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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Late night surprise about reputation of FWR

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IwantToRetire · 10/04/2026 02:19

I was on Site Stuff to report back on ongoing freezing and noticed another thread about whether Mumsnet should apologise about deleting threads about ongoing conflict in the Middle East.

And there were some comments about there being a border line between legitimate criticism of Israel's policies and anti semitism. And it is this last that get these threads deleted.

So was surprised to see some comment on this thread saying it was as bad as some threads on FWR, and those particularly at fault are thos with a GC view point.

(Funnily enough AI suggested a title for this thread along the lines of "Are FWR debates judged differently ..... " but now it has hidden its suggestion, just when I was going to use it.)

Oh its come back

"Are sex and gender debates on FWR judged by different standards?"

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Helleofabore · 13/04/2026 12:30

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/04/2026 12:20

I moderate a community too, it has over 10k members.

Considering there is supposedly only 6 posters on here and the rest are just sock puppets, this board must be a breeze to moderate.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/04/2026 12:32

Oh yes, someone on Reddit apparently has made a spreadsheet 😂

Helleofabore · 13/04/2026 12:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/04/2026 12:32

Oh yes, someone on Reddit apparently has made a spreadsheet 😂

Really? Amazing.

There was that male poster who also declared that he calculated how many he saw in a pic of a rally once . I think it was j j / barley, or someone from back then.

EdithStourton · 13/04/2026 12:47

If anyone wants a hostile board, try The Doghouse. If you get with the program there, all is good. But admit to buying a crossbred puppy from your mate's mum, telling your dog off or otherwise veering from the One True Path, and you'll be patronised, criticised and have people implying that you shouldn't have a dog.

Established posters on this board are models of patience and civility by comparison.

<wanders off wondering whose sock puppet they think I am>

Helleofabore · 13/04/2026 12:51

<wanders off wondering whose sock puppet they think I am>

I tried to find out once, but no one answered. I wonder who my puppet master is so I have full knowledge but doubt I will ever know.

Pingponghavoc · 13/04/2026 13:04

I agree this isn't the worst board to have an opinion.

The problem here is language as much as anything. TRA want to call women cis, only mention a man is male when relevant, decide when its relevant, control the definition of feminism. Anything else is a hostile environment.

Women dont want to follow those rules. They want to call a man a man.

And it is a feminist board on a parenting website called Mumsnet. Women have made the site what it is.

How far would I get going into a trans site trying to debate under my rules? Then claiming its the users who are wrong, not me because I have no problem other sites?

EdithStourton · 13/04/2026 13:37

Helleofabore · 13/04/2026 12:51

<wanders off wondering whose sock puppet they think I am>

I tried to find out once, but no one answered. I wonder who my puppet master is so I have full knowledge but doubt I will ever know.

It's a mystery. I have no idea who is pulling my strings....

soupycustard · 13/04/2026 13:40

We're not sock puppets. We're paid by a shady cabal of fascist billionaires. Well, I am. Definitely.

Helleofabore · 13/04/2026 13:43

soupycustard · 13/04/2026 13:40

We're not sock puppets. We're paid by a shady cabal of fascist billionaires. Well, I am. Definitely.

well then where is my money??? how do I make a claim from the fascist billionaires?

NoWordForFluffy · 13/04/2026 13:47

EdithStourton · 13/04/2026 12:47

If anyone wants a hostile board, try The Doghouse. If you get with the program there, all is good. But admit to buying a crossbred puppy from your mate's mum, telling your dog off or otherwise veering from the One True Path, and you'll be patronised, criticised and have people implying that you shouldn't have a dog.

Established posters on this board are models of patience and civility by comparison.

<wanders off wondering whose sock puppet they think I am>

I won't venture onto there much, despite having a dog. It's properly scary! 😬

Mmmnotsure · 13/04/2026 14:04

ItsNotOrwell · 13/04/2026 11:44

No. What happened was this: I defended myself just a little bit. Meaning you felt you could call me rude. I have not done that to you or others despite provocation (the furthest I’ve gone is said the group is hostile, but that is not directed at a particular person). You and the others discuss me and my posts between yourselves - “Hmm, yes Eresh, the dissonance in these posts is fucking remarkable …” Can you not see how antagonistic this is?

This isn't a group.

It is a collection of individual posters, which varies all the time. They may or may not come onto the site/thread, depending on the day/the subject/what's happening irl. Many name change all the time so we don't even have consistency there.

Why don't you read around - the Break it down for me threads are as good a place as any to start
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5445899-break-it-down-for-me-2-general-break-it-down-archive-thread?page=1
to give you an idea of the history and context.

But then I am reminded that your first post on this thread stated,
'There is no debate allowed in this environment. None.'

Given that this is pages and pages of debate you might like to check what the word means over here.

