Should breast implants for males be made illegal?

[happydappy2]

Having learned more about the sexual desires of males, AGP in particular. I now think that as women we have to push back and stop this madness. We live in a world where females are vulnerable to sexual assault by males-we are literally hunted by them. Combined with the safeguarding of children aspect....all parents I know explain to young children that if you get lost, look for a lady to help you, preferably another Mummy....I know men can wear a padded bra to achieve the look, but still the thought of males getting sexual pleasure by having fake boobs & their male tackle-just seems wrong. Am I alone in thinking this? Looking at society as a whole, I can't see any benefit to women and children of men being allowed to get silicone breast implants.....

Same. Please don’t do it to mine either. It’s disrespectful and triggering. Thank you.

How have I been disrespectful?

'Women unfree will never be at peace.'

So true.

i actually find it so difficult that I’m effectively gagged on here. I mean I get that it’s upsetting for others but it means I can’t explain why it matters so much to me

That you cannot tell us the full horror doesn't mean we are unable to care about you, and genuinely wish you as well as is possible for you (as opposed to mouthing a platitude as if that somehow made everything all right, us right and you wrong).

Because I do. Genuinely. And the platitude-spouters can go piss up a pole, to use my mother's highly inelegant phrase for her feelings about that sort of person.

I believe I have written two posts explaining how, yet you refused to engage and wished me peace.

If you have no wish to know what I and others think, that is your own decision. If you wish to answer my question about just how consistent you believed the post that I highlighted was to your understanding of respect, by all means please explain. I asked with the genuine intention of understanding how you believed how the post was inline with your beliefs about respecting other's opinions. Because I fail to see the post I referred to in that way.

And again, please do not wish me peace, it is incredibly uncomfortable and it is not appropriate in light of your posts on this thread.

But that’s the point exactly. You get it.

i wish you peace is offensive as fuck. Because I’m wrong think and I’m not worthy of respect. I even had a trans woman here tell me that they dint require my consent. Add that to the trauma trumps accusations etc and it’s clear to me there’s no respect for my experiences from some people.

Choosing not to respond isn’t disrespectful. It’s my choice whether I respond to demands and I am choosing not to as this thread is not a space for meaningful discussion as your posts highlight. All the best

You really can’t help yourself can you.

I prefer 'all the best' to 'Peace', I appreciate that change of greeting.
We obviously have different definitions of 'meaningful discussions' but that happens sometimes.
All the best to you too.

Reread your posts on this thread.

You will see that you’ve said that other posters who’ve asked questions regarding your stated opinions aren’t open to meaningful discussion, which read as evasive, rude and disrespectful.

You will see that you’ve told a poster who disclosed her distressing experiences of male violence that you’d had the same experience then told her you wished her peace, which came across as dismissive, insincere and offensive.

Lying by saying you wish people peace or happiness when it’s obviously untrue is disrespectful.

And please stop with the 'All the best'.

I was not referring either to your choosing not to respond. I actually asked specifically about a post.

Great that you choose not respond. However, as I pointed out, your post seemed to be directly contradictory and was in fact disrespectful while you were telling everyone how respectful you were.

You are now continuing with wishing me sentiments that I have expressing indicated were making me uncomfortable.

You are now also continuing to categorise this thread as not a meaningful discussion while refusing to engage in meaningful discussion. ie. I think that you don't actually understand just how contradictory and hypocritical your posts are all the while you fully believe that you are 'respectful.

It's darkly ironic that Kate is wishing @Taztoypeace, because dismantling single sex provision (as Kate advocates doing) destroys the peace of women like Taztoy who need these spaces.

I don't know whether Kate just hasn't thought that through or whether Kate thinks its acceptable collateral damage to destroy some women's peace to pander to men.

However, what is more clear is that Kate thinks that being a good person is about signalling the 'right' mantras rather than actually doing the hard yards to understand what's important to maintain women's safety and dignity in society.

It’s not untrue - I do wish that. If you choose to think its untrue that’s up to you.

Refusing to engage when people are not engaging respectfully or demanding I explain myself is within my rights. If people think that’s disrespectful to choose not to engage when people are acting in a way that does not allow for meaningful conversation then that’s up to them.

Also i am a survivor. I have been told on this thread more than once I want women to be raped. It’s disgusting.

No one said you wanted women to be raped. Stop with the hyperbole. The logical conclusion of your argument is the dismantling of protection for women that stand on consent

Continuing to twist and goad and provoke. Deeply unsettling.

Also. I was treated so severely that it only was it rapeS (multiple) it was also attempted murder.

I would never treat anyone the way you have me.

Yes, you are.

Yes they did. It wasn’t inference. They said I wanted women to be raped.

Women are at risk for men im women’s single sex spaces.

I have trauma such that I don’t want a male hcp, I don’t want to be in a counselling session with a mn, I don’t want a man in a changing room where I am.

trans women are men. Legally. And it’s relatively easy to spot almost all of them in rl. It’s a combination of body shape , stance, gait, hands, facial shape, voice as well as presentation. Seeing a man in a SSS sends me into a complete meltdown. If I ask for a female hcp I want a female hcp. I don’t want to be lied to and gaslight

trans individuals should campaign for a fourth space.

And now we have reached the Reverse action.

I have been told on this thread more than once I want women to be raped. It’s disgusting.

I’m sorry I’ve missed that and cannot find anything like it when I look back. Please can you quote the post(s) where someone tells you that you ‘want women to be raped’?

I have just looked too and realised It was on another thread about Pride flags on the Waitrose app. The OP requested the thread to be deleted. So apologies - it was another thread not this one. Deeply upsetting all the same.

edit: correcting typos

I was about to say I’d looked back and hadn’t remembered such a comment on this thread either.

Yes it was on another one. But so deeply upsetting and triggering.