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Southport report lays bare the failures of authorities - and the attacker's parents

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IwantToRetire · 13/04/2026 18:30

The words "failure", "failing" and "failed" appear more than 200 times in Monday's Southport Report

Its findings leave almost no agency, organisation or individual involved in Axel Rudakubana’s life unscathed.

The police, council, mental health services, Prevent programme – none of them took ownership of the risks that he posed.

Only The Acorn School, which the attacker attended after being expelled from Range High School, is noted as having repeatedly intervened.

But the Chair of the inquiry, Sir Adrian Fulford, also clearly believes in parental responsibility.

The attacker's father, in particular, is described as "obstructive" and "manipulative" in relation to the authorities.

It is rare to see a killer’s parents singled-out for not doing more to prevent their child’s crimes.

Together, the Southport attack was a failure of both parenting and policy – nobody, says the Chair, agreed who was responsible for the troubled teenager.

There was a "merry-go-round of referrals, assessments, case-closures and 'hand-offs'", he says.

There is even a specific moment when Sir Adrian believes the murders could have been prevented, after the attacker was caught with a knife on a bus in 2022.

But no arrest or search of his home took place, leaving the poison in his bedroom and the warped search history on his computer undetected.

The report’s recommendations include setting up an agency with overall responsibility for monitoring risk, to avoid repeat failings.
But there are searching questions too about access to online materials for children, the availability of weapons and the complexities of the attacker’s autism (the Chair is keen not to stigmatise others with condition).

Ultimately, only the attacker can account for his crimes. But for the families of the victims and survivors, today’s report contains the painful conclusion that he could – and should – have been stopped.

https://www.itv.com/news/2026-04-13/southport-report-finds-failures-by-authorities-and-at-home

The Southport Inquiry: Phase 1 report
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-southport-inquiry-phase-1-report

The Southport Inquiry: Phase 1 report

Phase 1 report of the inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the Southport attack of 29 July 2024.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-southport-inquiry-phase-1-report

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likelysuspect · 13/04/2026 21:21

Octavia64 · 13/04/2026 21:03

It’s an interesting report.

it’s clear that this is not within the remit of prevent as they have a very specific remit with respect to terrorism and AR did not fit that remit.

CAMHS in many areas will not even take referrals for autistic children and teens as autism is not a MH issue.

SS and the safeguarding framework is not really capable of dealing with a situation where the child is the cause of danger.

i used to teach and there were quite a few teens who brought knives etc to school. As far as I’m aware there’s no service to work with them.

Absolutely true and I said this on threads at the time

What failed him and those victims were not individual services, but the system that doesnt recognise this and wont or cant act until harm is done

For people saying he had a knife, he attacked a school child, he ordered weapons, he made threats. Im afraid to say that is happening day to day now, the only difference is thankfully the vast majority of those children (both male and female) havent committed murder. But they have been violent, excluded from school, no service can meet their needs, no intervention is taking place because there isnt one. Youth justice services wont or cant criminalise, same with the courts.

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · 13/04/2026 21:21

@StillSpartacus I agree! Cross posted but similar sentiments.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/04/2026 21:22

This could be explosive.

"In the House of Commons, Chris Philp responds to the Southport Inquiry, expressing his frustration that a School Headteacher’s concerns were dismissed due to the attacker’s ethnicity."

SidewaysOtter · 13/04/2026 21:23

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 13/04/2026 20:06

In America those parents would now be in jail.

And rightly so. I am tired of excuses being made for and by people who failed to do even the bare minimum that a civilised society would expect.

It was clear from the report (or at least the news story about it in this evening's Times) that the parents actively obstructed what little authority involvement there was. They - along with all the authority figures who failed to act/closed files/referred the matter on for another meeting scheduled in three months time - are at least partially responsible for what happened and should be punished accordingly.

likelysuspect · 13/04/2026 21:23

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/04/2026 21:22

This could be explosive.

"In the House of Commons, Chris Philp responds to the Southport Inquiry, expressing his frustration that a School Headteacher’s concerns were dismissed due to the attacker’s ethnicity."

Who said they were dismissed because of ethnicity?

My suspicion is they were dismissed due to his autism.

Octavia64 · 13/04/2026 21:27

likelysuspect · 13/04/2026 21:23

Who said they were dismissed because of ethnicity?

My suspicion is they were dismissed due to his autism.

The report gives several examples of dismissing concerns due to his autism.

i didn’t read the whole thing but I haven’t yet found an example of concerns being dismissed due to his ethnicity

SidewaysOtter · 13/04/2026 21:28

This states that his escalating behaviour was dismissed because he was autistic: https://www.thetimes.com/article/579e74df-8515-42ac-9f2f-888f09b6bed6?shareToken=72092fb6a287d23cf402cb6836bc10a6&ver=article

(Share token link)

"[The judge] also found that Rudakubana’s parents bore “considerable blame for what occurred” by obstructing efforts by mental health and social services to intervene."

GailBlancheViola · 13/04/2026 21:31

When are the people within these various agencies going to face consequences for their failures? Time and time and time again other people pay the price for their failures and what happens to them? Sweet fuck all, we just hear more weasel words about lessons being learnt.

