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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?

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HazelLemur · 27/04/2026 17:39

Dear friends,

As anyone paying attention to current trans affairs knows, the anti-trans brigade like to throw around what they think is the “killer question”.

"What is a woman, then?"

These people will often engage in triumphal sneering as they further insist "Your chromosomes are what you are; XX are women and XY are men. It's science, innit?"

And as a confident trans-woman I say to these people "Absolutely! What is a woman? Great question! Let's examine that".

To begin, let's consult three definitive sources:

First, the Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language.
Then, modern genetics and neurophysiology.
And finally, up to date research on brain structure in cisgender and transgender women.

First, the dictionary.
For this, let's go with the Cambridge Dictionary of the English Language:

Woman (noun)

  1. an adult female human being
  2. an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth

As we can see from #2, despite the recent social backlash and disproportionately loud screeching from certain murky corners of the internet, Western culture as a whole is moving toward accepting the validity of trans peoples' inner gender identity. No person with a working moral compass would consider this a bad thing.

Next, let’s summarize genetics and neurophysiology.

Modern society routinely treats all the following “XY” humans as WOMEN, however...
-You can be a woman because you have X & Y chromosomes but your body is insensitive to androgens and you have female anatomy & gender identity.
Ah, so much for the childishly simplistic “But women = XX and men = XY".
-You can be a woman with X & Y chromosomes but your Y is missing the SRY gene, so you have a female body and gender identity (yes, this is a real thing despite your denials).

People who have X & Y chromosomes, but their Y is missing the SRY gene, develop a female body.
Should we treat such people as men, in society, when they have the body of a woman, simply because simpletons insist that XY = Male?
Only an inveterate bigot with some weird religious and/or psychosexual axe to grind would say yes.

You can be a woman with XXY or XXXY chromosomes, giving you a male body but female brain/body map and gender identity.
-You can be a woman with XY chromosomes but a mutation called CBX2 that blocks the influence of the SRY gene.
-You can be a woman because you have 46,XY in some cells but 46,XX in other cells, or 47, XXY.

These are all valid, scientifically obervable genetic variations that highlight the "But XX = women and XY = men" mantra for the simplistic, unscientific nonsense that it is.

And lastly, there are studies of brain structure.
These show that in the section of the brain that determines one’s sense of gender identity.

The brains of transgender women are almost identical to those of cisgender women.
The brains of trans men also align more with cisgender men than they do with women.

And so, to summarize

Modern science, which is how rational people resolve differences of opinion.
It is not about referring to holy books, written in pre-scientific ages past.
It is not about regurgitating simplistic, binary statements that you learnt in the 4th grade.

This shows us that, genetically and biologically speaking, there are many types of women; including transgender women like me.

P.S. In this essay we have a summary of the cutting edge science which validates transgender womens' biologically determined, inner sense of gender identity.

As I’ve said, a rational society follows rational explanations, and doesn’t define its people via outdated religious or cultural ideas.
But beyond that, there is simply human courtesy and kindness.

It’s cruel, hateful and rude for the transphobic bigots to demand that people be forced to conform to their anti-scientific notions.

No one's life is affected negatively by honoring a transwoman as a woman, as the historical record of many trans accepting societies have shown.

Good people will see the very challenging dilemma that transwomen are in, and their natural empathy, coupled with scientific insight, will make them want to support their fellow human beings in being who they know they are.

And so, I ask all of you:

Should we as a society treat trans-women as the women their brain and neurobiology tells us they are? And, if not, why on earth wouldn’t we?

P.P.S. The image in this post is of women who have XY chromosomes, but an androgen insensitivity syndrome which causes their bodies to develop as female.
Would anyone in their right mind insist we treat them as males, simply because of their chromosomal makeup?
The bigots might, but you know you're better than that, right?

