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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour draws up equality law revamp that will inflict ‘socialism’ on Britain

136 replies

IwantToRetire · 29/03/2026 21:38

Sir Keir Starmer’s government is drawing up new statutory guidance that critics say amounts to a “war on the middle class”.

Under the plans, public sector bodies will have a new “socio-economic duty” imposed on them, meaning that all decisions they make must strive to reduce inequality in society.

The policy would lead to benefits claimants and deprived families being prioritised for taxpayer-funded services, with the middle classes pushed to the back of the queue, according to the Conservatives.

The socio-economic duty has been dubbed “Harman’s law” after Baroness Harman, the former Labour deputy leader who originally brought it in as part of the Equality Act in 2010.

It included a clause that required public bodies to “have due regard to the desirability of exercising [their functions] in a way that is designed to reduce the inequalities of outcome which result from socio-economic disadvantage”.

The Tories kept the Act when they won the election later that year, but scrapped the socio-economic element, with Theresa May, then home secretary, describing it as “ridiculous”.

Full article at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/03/29/labour-equality-law-revamp-inflict-socialism-britain/

And at https://archive.is/397ko

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/03/29/labour-equality-law-revamp-inflict-socialism-britain

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 30/03/2026 11:42

Because this is a Trojan horse.

Shedmistress · 30/03/2026 11:48

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 30/03/2026 11:42

Because this is a Trojan horse.

Exactly.

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 11:56

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:31

Its so silly when people say there are no such things as transpeople. Of course there are.

What there are is people who, for whatever reason, have adopted a contemporary, post-modernistic identity. Nobody is the opposite sex to that which they are. We are all either male or female.

People can present as they wish, but it doesn't make them into a unique or specific category of human being. People have experimented with self expression for millenia - before the trans concept was invented in recent decades.'Trans' is nothing but a framing device; a catalogue of terms for describing feelings and imagination.

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 12:00

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:38

Sure. But there are people who exist with a particular view on their sex/gender and the label for such people is trans(gender). They exist. Whatever you think about them, they exist as a group. Arguing otherwise is just weird.

Yes, but nobody is compelled to accept their self definition, especially when it flies in the face of reality. Self definition is a private matter.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:27

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 11:56

What there are is people who, for whatever reason, have adopted a contemporary, post-modernistic identity. Nobody is the opposite sex to that which they are. We are all either male or female.

People can present as they wish, but it doesn't make them into a unique or specific category of human being. People have experimented with self expression for millenia - before the trans concept was invented in recent decades.'Trans' is nothing but a framing device; a catalogue of terms for describing feelings and imagination.

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Trans people exist. Your agreement with them is totally moot. It doesnt matter how you group or define them, a bunch of people exist who feel they were "assigned the wrong sex at birth" etc. They exist. Stop being silly.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:27

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 12:00

Yes, but nobody is compelled to accept their self definition, especially when it flies in the face of reality. Self definition is a private matter.

You dont have to agree with their self definition. But they are real people who exist the same as you and me. They dont not exist 🤣

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 12:33

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:27

You dont have to agree with their self definition. But they are real people who exist the same as you and me. They dont not exist 🤣

Yes, people exist...but nobody is the opposite sex to that which they are. They can refer to themselves as 'trans' if they wish, but nobody else is compelled to use that term, nor use made-up 'pronouns', nor share in this private belief about themselves.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:35

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 12:33

Yes, people exist...but nobody is the opposite sex to that which they are. They can refer to themselves as 'trans' if they wish, but nobody else is compelled to use that term, nor use made-up 'pronouns', nor share in this private belief about themselves.

Trans people exist. Say it to yourself in the mirror. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Keep repeating it until it gets through. Trans people exist. Nothing I say or think can exonerate their existence. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Over and over until it sinks in. They aren't imaginary. They exist and are real. Trans people exist.

WarriorN · 30/03/2026 12:37

MyThreeWords · 30/03/2026 08:05

I got things a bit wrong in my previous post - the duty wasn't abolished, it was simply never 'commenced'. The act has always provided for this duty to be implemented, but successive Tory govts refused to, because it was an embarrassment to their mission of eroding services.

It looks like one of the factors behind the renewed push to commence it is the findings of the Covid inquiry, which showed how the differential effects on people of the pandemic were shaped by socio-economic inequality.

Assessing inequality isn't 'socialism'. It is a pragmatic part of the self-monitoring of any efficient and principled government.

And although the duty is embedded in the Ewuality Act, I don't think that it has bearings on the current failure to implement guidance relating to single-sex spaces. It's not as if the duty makes poverty a protected characteristic -- it is a different dimension of the act.

There is useful info about the duty here: https://justfair.org.uk/campaigns-2/1forequality/

Quite.

I live in the NE where socioeconomic conditions are lower than most of the rest of the country and rates of lots of lifestyle diseases are very high.

When they were relating Covid death rates it was always highest up here.

