Burnham - does he know what a woman is?

[Dragonasaurus]

Just that really - we’ve had Starmer prevaricating, fence sitting, “most women don’t have a penis” in fact women don’t have a penis’ but somehow I’m going to let Phillipson sit on the guidance which would ensure women’s single sex spaces (some of them anyway)…..

Would Burnham be any better? Does anyone know what his position is?

That would be great. And send it to Wes.

Speaking at a meeting in 2022, the Greater Manchester mayor said he did not want to see “culture wars” between trans activists and “people supposedly advocating for women’s rights”.

That 'supposedly' is all we need to know. He either hates women or considers them less human than men. Game over for me, I'm afraid.

Duncan Bannatyne on X

"Last week I decided to throw my support behind @AndyBurnhamGM for leadership of the Labour Party and on to PM.
But I cannot do that now that I find out he says Transwomen. IE men. Should be allowed to use the ladies toilets. I can never support anyone that does this.
Biological Women must have single sex spaces"

https://x.com/i/status/2057028528776900865

I'm glad to see this getting some traction. It makes it a bit harder for Andy Burnham to dismiss this as a "minority of opinions" or a culture war 🙄

My view is that Andy Burnham is a weathervane politician. We'll see how long he continues to call himself an "ally" once it's no longer politically expedient for him to do so.

Err I really don't work for him. I work for a charity. I have done so work with his team (after years of battling with MCC and other LAs). i'm really impressed with the way that GMCA is looking overhauling public services. It's currently pretty shit everywhere, but they are trying a new approach that if properly implemented would be a real game changer.
Im.in a network.with lots of charities and community groups and lots of us, like the work he is doing. And the time and recognition we have been given, which has never happened previously.
We actually feel listened for the first time in my nearly 15 years in thia field.

Put it this way, under a Burnham premiership, Phillipson takes even longer to sort govt advice re the SC ruling, he takes even longer to sort the grooming gangs inquiry...but taxes go up as fast as you can say "peak taxation".

Sadly, for many of us, the opinions of the third sector don't hold the weight that they used to, since so many of the people who work for them seem to be captured by the men's rights movement. Truly nothing personal @TallSturdyGirl . You may be a sane exception.

Ah hahaha a :D

Burnham, in this regard at least, reminds me of Alistair Campbell who gets all his info on trans matters from his wife & daughter. I suspect Burnham lives inside a similar reality-denying bubble.

He needs to get out more.

We are 'supposed feminists' apparently

I suspect most of them know full well what a woman is, they just don’t want to get pelters from trans activists.

Our organisation is in absolutely no way related to any trans anything. In fact, it might bit of the sector I can't think of a single time Ive been asked to use pronouns or its ever come up.
We do a lot around reducing violence against women, and poverty alleviation and cant say its our front thought as there are far more pressing factors

Oh dear. "far more pressing factors"
they can all be factors

Having watched the Burnham video, in the interests of balance I watched the other videos for candidates announced so far.

The Reform one is good. Lewis Goodall on X was surprised at how slick it was - I think lots of people expect a Farage party to have the kind of shonky amateurism of Ukip circa 2014, and don't realise that they've really upped their game. It was effective at putting across their candidate as a normal working class guy who loves his community and wants to represent it. Realistically that's the only counter to Burnham.

Speaking of shonky amateurism...

O lord, I feel sorry for the Restore lady. There's nothing wrong with not being a natural communicator - most people aren't - but I'm going to assume she got to be the candidate because she owns a couple of equine businesses and Rupert Lowe probably knows her from his horseracing interests. It didn't help that, while she was stumbling through her interview, the young Restore lad interviewing her very obviously wasn't listening to a single word she said, because he was preoccupied with staring at her tits.

Epic cringe, as the kids say.

But how can anyone in Manchester help women when the cross sector GM programme fir women & girls explicitly includes men?

www.gm4women2028.org/post/equality-for-women

"The Panel will be inclusive of all women and girls applying, including (but not limited to):

trans women, non-binary people and gender fluid people who identify as a woman or girl"

Is that legal?

Probably no, not as written.

More precisely: it is legally vulnerable and likely unlawful if this is a public-authority “women and girls” equality panel under the Equality Act / PSED and it defines women and girls by self-identification rather than biological sex.

A public body can consult trans women, non-binary and gender-fluid people.

But it should not define a women and girls panel as including males who “identify as a woman or girl” as though they are part of the female sex class.

So the clean answer is:

No, not safely legal as written.

(ChatGPTd)

We do a lot around reducing violence against women, and poverty alleviation and cant say its our front thought as there are far more pressing factors

Have you seen the thread about the mentally unwell young woman who was admitted to a male mental health ward because she identifies as a man? The men realised she was a woman, of course, and raped her within the hour.

But there are 'far more pressing matters', right?

Another NHS Trust perverts the course of justice in relation to a rape case. | Mumsnet https://share.google/a7QwTy8bk5sBRY5x1

Yes, indeedy. Maybe don't sit a really tall male "interviewer" so close to effectively loom over her, looking down at her.
All very "Carry On Electioneering!"