HermioneWeasley · 13/04/2026 21:32

The parents should be prosecuted

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/04/2026 21:32

likelysuspect · 13/04/2026 21:23

Who said they were dismissed because of ethnicity?

My suspicion is they were dismissed due to his autism.

It was asked in parliment today

Stillfatstillmiserable · 13/04/2026 21:38

I do think the parents should be held partly responsible for what happened.

Also he was referred to PREVENT 3 times!!! But apparently didn’t ’meet the criteria’ for any further action… what the fucking hell?!

LlamaBasket · 13/04/2026 21:49

I blame him. I blame his parents and I blame our government including agencies like Prevent. (I had Prevent training recently and I couldn’t believe what I was listening to). I’m so angry that this happened. It was entirely preventable. I agree, that others who made excuses for this man should also be in prison.

GailBlancheViola · 13/04/2026 21:53

I do think the parents should be held partly responsible for what happened.

So do I, they lied to and were obstructive towards the agencies and people from those agencies. They also enabled him to amass his haul of weapons.

Other people's children have borne the consequences of their abject failure to parent their son.

Rightsraptor · 13/04/2026 21:59

The head teacher of The Acorn school he was sent to, and where he was found to have a knife on him, was told she was 'racially profiling' him. This is ludicrous. If an individual is actually doing or has done something, how can it be 'profiling'? This is similar thinking to young black men being 'overrepresented' in mental health services and so Valdo Colocane was left free to butcher people. The rights of perpetrators now seem to take precedence over the safety of the rest of us.

ColdWeatherWarning · 13/04/2026 22:06

LlamaBasket · 13/04/2026 21:49

I blame him. I blame his parents and I blame our government including agencies like Prevent. (I had Prevent training recently and I couldn’t believe what I was listening to). I’m so angry that this happened. It was entirely preventable. I agree, that others who made excuses for this man should also be in prison.

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Could you possibly elaborate on the training? Sounds like it was outrageous and/or utterly useless.

There seem to be lots of disturbed young men obsessed with violence, death, destruction, gore etc. Some do horrific things to animals, such as mutilating kittens and blowing up sheep, others collect weapons and plan massacres. The fact it's ignored because "it's not a terrorist ideology" is idiotic. It needs naming, watching out for, and properly punishing/treating before the little twats move onto (real) humans.

IwantToRetire · 13/04/2026 22:09

I think references to the US are misplaced.

They are in relation to guns which have specific regulations (which based on news reports aren't that often implemented) and provide a legal point on which a parent can be prosecuted. eg was the gun/s in a locked cabinet.

There is nothing similar in the UK for guns.

Just how many prison places would be needed for parents whose sons had ordered a lethal knife off the internet.

But as with pornography so long as we have the unregulated virtual world, harm will happen or be done in the real world.

I heard a man talking about his son who had gone to a local park to try out a new camera, and whilst there a random male slashed him to death.

Will anyone bother to stand on their soap box about the parents of the knife wielding young male?

Did anyone say or do anything about the young man who went out with the intent to kill and attack to sisters harmlessly celebrating a birthday in a park.

Sometimes I feel we do need national service. Not to fight wars but to have men of a certain age living away from society and under supervision.

Southport report lays bare the failures of authorities - and the attacker's parents
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OverlyFragrant · 13/04/2026 22:11

I can believe all of it.

I'm having the same issues trying to get authorities to take the threat a schizophrenic neighbour poses seriously.

Mental health services won't talk to me, local authority won't even reply to an email I send, and the police can only arrest him and then release him under investigation before the CPS decide not to prosecute for whatever bullshit reason.

The man has threatened sexual violence, broken into homes, smashed public property, and shouts neo nazi slogans out on his balcony at 3am.

I've said to the local authority today he's the next Valdo Calocane. I got told to watch my tone.

bigyellowtractorface · 13/04/2026 22:12

I watched a lot of the evidence. AR was paid by dad for showering but he also earned money from some kind of online family ancestry business he was running.

He was absolutely dominating that household and everyone seemed in fear of him. His Mum was working night shifts and sounded ground down with his behaviour and ptsd from seeing much of her family killed back in Congo. I think the dad had experienced similar. They seemed to stress shielding their children from talk about what happened and discussion of the barbarity. his elder brother is disabled and needed a lot of practical support.

AR seemed to have fixed views of the world and his experiences and saw himself as a victim of bullying by various peers even though no one else seemed to. Basically seemed to see malign intent in behaviours of others where there was none.

AR became a recluse during lockdown nd refused to leave the house or engage in society. The family seemed to take advantage of the circumstances to stop professionals coming into the house and seeing AR and professionals didn’t force it. Partially because of confusion about lockdown rules which were ever changing at that time.