Break it down for me? 2 - General Break it Down archive thread | Mumsnet

I am creating this thread as an archive thread just for all the important sources of information that we read and want to keep. With the option for sa...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5445899-break-it-down-for-me-2-general-break-it-down-archive-thread?page=1

RedToothBrush · 13/04/2026 15:44

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/04/2026 12:32

Oh yes, someone on Reddit apparently has made a spreadsheet 😂

What the hell do they need a spreadsheet for?

U-Boat Captain: I am making notes, Captain, and when we win the war, you will be brought to account.
Mainwaring: You can write what you like. You're not going to win this war.
U-Boat Captain: Oh, yes we are!
Mainwaring: Oh no you're not!
U-Boat Captain: Oh yes we are!
Pike: [sings] Whistle while you work / Hitler is a twerp / He's half barmy, so's his army / Whistle while you work.
U-Boat Captain: [pointing at Pike] Your name will also go on zee list. What is it?
Mainwaring: Don't tell him, Pike!
U-Boat Captain: Pike.

Easytoconfuse · 13/04/2026 16:10

ItsNotOrwell · 13/04/2026 09:40

Sigh.

I apologise. I actually did mean I think the women here are really well-informed. There was no insult intended.

May I ask why you felt the need to start an apology with the word 'sigh?' In the UK, that pretty much says 'I can't believe I'm having to do this,' which rather spoils the point.

You've chosen to post on a UK forum, so it'd be only kind to make sure you don't inadvertently cause offence. I'm so sensitive that I had to have two extra chocolate biscuits (AKA cookies) with my tea when I saw I was being dismissed as 'quite intelligent' by someone I've never met. They were very nice, by the way, and I wish you well in whatever the future brings you.

CassOle · 13/04/2026 16:22

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/04/2026 12:32

Oh yes, someone on Reddit apparently has made a spreadsheet 😂

Have they shared it? Can we have a looksee?

I'm just wondering whose sock I am.

DeanElderberry · 13/04/2026 16:38

I admit to morbid curiosity as to what the spreadsheet records. Does it extend to other boards, so the curious know what my favourite tea is, what I think of Mary-Lou Trelawney, and what my Chronophoto scores are?

ProfessorBinturong · 13/04/2026 16:39

I've just sorted my odd sock pile. Can I get those added to the spreadsheet as well?

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 13/04/2026 17:12

ThatBlackCat · 13/04/2026 10:59

People on this (UK) site will often reply with just "quite!" in response to a poster to signal agreement. I always thought 'quite!' was a Brit was of saying hear hear!

Quite.

TheKeatingFive · 13/04/2026 17:58

DeanElderberry · 13/04/2026 16:38

I admit to morbid curiosity as to what the spreadsheet records. Does it extend to other boards, so the curious know what my favourite tea is, what I think of Mary-Lou Trelawney, and what my Chronophoto scores are?

what I think of Mary-Lou Trelawney

Absolute pain in the arse?

EdithStourton · 13/04/2026 18:12

NoWordForFluffy · 13/04/2026 13:47

I won't venture onto there much, despite having a dog. It's properly scary! 😬

It's not just me then!
The first time I ever posted on there, linking someone with a puller to a great explanation of a method that had worked for me and my dog, I got what felt like the most massive bollocking.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/04/2026 18:13

I don’t think anyone else has actually seen it or the workings, it was just used to claim that there aren’t many genuine posters here.

EdithStourton · 13/04/2026 18:16

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/04/2026 18:13

I don’t think anyone else has actually seen it or the workings, it was just used to claim that there aren’t many genuine posters here.

Damn.
If I'm a sock puppet, I want to know which fascist billionaire I should be complaining to for the non-arrival of the bank transfers.

DeanElderberry · 13/04/2026 18:28

TheKeatingFive · 13/04/2026 17:58

what I think of Mary-Lou Trelawney

Absolute pain in the arse?

hmm, does that mean you have a spreadsheet too? Because I don't see how you could possibly have guessed . . .

TheKeatingFive · 13/04/2026 18:30

DeanElderberry · 13/04/2026 18:28

hmm, does that mean you have a spreadsheet too? Because I don't see how you could possibly have guessed . . .

😭

JanesLittleGirl · 13/04/2026 18:49

EdithStourton · 13/04/2026 18:16

Damn.
If I'm a sock puppet, I want to know which fascist billionaire I should be complaining to for the non-arrival of the bank transfers.

Sadly Edith, sock puppets don't qualify for payments from fascist billionaires. These payments all go to the sock puppeteers.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

EdithStourton · 13/04/2026 18:55

JanesLittleGirl · 13/04/2026 18:49

Sadly Edith, sock puppets don't qualify for payments from fascist billionaires. These payments all go to the sock puppeteers.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Well, that's it.
I'm resigning!

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