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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Starmer appoint Harman as his advisor on women and girls

218 replies

Theeyeballsinthesky · 09/05/2026 10:49

Kier Starmer has apparently appointed Harriet Harman as his advisor on women and girls

https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2053034283003007255?s=46

he really really still doesn't get it does he?

Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) on X

🚨 NEW: Keir Starmer has appointed Harriet Harman as the PM’s adviser on Women and Girls as part of No 10’s shakeup after the local elections

https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2053034283003007255?s=46

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Wearenotborg · 09/05/2026 10:51

thats like appointing Jimmy Saville as minister for children! What the hell is he thinking??

Freda69 · 09/05/2026 10:52

Harriet TWAW Harman and one time PIE supporter.
I honestly can’t decide whether to spit or cry.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 09/05/2026 10:55

I mean he's not a stupid man - is he really this out of touch?? It's not just her TWAW why can't you just be kind stuff but it's her association with PIE. It is of course being brought up immediately and after the issue with grooming gangs, does he really think ppl won't jump all over that?

Christ there are lots of women he could have chosen instead, why this one??

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 09/05/2026 10:57

Good grief.

The man is barking.

Dozer · 09/05/2026 10:58

WTF

FarriersGirl · 09/05/2026 11:00

Proof [as if it was needed] that KS really has no idea what he is doing....

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 09/05/2026 11:01

Shocking decision. Harman is a danger to women and girls :
https://x.com/HarrietHarman/status/1912437893433278601?lang=en

"The Supreme Court ruling correctly interprets the Equality Act, giving effect to our intention when drafting it. Single sex spaces for women are important & can exclude trans women but only where necessary. The Act, & ruling, protects rights of women while also respecting the rights of trans women."

Harriet Harman (@HarrietHarman) on X

The Supreme Court ruling correctly interprets the Equality Act, giving effect to our intention when drafting it. Single sex spaces for women are important & can exclude trans women but only where necessary. The Act, & ruling, protects rights...

https://x.com/HarrietHarman/status/1912437893433278601?lang=en

LizzieSiddal · 09/05/2026 11:05

FFS.

He really is dense isn’t he and I say that as a Labour member. I hope this appointment which is utterly abhorrent, means he is forced to resign sooner rather than later.

DialSquare · 09/05/2026 11:07

Well he obviously doesn’t think he’s pissed everyone off enough yet so is having another last ditch attempt.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 09/05/2026 11:09

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 09/05/2026 11:01

Shocking decision. Harman is a danger to women and girls :
https://x.com/HarrietHarman/status/1912437893433278601?lang=en

"The Supreme Court ruling correctly interprets the Equality Act, giving effect to our intention when drafting it. Single sex spaces for women are important & can exclude trans women but only where necessary. The Act, & ruling, protects rights of women while also respecting the rights of trans women."

Absolute bullshit and factually incorrect. And this is why they've lost the country - utter burble, denying reality, in hock to a lot of very stupid luxury student politics and with no clear plan about anything.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 09/05/2026 11:10

DialSquare · 09/05/2026 11:07

Well he obviously doesn’t think he’s pissed everyone off enough yet so is having another last ditch attempt.

It's always been Labour's response to disaster. If what you're doing is going hideously wrong and everybody hates it, their answer is to do more of it faster.

kinkytoes · 09/05/2026 11:25

Is he still twatting about making crap decisions when he should be resigning?

DavyCrockettsWildFrontEar · 09/05/2026 11:29

"Still twatting about" sums it up perfectly... 🙄

soundof · 09/05/2026 11:31

It'd almost as if he doesn't want to stay as PM? What an incredible and tone deaf appointment (and spin attempt, as it was made some time ago I believe).

Toseland · 09/05/2026 11:40

He's not stupid, of course he knows - it's just that he's anti-women and has an agenda we don't know about.

Olderbadger1 · 09/05/2026 11:45

He must either not listen to advisers, or the whole lot of them are in an echo-chamber that nothing can penetrate. I'm not surprised at the choice of a TWAW handmaiden - there are probably no other options in his circle - but the stupidity in not thinking that PIE would come up, especially given the continuing disquiet regarding Labour's response to the grooming gangs, is staggering. It also feels like a desperate attempt at virtue-signalling. He and his ministers could simply commit to working closely with the DA Commissioner and Victims Commissioner and holding regular strategy meetings with women's organisations and activists. There's so much expertise and experience out there already, and some trusted MPs who could be given more prominence. Harman is as much use as a chocolate teapot.

RedToothBrush · 09/05/2026 11:48

And here is everyone wondering on MN why Reform are doing so well! I laugh. I can't stand Reform but it's decisions that are as incomprehensible as this that really highlight the problem.

Sausagenbacon · 09/05/2026 12:03

Hilarious.
And yet deeply mysterious.

