sitting right at the front (best seat on a double decker) so although he could probably see my shoulders shaking with laughter, he couldn't get in front of me for a proper telling off.

Either that or there's more than one of them 🤔

Of course, since then I have taken care to dress more appropriately. Even though it gets in the way when I'm in the lab.

Chiffon is gross, manmade and sweaty and lacy petticoats belong to the 1950s.

Is OP Emily Howard?

Careful, your knees are showing! 😱

Eek! Sorry, I'll add some more petticoats.

I think it can be accepted as an indisputable, universal truth that Clonakilty ‘everything’ is lovely.

Edited to add: Oh my gosh, I’m so sorry Marie. Just saw the bit where you said you are a vegetarian. I saw the word Clonakilty and rushed to comment. Didn’t mean to be tone deaf.

I might try the vegetarian white pudding now though.

I've been veggie since 1984 and at the time the only thing available to buy ready made was cheese and onion pasties from Tesco.

I love love love a hearty veggie sausage. I never liked fish so can't go near anything that resembles that but jumped for joy when I went into a super u near me 3 years ago and found they sold Richmonds veggie sausages. I bought many packets of them. I don't eat meat because the thought makes me wretch.

I knew the lady whose husband discovered Quorn. He got nothing for it. In fact she had to work Saturdays in Tesco's to make ends meet.

Well I think this is a crying shame. If only modern man dressed in the aforementioned outfits whilst going about their manly duties, I would be so much more inclined to go to the supermarket for more curry.

In many ways, it comes down to the cut of the pattern.

A 'skirt' such as a utility kilt, a toga, or a flamboyant Louis XIV-style outfit is cut for a man and the male figure.

If a bloke just likes the feel of silk, for example, why not have a silk skirt that is cut for the male figure?

Oops, sincere apologies to Stephen Graham.

ADAM Graham of course.

@CassOle
absolutely. We do need clothing cut for various body shapes.

Plus, trousers cut for the female figure are women's clothes, and a woman who wears them is not 'cross-dressing' despite the regressive ideas asserted by the OP.

When I’m cross I don’t tend to think about how I’m dressing

I liked this 1945 postcard from the Netherlands that https://x.com/fakehistoryhunt
posted on X recently.

A woman in trousers and a man in a skirt enjoying summer in peacetime.

If anyone is ever in the Clonakilty area, I feel it's my mission in life to tell you that the SuperValu there is the best supermarket you'll ever set foot in.

Obviously it has all the Clonakilty produce but so, so, so much more.

Am I right in thinking that @manpretty‘s rather bitter comment about ‘women cross dressing for years’, added to his paean of praise for how skirts and petticoats make him feel mean that he thinks HE must be allowed - nay celebrated for wearing skirts and frills, but women are most certainly NOT allowed to wear whatever they want? That’s how he comes across to me, anyway.

Wear whatever you want, @manpretty, but do try to lose the stupid, outdated, misogynistic guff about men’s and women’s clothing - oh, and stay out of the Ladies loos.

manpretty needs a crash course in feminism to answer maybe some of his questions.

For the record there's already men wearing skirts just as men. Their business as long as they maintain modesty and stay in mens spaces. There have always been different views to men pushing social norms compared to women, even more suspicion. You could wonder why.

There's men wearing skirts, flouncy embroidered tops, hats with tassels, stockings, shoes with pom poms and looking pretty damn hot while doing it

Where's his other hand?

Do you think they think so? Or are they thinking, "FFS do I have to wear this again? What's wrong with combat fatigues?"

Maybe he lost it doing some war/fighting thing, y'know, while wearing the combat fatigue things?

TheKeatingFive I’m now craving some proper (Clonakilty) black and white pudding, it seems to be almost impossible to find on the mainland these days.