Anyway, AR’s behaviour particularly towards dad was becoming increasingly dangerous. He poured oil over his head and threatened to set him alight. On the one hand he seemed to be fearing he was going to kill him but on the other hand he seemed adamant about not giving up on him and being frank to services about what was going on, knowing that if he did he would be removed from the home. it’s hard to understand the determination to keep him home, whether it was cultural, religious or boiling frog experience of living with someone who became incrementally violent over a long time. Also there was a sense of the dad being a difficult and obstructive man and I can imagine AR getting his tendency to view things in a different way to everyone else from his dad. Dad seemed to be both victim and perpetrator who encouraged AR to deal with perceived bullying by going in harder in response.

AR almost never left the house in 2 years and pretty much the less than handful of times he did it was with intent of doing harm. He was apprehended every time as far as I can tell AR didn’t lie about his plans either when he was picked up. So on the day he left the house to do what he did the whole family, including his brother sounded if they were bracing themselves but according to them, hoping it was just for an innocent walk even though he’d not done that before. I wondered if he had developed some kind of self consciousness with the not leaving the house and all his pictures show him wearing a mask or covering his face. Anyway, An arsenal of weapons had been ordered and delivered to that small house over the 2 weeks previous and there is no way they didn’t know the contents. The dad was taking receipt of them. I believe the parents denied knowledge but the judge wasn’t buying it.

One of the main services working with him had a ridiculous policy of not reading notes of clients before developing a relationship. Apparently to go in with an open mind. That’s frankly insane.

Most agencies seemed to have a template of action points to follow and if the child doesn’t fit the template then nothing seems to change. They just get discharged and flagged as unsuitable for the service but not necessarily referred to a more intensive one. The pressure to close cases was manifest with pretty much every agency.

The testimony of the owner of the website who sold him the knife was memorable. He got a bit of a savaging. I mean what wholesome purpose is there for the majority of the sales of the types of knives sold on sites like that. Making money off the back of this knife epidemic is repulsively shameful.

Also, I should say that some of what I have written may be slightly inaccurate. I am going off my memory which is shocking these days.

ColdWeatherWarning · 13/04/2026 22:14

"to have men of a certain age living away from society and under supervision"

What they really need is to be grounded in reality. Forced to be involved in a community, having a meaningful role to keep them busy.

So many of these disturbed men are isolated, reclusive, living in virtual worlds of violent/fantasy media, no longer caring about other people or the effects of their actions. Need to drag them away from it.

lljp · 13/04/2026 22:18

The report is 267 pages long and details countless opportunities that his parents, professionals (including police, PREVENT and mental health service) and retailers had to prevent this awful tragedy. The danger he posed was evident for years.

MsGreying · 13/04/2026 22:27

What lessons can we learn?

The only knife a kid needs is a dinner knife, at the dinner table.

We need to stop kids carrying them. If that means changing the legal system from it's current nonsense then so be it.

A kid died round the corner because other kids hadn't been stopped from carrying knives and were not punished for threatening people with knives.
What will we learn different?

Soontobe60 · 13/04/2026 23:13

Having just read the phase 1 report, I’m absolutely appalled at the lack of joined up collaboration by the supposed professionals which, in combination with the total lack of parental control - indeed at any basic attempts of parental control - led to this horrific attack.

likelysuspect · 13/04/2026 23:36

Stillfatstillmiserable · 13/04/2026 21:38

I do think the parents should be held partly responsible for what happened.

Also he was referred to PREVENT 3 times!!! But apparently didn’t ’meet the criteria’ for any further action… what the fucking hell?!

We refer angry violent boys to Prevent, mainly because there isnt anything else, I always know they're not going to meet the criteria and they dont. There needs to be another service for them

Kinsters · 14/04/2026 02:28

His parents should be prosecuted. What reasonable person watches their son, who they know is violent and has amassed an arsenal of weapons, leave the house after years of never leaving the house and thinks "good for him, he's being brave and going on a walk". That's so beyond what any reasonable person would do. The very least they should have done is call the police.

WearyAuldWumman · 14/04/2026 03:04

Rightsraptor · 13/04/2026 21:59

The head teacher of The Acorn school he was sent to, and where he was found to have a knife on him, was told she was 'racially profiling' him. This is ludicrous. If an individual is actually doing or has done something, how can it be 'profiling'? This is similar thinking to young black men being 'overrepresented' in mental health services and so Valdo Colocane was left free to butcher people. The rights of perpetrators now seem to take precedence over the safety of the rest of us.

When I was still working in a Scottish secondary, we had cases where we called in the police because a pupil had brought in a knife or had used a tool as a weapon. There was always some excuse as to why the police didn't need to act.

30+ years ago, I took a piece of creative writing produced by a 13 yr old boy to the boy's Guidance Teacher. In it, the main character stalked and raped one of our young teachers. [ETA The Guidance Teacher laughed. "Oh, Weary! What have you been teaching those boys?"]

After he left school, I found out that he'd carried out the attack on someone else in real life. First offence. Under 21. A very light sentence.

On being released, he offended once again and is unlikely to see the light of day again.

I'll add that all the cases that I've mentioned here involved white Scottish males. In one case, the excuse made for not taking things further was that the boy had ADHD.

It's getting worse up here: courts are not told to make allowances for those under the age of 25.