Callmejudith · 09/05/2026 12:14

Extraordinary! This is why so many people are turning to reform

singthing · 09/05/2026 12:39

This very tedious list of coincidental news release is transparent.

Last week the police arrested someone regarding the missing McSweeney phone - didn't find the phone though. FFS how many "normal" people's phones get stolen get this level of attention?

Now suddenly he is hiring a woman to focus on women and equalities but it is FAR too little, FAR too late, not even counting that the choice is poor anyway.

And trying to bring back Brown as some kind of financial figleaf fixer.

It is embarrassing watching him drag this out, we all know there's a speech about "attention detracting from the good work the party is doing, I have made the choice to step aside..." ready to go (if choice means death grip on a job that people are actively bulldozering you out of the door to prevent the next u-turn or fuck up).

MarieDeGournay · 09/05/2026 12:39

Freda69 · 09/05/2026 10:52

Harriet TWAW Harman and one time PIE supporter.
I honestly can’t decide whether to spit or cry.

Here I go again, saying 'In fairness to...' when I know it's unpopular, and may be misinterpreted as me supporting the people in question, which I don't:

'In fairness' to HH, she was never a PIE [Paedophile Information Exchange] supporter.
She was an official of the NCCL in the 1970s, and during that time the PIE became some kind of 'affiliate member'.

It's beyond question that they should never have been tolerated in any way by the NCCL at all, and Harman should have acted to get rid of them, when they somehow managed to get rubber-stamped as affiliates.

But I do not believe she was ever a 'PIE supporter'.

I think the facts are damning enough: She will always have to carry the guilt of not having prevented PIE from become an affiliate, or getting rid of them ASAP when she realised they were.

It was the 1970s, and she has apologised deeply, but I think it still casts doubt on her suitability in the specific area of women and children's rights, and along with being TWAW, makes her unsuitable for being an advisor on women and girls.

singthing · 09/05/2026 12:42

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 09/05/2026 11:01

Shocking decision. Harman is a danger to women and girls :
https://x.com/HarrietHarman/status/1912437893433278601?lang=en

"The Supreme Court ruling correctly interprets the Equality Act, giving effect to our intention when drafting it. Single sex spaces for women are important & can exclude trans women but only where necessary. The Act, & ruling, protects rights of women while also respecting the rights of trans women."

The part about intentions is interesting, because remember that woman who was loudly banging on that not being the intention at all, and she was IN THE ROOM as part of the team drafting the law and the SC was the total opposite of what they really meant even though they didn't bother to actually make it clear etc etc?

(I notice she's gone very quiet now actually)

soundof · 09/05/2026 12:44

MarieDeGournay · 09/05/2026 12:39

Here I go again, saying 'In fairness to...' when I know it's unpopular, and may be misinterpreted as me supporting the people in question, which I don't:

'In fairness' to HH, she was never a PIE [Paedophile Information Exchange] supporter.
She was an official of the NCCL in the 1970s, and during that time the PIE became some kind of 'affiliate member'.

It's beyond question that they should never have been tolerated in any way by the NCCL at all, and Harman should have acted to get rid of them, when they somehow managed to get rubber-stamped as affiliates.

But I do not believe she was ever a 'PIE supporter'.

I think the facts are damning enough: She will always have to carry the guilt of not having prevented PIE from become an affiliate, or getting rid of them ASAP when she realised they were.

It was the 1970s, and she has apologised deeply, but I think it still casts doubt on her suitability in the specific area of women and children's rights, and along with being TWAW, makes her unsuitable for being an advisor on women and girls.

Where has she apologiesd for the PIE connection, out of interest?

MelOfTheRoses · 09/05/2026 12:45

Oh dear! 🤦‍♀️

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 09/05/2026 12:48

singthing · 09/05/2026 12:39

This very tedious list of coincidental news release is transparent.

Last week the police arrested someone regarding the missing McSweeney phone - didn't find the phone though. FFS how many "normal" people's phones get stolen get this level of attention?

Now suddenly he is hiring a woman to focus on women and equalities but it is FAR too little, FAR too late, not even counting that the choice is poor anyway.

And trying to bring back Brown as some kind of financial figleaf fixer.

It is embarrassing watching him drag this out, we all know there's a speech about "attention detracting from the good work the party is doing, I have made the choice to step aside..." ready to go (if choice means death grip on a job that people are actively bulldozering you out of the door to prevent the next u-turn or fuck up).

He's a lousy PM, he really is.

But changing leader won't fix that (just for a start) the farmers and anyone related to one, parents of children with SEND and anyone related to one, schools, parents home educating, people with disabilities, the elderly, employers, people trying to pay bills taxes and buy food, and women....

all hold significant numbers who utterly loathe this government and have been harmed by their policies. It's not a rotten leader in charge of a wonderful party with wonderful policies, the whole bloody ship needs scuttling.

They're identifying as the public having trounced them yesterday for 'not creating change fast enough'. No, that's not it.