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DialSquare · 27/04/2026 22:01

TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2026 21:26

So to sum up:

  1. We recently had the dictionary changed after Posie Parker used the original on billboards and the men didn't like it and that is why I, a man, am a woman;
  2. DSDs exist (and are sex-specific) and that is why I, a man with none of those conditions, am a woman;
  3. Some male brains (subject to all the same hormones that the rest of the male body was) differ very slightly from the average male brain, more closely resembling those of homosexual men, and continue to bear vanishingly little resemblance to the average female brain, and that is why I definitely have a Ladybrain (TM) stuck in a man's body.

Well, thanks for stopping by.

I think I miss the days of "nO dEbAtE!!!&£@".

@Boiledbeetle I have a pull-out sofa that turns into a bed WHICH I REGULARLY USE FOR TV WATCHING EVEN WHEN I'VE NO INTENTION OF SLEEPING ON IT. And I DO want to brag about it. Sometimes I pull the duvet through too. Maybe a pillow. You can see how my moral compass could go astray in all that fabric. I like to think it's keeping my plot company, wherever they may be.

waynes world GIF

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TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2026 22:03

Helleofabore · 27/04/2026 21:58

Blimey.

So much misinformation in one post. Well done to you, OP.

How very dare you. @Boiledbeetle has posted incontrovertible photographic proof of her claims.

Waitwhat23 · 27/04/2026 22:05

Ahem. Both our sofas turn into (double) sofa beds. Very handy on the nights where I am convinced my husband has hidden a mini loudspeaker in his pillowcase specifically in order to magnify his snores.

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:08

TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2026 21:26

So to sum up:

  1. We recently had the dictionary changed after Posie Parker used the original on billboards and the men didn't like it and that is why I, a man, am a woman;
  2. DSDs exist (and are sex-specific) and that is why I, a man with none of those conditions, am a woman;
  3. Some male brains (subject to all the same hormones that the rest of the male body was) differ very slightly from the average male brain, more closely resembling those of homosexual men, and continue to bear vanishingly little resemblance to the average female brain, and that is why I definitely have a Ladybrain (TM) stuck in a man's body.

Well, thanks for stopping by.

I think I miss the days of "nO dEbAtE!!!&£@".

@Boiledbeetle I have a pull-out sofa that turns into a bed WHICH I REGULARLY USE FOR TV WATCHING EVEN WHEN I'VE NO INTENTION OF SLEEPING ON IT. And I DO want to brag about it. Sometimes I pull the duvet through too. Maybe a pillow. You can see how my moral compass could go astray in all that fabric. I like to think it's keeping my plot company, wherever they may be.

I want a pull out sofa now!

An electric throw on a recliner just doesn't cut it in the same way a duvet on the pull out sofa would.

Your moral compass is probably under the duvet.

Ohdofuckoffagain · 27/04/2026 22:10

Dear friends 😂😂😂

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:13

Hedgehogforshort · 27/04/2026 20:41

So if you visit do you all have to lay back at the same time or can people have different stages of upright and prone?

<conjuring up images>

Different stages indeed. It's a very fancy set up. 😂

Hedgehogforshort · 27/04/2026 22:14

@Boiledbeetle ( i liked what you did there)

I suppose that the advantage of a reclining chair is that, you can always do a hunt under them for spare baccy, papers, snowballs that sort of thing should you find yourself short of something in the middle of the night

TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2026 22:15

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:08

I want a pull out sofa now!

An electric throw on a recliner just doesn't cut it in the same way a duvet on the pull out sofa would.

Your moral compass is probably under the duvet.

Oohhh an electric throw, though...

I suppose there's not even a fire hazard if you leave it on all night, given it's sitting atop a bunch of Westerosi swords melded by dragonfire. Smart.

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:15

choccytime · 27/04/2026 20:15

All woman here 😬If you've got a penis you're not one , end of

I might have a pickled one - It's probably in the fridge with my moral compass. Or down the sofa cushions

EdithStourton · 27/04/2026 22:16

NRTFOP (not read the full opening post).
Can't be bothered. It's so bloody predictable.

It's amazing how some men think that women appreciate being treated like idiots.

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:17

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2026 20:47

Does your mum keep hold of the remote controls, and if one set of reclining-sofa-sitters is boring her, she can flatten them, and make the more interesting set sit up and talk to her?
😄

Ah. No remote control. She's old school. We sit up when she sharply orders us to.

