M&S Colchester claim mixed changing is ‘completely safe’ for women.

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How is it that M&S can continue to flaunt the high court ruling and do not offer single sex changing rooms?

Abouterf in this video confronts the store manager and is fobbed off and told that it’s head offices policy:

Colchester @marksandspencer I asked where the women’s changing room was to try on swimwear. Manager Andrew (he/ his /him) says gender neutral changing areas are “completely safe” for women and girls. For asking him this question, he told me to leave the store.

Abouterf x account

Christ almighty, get a grip

No, people here are misinformed and riddled with confirmation bias to the point they don't even bother checking anything they're told online.

Do you have evidence that it's bollocks?

Yes

That's to do with the legalities - not whether they actually do that or not

He was arrogant, dismissive and actually, a very bad business person.

Why would anyone want a customer to leave without buying?

There are a million and one ways he could have handled it.

Instead, he immediately made her a "Karen" and treated her as such.

Well done her.

Once again, check out XNXX or VoyeurHit or xHamster or XVideos or TNAFlix or any other of the myriad of internet sites that offer videos, taken with hidden cameras, of women and girls undressing in mixed sex changing rooms and using mixed sex toilets.

Look, I understand you desperately want to feel wronged somehow, but at some stage, transphobes are going to have to realise that you're gullible bullies, who believe anything you're told. Google takes two minutes.

So pointing you at the evidence that mixed sex changing rooms are regularly targetted by male perverts makes us some how culpable? What the f is wrong with you?

Neither I nor anyone else would be able to find this stuff if it didn't exist.

How do you think it comes into existence?

By perverts installing hidden cameras in places where women and girls are in a state of undress, downloading the video material for their own pleasure and then offering it to other perverts for viewing and downloading.

And the easiest places to instal hidden cameras are those used by both sexes, that is, mixed sex changing rooms and toilets.

We are not the perverts. The men with the cameras are the perverts.

If they operate mixed sex changing rooms, would they stop a man wanting to try on a pair of trousers entering the changing room in the bra department?

If they dont, I think we should be made aware, however humiliating that is for the company and their colleagues.

If they do stop him, why?

To be fair, I have seen plenty of pics of M&S changing rooms labelled 'men'

This may surprise you - but people lie on the Internet!

As if m&s would be stupid enough to provide men's changing and not women's. Use your brain? Transphobes went absolutely bat shit that a trans person had the audacity to have a job in m&s. Do you really believe if what you're claiming is true, there wouldn't be absolute outrage?

But why would men need single sex facilities then if it’s all fine? It’s the inconsistency that’s perplexing.

I think its perfectly possible that they would do that - yes.

They wouldn't be the only ones either.

This may surprise you - but people lie on the Internet

To be fair, some people minimise to likelihood of voyeurism and indecent exposure.

Explain to me like I'm five - what do you claim links to pornography are evidence of exactly?

Do you have any actual, reliable data that shows unisex changing is regularly targeted by men? We both know the answer to that is no. Because you are fighting a boogeyman.

Strange how many transphobes support Trump, an actual abuser, yet claim to want to protect from assault.

That letter from M&S is so disingenuous and vague - "most", "the vast majority", "usually". They need to be clear, open and 100 per cent consistent.

I'm sorry, has voyeurism and indecent exposure only just become illegal and a concern? Or am I missing something? Who's minimising it?

No they don't.
Your entitlement doesn't change that.

There are a million ways she could have complained about his attitude or behaviour publicly humiliating him is not on end of!

Then you're radicalised and probably need a break from the Internet.

You. In your deleted rant.

Safeguarding should be an entitlement, and I can't think of a single reason why a company shouldn't have an obligation to be clear, open and consistent in its policy.