Burnham - does he know what a woman is?

[Dragonasaurus]

Just that really - we’ve had Starmer prevaricating, fence sitting, “most women don’t have a penis” in fact women don’t have a penis’ but somehow I’m going to let Phillipson sit on the guidance which would ensure women’s single sex spaces (some of them anyway)…..

Would Burnham be any better? Does anyone know what his position is?

Neither Starmer, or Burnham and his supporters, want a general election. Should a general election be forced it wouldn't be until next year at the earliest, I suspect.

Sorry, someone said - 9 July.

Then we've got the issue of child gender transition to deal with too

And the government has just announced that they will proceed with the puberty blocker trial, despite the judicial review looming.

But will the next government??

@MsGreying

He's a cock

Yes but is he a man's cock or a woman's cock, that's the question.

He is actually a weather cock. Turns to wherever the wind is blowing.

I think there are legitimate questions to be asked of most Northern Labour politicians, not just Burnham, regarding the activities of the multiple rape gangs operating under Labour Councils.

Absolutely @moto748e

Very good. So a more organised Johnson? Lord help us.

Irrespective of where he sits in relation to gender ideology, I’m coming around to realising our deluded labour MPs see Burnham as their saviour, that we will be saddled with yet another fucking PM we never voted for, that the confusion that comes from a new cabinet and new chancellor will spook the markets, that some new crisis will hit the UK and we’ll be straight back on this merry go round just as Starmer was finally settling into the role. Who the hell does Heidi Alender think she is to advise Starmer to step down. Bloody arrogant the lot of them.

A new change. Give me a break.

-weather

I think a Labour government will proceed with it whoever is the leader. for the reason it has medical backing and was mandated by Hillary Cass.

Only in those constituencies which have large, long established muslim communities ( which is mainly the old mill towns).

It's that "Hopey - changey" thing ( Sarah Palin)

It's all vibes based. He's good at vibes, but it's still vibes.

> Burnham arrives at Westminster
> The Cabinet stages a coup
> Starmer accepts reality and leaves
> Burnham becomes PM and addresses the nation with his message of hope and change

BURNHAM: Voters of Britain, I am here to answer the questions facing our society at this time of crisis. And those questions are: Do you like cheese? Do you like peas? Then you are going to love Labour's brand new Cheesy Peas, soon to be rolled out to a breakfast club at your local school.

🤣

Cheesy Peas really has that 90s vibe Burnham would love to trade on ("Brilliant!").
But he's no Blair.
And Cheesy Peas sound really shit.

Anyone remember Ermintrude, from 'The Magic Roundabout'?

Ugh. I'm no fan of Starmer but I have a sense of foreboding and irritation at Burnham and his acolytes and their sense of entitlement. It feels very much like BoJo 2.0. I don't want the spectacle of a leadership campaign but I think it is necessary and appropriate.

I seriously don't understand what it is that his Left wing backers ( Socialist Campaign Group) are expecting or seeing in him? All of my local MPs were out campaigning for him in Makerfield...as if he was the answer to their prayers.

Maybe it as simple as them thinking he wil prioritise the neglected and ignored northern communities?

He's already said he'd keep Shabana Mahmood in the Home Office......they'll hate that.

I bought a copy of The New Statesman the other day...haven't seen a copy for decades. Unbelievably naive. Still dreaming of the revolution.

Maybe it as simple as them thinking he wil prioritise the neglected and ignored northern communities?

The last Northerner to be PM was Harold Wilson. Gordon Brown apart they have all been Southerners with most of them posh public school males.

The key figures in Andy Burnham's inner circle - BBC News

I can't see it as anything other than short sighted self preservation from the PLP. Starmer is unpopular, let's swap him for someone who is popular. Without any consideration for whether Burnham would remain popular once in Westminster. The danger of putting someone whose main selling point is popularity is what they will do to remain popular because they have nothing else to fall back on. See also Boris.

Christ. God help us all.

Excellent point. Burnham might do better media than Starmer in general but how will he cope with the extreme focus on anything he does that people disapprove of? I’m not convinced he’s going to find it all that easy to weather the storms.