Waitwhat23 · 27/04/2026 22:19

MarieDeGournay · 27/04/2026 20:47

Does your mum keep hold of the remote controls, and if one set of reclining-sofa-sitters is boring her, she can flatten them, and make the more interesting set sit up and talk to her?
😄

I am amused by this image. Imagining the mum shouting 'BORING! Down you go!' and the next person being unreclined in the hope they can offer more stimulating conversation. Probably a bit nervous that they might not meet the required standard.

EdithStourton · 27/04/2026 22:19

And Boily is doing well on converting me to the idea of crocs...

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:19

TakeTheCuntingQuichePatricia · 27/04/2026 20:49

So does mine! Not fancy remote controlled ones though. Just one where you pull the Little handle out and the leg bit flips up.

Yep. That's them. Lazyboys.

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:21

DialSquare · 27/04/2026 21:00

Well I didn’t want to brag too
much, too early, but I’ve got TWO sofas and TWO recliners.

Gosh. Ok you win

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:24

TheHereticalOne · 27/04/2026 22:15

Oohhh an electric throw, though...

I suppose there's not even a fire hazard if you leave it on all night, given it's sitting atop a bunch of Westerosi swords melded by dragonfire. Smart.

Alas the blasted thing times out and switches off after 90 minutes (or is it 60? I can't be arsed to move to check)

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:28

EdithStourton · 27/04/2026 22:19

And Boily is doing well on converting me to the idea of crocs...

Come over to the dark side.

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Are We Really 'Women' On The Inside?
BackToLurk · 27/04/2026 22:29

Wearenotborg · 27/04/2026 17:45

Did you really type that all out? How depressing is your life? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

No

www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=26917708847840377&id=100000838794011

Bobbymoore123 · 27/04/2026 22:30

You're all so snide and self-congratulatory, I'm surprised this board doesn't make itself sick sniffing its own farts.

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:31

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:28

Come over to the dark side.

Never! You won't get my soul for anything less than a pair of fuzzy monster slippers and an oodie

AngleofRepose · 27/04/2026 22:31

HazelLemur · 27/04/2026 17:48

And to anyone still on the fence, take a look - a proper look - at the first few responses.

Are these rational, intelligent, or inquisitive responses and a desire to engage? Do they seem like the kind of statements made by empathetic people? Or might they possibly, just possibly, appear to underline my opening post? 🤔

Oh, for the love of..

(And, I was just about to go home to sleep...It's all Boily's fault- here, hold the support camel for a minute, won't be long)

Hazel, I have just one thing to say to you:

YOU ARE SO BORING. WRONG AND BORING. Find something else to do with your life, omg, just get a friggin' life.

(Yawn. ok, thanks, Boily, I'll have the camel back.. 'Night, all)

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:33

Waitwhat23 · 27/04/2026 22:19

I am amused by this image. Imagining the mum shouting 'BORING! Down you go!' and the next person being unreclined in the hope they can offer more stimulating conversation. Probably a bit nervous that they might not meet the required standard.

She would definitely do this if she could.

Tbf, so would I.
Best not give her ideas though

Hedgehogforshort · 27/04/2026 22:34

Oooooo

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:36

Boiledbeetle · 27/04/2026 22:08

I want a pull out sofa now!

An electric throw on a recliner just doesn't cut it in the same way a duvet on the pull out sofa would.

Your moral compass is probably under the duvet.

I want one too - as well as the reclining sword throne.
But I'm not allowed new furniture. The cat didn't speak to me for three weeks after I bought a new pouffe. It's just not worth the aggravation

Hedgehogforshort · 27/04/2026 22:37

ElenOfTheWays · 27/04/2026 22:36

I want one too - as well as the reclining sword throne.
But I'm not allowed new furniture. The cat didn't speak to me for three weeks after I bought a new pouffe. It's just not worth the aggravation

Fucking homophobe don’t you mean foot rest 😂

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