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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?

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HazelLemur · 27/04/2026 17:39

Dear friends,

As anyone paying attention to current trans affairs knows, the anti-trans brigade like to throw around what they think is the “killer question”.

"What is a woman, then?"

These people will often engage in triumphal sneering as they further insist "Your chromosomes are what you are; XX are women and XY are men. It's science, innit?"

And as a confident trans-woman I say to these people "Absolutely! What is a woman? Great question! Let's examine that".

To begin, let's consult three definitive sources:

First, the Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language.
Then, modern genetics and neurophysiology.
And finally, up to date research on brain structure in cisgender and transgender women.

First, the dictionary.
For this, let's go with the Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language:

Woman (noun)

  1. an adult female human being
  2. an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth

As we can see from #2, despite the recent social backlash and disproportionately loud screeching from certain murky corners of the internet, Western culture as a whole is moving toward accepting the validity of trans peoples' inner gender identity. No person with a working moral compass would consider this a bad thing.

Next, let’s summarize genetics and neurophysiology.

Modern society routinely treats all the following “XY” humans as WOMEN, however...
-You can be a woman because you have X & Y chromosomes but your body is insensitive to androgens and you have female anatomy & gender identity.
Ah, so much for the childishly simplistic “But women = XX and men = XY".
-You can be a woman with X & Y chromosomes but your Y is missing the SRY gene, so you have a female body and gender identity (yes, this is a real thing despite your denials).

People who have X & Y chromosomes, but their Y is missing the SRY gene, develop a female body.
Should we treat such people as men, in society, when they have the body of a woman, simply because simpletons insist that XY = Male?
Only an inveterate bigot with some weird religious and/or psychosexual axe to grind would say yes.

You can be a woman with XXY or XXXY chromosomes, giving you a male body but female brain/body map and gender identity.
-You can be a woman with XY chromosomes but a mutation called CBX2 that blocks the influence of the SRY gene.
-You can be a woman because you have 46,XY in some cells but 46,XX in other cells, or 47, XXY.

These are all valid, scientifically obervable genetic variations that highlight the "But XX = women and XY = men" mantra for the simplistic, unscientific nonsense that it is.

And lastly, there are studies of brain structure.
These show that in the section of the brain that determines one’s sense of gender identity.

The brains of transgender women are almost identical to those of cisgender women.
The brains of trans men also align more with cisgender men than they do with women.

And so, to summarize

Modern science, which is how rational people resolve differences of opinion.
It is not about referring to holy books, written in pre-scientific ages past.
It is not about regurgitating simplistic, binary statements that you learnt in the 4th grade.

This shows us that, genetically and biologically speaking, there are many types of women; including transgender women like me.

P.S. In this essay we have a summary of the cutting edge science which validates transgender womens' biologically determined, inner sense of gender identity.

As I’ve said, a rational society follows rational explanations, and doesn’t define its people via outdated religious or cultural ideas.
But beyond that, there is simply human courtesy and kindness.

It’s cruel, hateful and rude for the transphobic bigots to demand that people be forced to conform to their anti-scientific notions.

No one's life is affected negatively by honoring a transwoman as a woman, as the historical record of many trans accepting societies have shown.

Good people will see the very challenging dilemma that transwomen are in, and their natural empathy, coupled with scientific insight, will make them want to support their fellow human beings in being who they know they are.

And so, I ask all of you:

Should we as a society treat trans-women as the women their brain and neurobiology tells us they are? And, if not, why on earth wouldn’t we?

P.P.S. The image in this post is of women who have XY chromosomes, but an androgen insensitivity syndrome which causes their bodies to develop as female.
Would anyone in their right mind insist we treat them as males, simply because of their chromosomal makeup?
The bigots might, but you know you're better than that, right?

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Waitwhat23 · 27/04/2026 22:38

AngleofRepose · 27/04/2026 22:31

Oh, for the love of..

(And, I was just about to go home to sleep...It's all Boily's fault- here, hold the support camel for a minute, won't be long)

Hazel, I have just one thing to say to you:

YOU ARE SO BORING. WRONG AND BORING. Find something else to do with your life, omg, just get a friggin' life.

(Yawn. ok, thanks, Boily, I'll have the camel back.. 'Night, all)

Edited

Watch oot! The camel's farting capacity only adds to the fart fest which we're all huffing!

(..Ack, ack...clutches throat...the horror etc etc)

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:40

Hedgehogforshort · 27/04/2026 22:37

Fucking homophobe don’t you mean foot rest 😂

Well we don't like to use him as a foot rest. Union rules you know. Mostly we just pop a tray on him for our coffees

DialSquare · 27/04/2026 22:41

Bobbymoore123 · 27/04/2026 22:30

You're all so snide and self-congratulatory, I'm surprised this board doesn't make itself sick sniffing its own farts.

woman farting GIF

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Waitwhat23 · 27/04/2026 22:44

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:36

I want one too - as well as the reclining sword throne.
But I'm not allowed new furniture. The cat didn't speak to me for three weeks after I bought a new pouffe. It's just not worth the aggravation

Liam Gallagher 90S GIF by Oasis

Has the cat been spotted wearing a pair of sunglasses? My mind immediately went to this song

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:44

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:31

Never! You won't get my soul for anything less than a pair of fuzzy monster slippers and an oodie

How about a knock off type oodie from Sainsbury's and a pair of crocs with a fuzzy monster jibbitz? (Ignore the Highland cow on my other foot)

Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?
Hedgehogforshort · 27/04/2026 22:45

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:44

How about a knock off type oodie from Sainsbury's and a pair of crocs with a fuzzy monster jibbitz? (Ignore the Highland cow on my other foot)

😂😂😂

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:48

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:36

I want one too - as well as the reclining sword throne.
But I'm not allowed new furniture. The cat didn't speak to me for three weeks after I bought a new pouffe. It's just not worth the aggravation

To be fair my cat does own one of the three recliners. He is not impressed if I have two visitors at the same time and he loses his chair. He sits on the pouffe judging us.

nocoolnamesleft · 27/04/2026 22:49

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:44

How about a knock off type oodie from Sainsbury's and a pair of crocs with a fuzzy monster jibbitz? (Ignore the Highland cow on my other foot)

But I like the highland coo.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:49

Bobbymoore123 · 27/04/2026 22:30

You're all so snide and self-congratulatory, I'm surprised this board doesn't make itself sick sniffing its own farts.

Dung Beetle Insect GIF by putri

I identify as a dung beetle so...

DialSquare · 27/04/2026 22:50

Waitwhat23 · 27/04/2026 22:38

Watch oot! The camel's farting capacity only adds to the fart fest which we're all huffing!

(..Ack, ack...clutches throat...the horror etc etc)

Pretty ironic for the prolific plopper to bring up farts (so to speak).

PsychosexualAxeToGrind · 27/04/2026 22:51

Handmaidening writ large on that l o n g, l o n g, t e d i o u s FB post

NoWinnersOnlyLosers · 27/04/2026 22:51

Let me ask you: do you have ovaries and can get pregnant? If not then you’re not a biological woman

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:53

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:44

How about a knock off type oodie from Sainsbury's and a pair of crocs with a fuzzy monster jibbitz? (Ignore the Highland cow on my other foot)

Hmmmm. Keep taking

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 27/04/2026 22:55

Hedgehogforshort · 27/04/2026 20:41

So if you visit do you all have to lay back at the same time or can people have different stages of upright and prone?

<conjuring up images>

As long as the TRAs don't get their way, as they want us all to be supine.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:56

nocoolnamesleft · 27/04/2026 22:49

But I like the highland coo.

They were a Christmas present. They are ace. Just don't wear them with long brown fleece sock/leg warmer type things. It's very disconcerting and is not a good look.

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Hedgehogforshort · 27/04/2026 22:57

NoWinnersOnlyLosers · 27/04/2026 22:51

Let me ask you: do you have ovaries and can get pregnant? If not then you’re not a biological woman

Watch out you just gave out a gotcha (ducks)

lots of women cannot get pregnant or have had their ovaries removed. In biological terms what a woman is it boils down to are they designed to produce large gametes

wether they can or not for whatever reason is neither here nor there.

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:57

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:49

I identify as a dung beetle so...

😂

Screamingabdabz · 27/04/2026 22:58

Catsarestillflumpy · 27/04/2026 18:25

Ugh someone I work with got given a few months ‘sick leave’ to go abroad and get a fake vagina. They have to go back again as if didnt quite take properly 🤮. They’ll probably get more paid time off.

Either way. They still look like a very manly man (over 6ft, complete mans frame, jawline etc) just with a shit ton of make up on (like plastered on foundation) and a fake plastic hole. Way to go.

They’re actually a nice person. I mostly just feel sorry for them. They’ve been sold a lie

Being sold a lie indeed.

I remember debating this very thing with a friend back in 1999 - the medical professionals doing this surgery need to answer for it. They also know it’s a lie and damaging and completely flouts the spirit of any ethical and moral code. Why are they allowed to mutilate people to create some Frankenstein fakery?

DialSquare · 27/04/2026 23:00

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:56

They were a Christmas present. They are ace. Just don't wear them with long brown fleece sock/leg warmer type things. It's very disconcerting and is not a good look.

I like it. Mr Tumnus chic. It’s all the rage.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 23:01

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:53

Hmmmm. Keep taking

They do actual furry crocs! You can pet them!

https://www.crocs.co.uk/p/classic-unfurgettable-animal-clog/212002.html

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ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 23:07

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 23:01

They do actual furry crocs! You can pet them!

https://www.crocs.co.uk/p/classic-unfurgettable-animal-clog/212002.html

Oh ok then. I'm in. My mother always said I'd come to a bad end

MyAmpleSheep · 27/04/2026 23:08

I have never seen a thread fillibustered so effectively. I am in awe!

MyrtleLion · 27/04/2026 23:11

Dear @HazelLemur

Lovely little story there. Really enjoyed reading it.

Do you actually have any of the conditions listed or did you develop as a normal little boy and then go through male puberty and become a man?

If you did go through normal puberty and become a man, please don't use people with differences in sexual development to further your ideological agenda.

Much love and kisses,
MyrtleLion xxx

NoWinnersOnlyLosers · 27/04/2026 23:13

Hedgehogforshort · 27/04/2026 22:57

Watch out you just gave out a gotcha (ducks)

lots of women cannot get pregnant or have had their ovaries removed. In biological terms what a woman is it boils down to are they designed to produce large gametes

wether they can or not for whatever reason is neither here nor there.

As as long as they had ovaries when they were born and a uterus to carry a pregnancy or not is all that matters.
Not getting into hermaphodit situations

WaitingForSomeone · 27/04/2026 23:14

The moment you started mansplaining I could tell you were a bloke. Biscuit

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