Taxi driver was ranting about the ‘myth of white privilege’ the other day and quite frankly, after 25 years of teaching the bottom 1% of the bottom 1% socioeconomically and SEND speaking, I agree with him.

(His solution was more and better football in school. Bring back the bagnell cup or something.)

Shedmistress · 30/03/2026 12:40

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:35

Trans people exist. Say it to yourself in the mirror. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Keep repeating it until it gets through. Trans people exist. Nothing I say or think can exonerate their existence. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Over and over until it sinks in. They aren't imaginary. They exist and are real. Trans people exist.

Totally not a cult right?

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:41

Shedmistress · 30/03/2026 12:40

Totally not a cult right?

No it's not a cult to admit that trans people exist. Wow.

Igneococcus · 30/03/2026 12:55

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:27

Trans people exist. Your agreement with them is totally moot. It doesnt matter how you group or define them, a bunch of people exist who feel they were "assigned the wrong sex at birth" etc. They exist. Stop being silly.

If it doesn't matter how we define them why are we told that misgendering is literal violence?

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 12:56

Are you for real?

Nobody here will chant mantras in a display of moronic group think, even if you are happy to. Have you ever read '1984'?

DameProfessorIDareSay · 30/03/2026 12:57

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:35

Trans people exist. Say it to yourself in the mirror. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Keep repeating it until it gets through. Trans people exist. Nothing I say or think can exonerate their existence. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Over and over until it sinks in. They aren't imaginary. They exist and are real. Trans people exist.

Be careful everyone, if you do this in front of a mirror then India Willyboy will appear and make himself at home in your car 😁

EasternStandard · 30/03/2026 12:58

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:35

Trans people exist. Say it to yourself in the mirror. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Keep repeating it until it gets through. Trans people exist. Nothing I say or think can exonerate their existence. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Over and over until it sinks in. They aren't imaginary. They exist and are real. Trans people exist.

Ahem not the best example

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/03/2026 12:58

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:41

No it's not a cult to admit that trans people exist. Wow.

You are out of your depth here.

Shedmistress · 30/03/2026 13:00

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:41

No it's not a cult to admit that trans people exist. Wow.

Your mantras are about a decade too late.

MyAmpleSheep · 30/03/2026 13:10

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:35

Trans people exist. Say it to yourself in the mirror. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Keep repeating it until it gets through. Trans people exist. Nothing I say or think can exonerate their existence. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Over and over until it sinks in. They aren't imaginary. They exist and are real. Trans people exist.

exonerate

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

GinaWhoLikesADrink · 30/03/2026 13:14

Shedmistress · 30/03/2026 13:03

Reminds me of this

DEFINITELY NOT A CULT 😂

zurigo · 30/03/2026 13:16

Right here, in a nutshell, is why so many ambitious, highly qualified, skilled and well-paid people are leaving this country - because they are constantly clobbered by this wretched government and punished for having made a success of their lives.

When you continually reward the net takers while picking the pockets of net contributors you perpetuate a system where it pays to sit at home and not contribute.

ElizaMulvil · 30/03/2026 13:17

sesquipedalian · 29/03/2026 22:43

The article states, “In practice, they warn that this could lead to middle-class families being discriminated against when it comes to school places, police resources and hospital and GP appointments.”
So the very people who pay for all this will not be able to avail themselves of state services. What, I wonder, will happen when all those who pay in decide they have had enough, and take their money and talents elsewhere? Already, there is a worrying exodus of young, qualified people. If I were the government, I would be most concerned about the fact that “In the UK, approximately 46.7% of individuals live in households that are net contributors—meaning they pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits—as of the financial year ending (FYE) 2024, according to Office for National Statistics data” - which means more than half live in households that take more than they contribute.

The poorest are working for poverty wages often in grim working conditions. Looking after our old, working in insecure jobs etc. , ensuring the wealthy can make bigger profits.That's how the poorest subsidise the rest of us and in particular the billionaires who avoid tax by offshoring their wealth.
Remember the richest 50 families in the UK own more than the poorest 50 per cent of the population. 34 million people.

zurigo · 30/03/2026 13:18

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:35

Trans people exist. Say it to yourself in the mirror. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Keep repeating it until it gets through. Trans people exist. Nothing I say or think can exonerate their existence. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Over and over until it sinks in. They aren't imaginary. They exist and are real. Trans people exist.

Mentally ill people who are convinced they are the opposite sex exist.

WarriorN · 30/03/2026 13:40

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:35

Trans people exist. Say it to yourself in the mirror. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Keep repeating it until it gets through. Trans people exist. Nothing I say or think can exonerate their existence. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Over and over until it sinks in. They aren't imaginary. They exist and are real. Trans people exist.

this is satire, right?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 30/03/2026 14:18

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 12:35

Trans people exist. Say it to yourself in the mirror. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Keep repeating it until it gets through. Trans people exist. Nothing I say or think can exonerate their existence. Trans people exist. Trans people exist. Over and over until it sinks in. They aren't imaginary. They exist and are real. Trans people exist.

Whatever you say. Enjoy. Have a lovely time.