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Afghanistan - selling children - guess which ones?

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ArabellaScott · 19/05/2026 08:30

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0q25dwj807o

Nobody would deny poverty is a huge problem in Afghanistan:

'The US – once the top donor to Afghanistan – cut nearly all aid to the country last year. Many other key donors have also significantly reduced contributions, including the UK. Current UN figures show that the aid received so far this year is 70% lower than in 2025.
Severe drought – which has affected more than half the provinces in the country - is compounding problems.'

The BBC presents this as 'an impossible choice' made by 'Afghan fathers'.

Why is it just the fathers making this choice, BBC?

Why is it just daughters sold, BBC?

A man wearing a pink turban cuddles his small daughter close in front of a cracked mud wall

Afghanistan humanitarian crisis: Ghor's starving families

In Afghanistan today, a staggering three in four people cannot meet their basic needs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0q25dwj807o

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selffellatingouroborosofhate · 24/05/2026 23:58

AmberTigerEyes · 24/05/2026 21:22

You didn’t mention incompetence earlier you said
It strikes me that, far from the famine being artificially induced by Trump, it has been caused by the Taliban mismanaging the country. Trump has stopped compensating for the Taliban's mismanagement of their own country.

You presented it as a good thing that Trump had caused famine.
I asked a question. What is wrong? Are you the only person who can ask questions?

You even replied to my question with
I'm genuinely not sure whether sending aid will just end up making the Taliban stronger.

So don’t pretend you weren’t implying Trump’s famine creation is really a good thing to weaken the Taliban.

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You presented it as a good thing that Trump had caused famine.

No, I presented the famine as not being Trump's fault. He didn't make the crops fail and he didn't mismanage Afghanistan. Trump hasn't caused the reasons for Afghanistan to need aid.ne of him not being to blame makes it OK for him to stop aid. Sometimes, things aren't a given entity's fault but they are that entity's responsibility to resolve.

I'm annoyed because people don't read what I actually write and often themselves don't write what they mean. This makes it hard both to understand and be understood. I'm autistic so I really struggle with subtexts.

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 25/05/2026 00:28

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 24/05/2026 23:58

You presented it as a good thing that Trump had caused famine.

No, I presented the famine as not being Trump's fault. He didn't make the crops fail and he didn't mismanage Afghanistan. Trump hasn't caused the reasons for Afghanistan to need aid.ne of him not being to blame makes it OK for him to stop aid. Sometimes, things aren't a given entity's fault but they are that entity's responsibility to resolve.

I'm annoyed because people don't read what I actually write and often themselves don't write what they mean. This makes it hard both to understand and be understood. I'm autistic so I really struggle with subtexts.

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I'm autistic and I think you're being obtuse.

bafta16 · 25/05/2026 20:51

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 24/05/2026 21:01

Nope. Refusing to let men off the hook for fleeing the country whilst leaving their sisters behind. Refusing to pretend that these men care two hoots for their sisters.

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What a lot of nonsense. "these men" All of them? Every single male from that country? Every single one who tries to get out?

WittyLimeBiscuit · 26/05/2026 07:16

I see the BBC has now aired an excellent piece on girls being denied an education. I can't help but wonder if the outcry around the poor men framing of girls being sold for rape was a factor

Wouldcou · 26/05/2026 12:48

Look at the British teenagers who got off lightly for gang raping on two separate occasions. One was at knife point. The judge praised the rapists for their good behaviour?!
This is a world wide male problem

Jane379 · 17/06/2026 22:03

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 21/05/2026 21:58

It's irrelevant that it's the fault of the men.

Telling married couples not to have sex doesn't work.

And say if it did, what would the parents then do in old age, especially the women who are likely to be widowed, without sons?

The way things are now in Afghanistan, not having children isn't an option. The girls are expendable and the boys are needed by their families.

Short of overthrowing the Taliban (which we've already done once, only for them to be let straight back in a few years on) and completely restructuring Afghan society, there isn't a good solution to how to stop this happening.

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This, people are overlooking that the situation recently became very bad.

Jane379 · 17/06/2026 22:06

WittyLimeBiscuit · 26/05/2026 07:16

I see the BBC has now aired an excellent piece on girls being denied an education. I can't help but wonder if the outcry around the poor men framing of girls being sold for rape was a factor

To be fair, they have reported on girls being denied education before.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct5j1t

BBC World Service - The Documentary, Inside Afghanistan's secret schools

Sana Safi finds out how teenage girls are getting around the Taliban ban on education

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct5j1t

Jane379 · 17/06/2026 22:07

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 23/05/2026 10:19

In no way is this morally ok. It depresses wages leading to children going hungry in THIS country. It's not like we have no problems. Men doing this should be deported.

And as PP have said they have to pay a lot of money to get here so it's unlikely they're doing this for altruistic reasons. If they cared about their female relatives they'd stay and protect them from the horrific human rights abuses these women face - particularly if no male relatives to protect them - or at least try and bring them with them. The men coming here alone give no shits about their female relatives. Given the lack of medical care for women, there is a strong chance their female relatives will die between them leaving and arriving in the UK.

Young, fit male Afghan refugees who come alone are abandoning their female relatives to the whims of the Taliban, to live without medical care and often no-one to advocate for them. I would argue having a male relative willing to protect you in situ is probably worth more than theoretical foreign cash (that will probably be intercepted by men of one kind or another).

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Probably a lot of these families are large, so I suspect often there are brothers as well as fathers left behind to advocate.

Jane379 · 17/06/2026 22:10

AmberTigerEyes · 24/05/2026 21:16

@selffellatingouroborosofhate
I'm also very much of the view that no one is obliged to send aid to a country in trouble.

You don’t feel obliged to help stop entire families starving.

You’d rather virtue signal and blame the fathers of the starving families for a situation beyond their control, what was it you said? Oh yes we can and absolutely should lay the blame at the feet of the very men [the fathers] who claim to be so heartbroken. and Men can choose not to father children in an environment where they will have to sell their daughters to survive.

Tell me how does a poor Afghan goat herder in 2016 predict that a famine will be manufactured by a future US president from half a world away 10 years after he impregnates his wife with a girl? Would he even have been able to predict in 2016 that the Taliban would take over in 2021 when his daughter is 4?

You know since you’re literally blaming fathers who had sex that produced girls born before the Taliban took over and the US and UK literally abandoned the Afghan people in 2021 and the famine that has gripped them this year in 2026?

This. How could the fathers have predicted the famine?

ImImmortalNowBabyDoll · 18/06/2026 00:07

Jane379 · 17/06/2026 22:10

This. How could the fathers have predicted the famine?

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Can't you tell, the evil men are clearly living a life of riley whilst the women suffer, and just can't wait to start selling their daughters off. (That's sarcasm, btw, as satire is almost indistinguishable from actual discourse now.)

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 18/06/2026 22:45

If any of these men had a shred of decency, they'd be trying to get their wives and daughters out, like the Ukranians did when Putin kicked off.

bafta16 · Yesterday 19:53

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 18/06/2026 22:45

If any of these men had a shred of decency, they'd be trying to get their wives and daughters out, like the Ukranians did when Putin kicked off.

What you mean like the scheme whereby ( largely) white middle class people with spare bedrooms took in other white people and were paid for doing it?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · Yesterday 21:39

bafta16 · Yesterday 19:53

What you mean like the scheme whereby ( largely) white middle class people with spare bedrooms took in other white people and were paid for doing it?

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We should have a Homes For Afghan Women And Children scheme.

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