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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Labour draws up equality law revamp that will inflict ‘socialism’ on Britain

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IwantToRetire · 29/03/2026 21:38

Sir Keir Starmer’s government is drawing up new statutory guidance that critics say amounts to a “war on the middle class”.

Under the plans, public sector bodies will have a new “socio-economic duty” imposed on them, meaning that all decisions they make must strive to reduce inequality in society.

The policy would lead to benefits claimants and deprived families being prioritised for taxpayer-funded services, with the middle classes pushed to the back of the queue, according to the Conservatives.

The socio-economic duty has been dubbed “Harman’s law” after Baroness Harman, the former Labour deputy leader who originally brought it in as part of the Equality Act in 2010.

It included a clause that required public bodies to “have due regard to the desirability of exercising [their functions] in a way that is designed to reduce the inequalities of outcome which result from socio-economic disadvantage”.

The Tories kept the Act when they won the election later that year, but scrapped the socio-economic element, with Theresa May, then home secretary, describing it as “ridiculous”.

Full article at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/03/29/labour-equality-law-revamp-inflict-socialism-britain/

And at https://archive.is/397ko

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/03/29/labour-equality-law-revamp-inflict-socialism-britain

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nauticant · 30/03/2026 08:13

@MyThreeWordshas it. The socio-economic duty is present in the Equality Act 2010 as section 1:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/1

As I understand things, the government intends to write the guidance referred to in that section to give it force. As the guidance appears to be a devolved matter that would be in England with Scotland and Wales having their devolved powers to write their own guidance.

TeenagersAngst · 30/03/2026 08:13

Hedgehogforshort · 30/03/2026 00:54

I do not usually engage to much with political posts, because i am a homeless socialist.

I found as i have gotten older that i recognise the whole omnicause stuff, i find myself often not agreeing with either side on certain issues (where there are sides) and having no alternative solution to mind.

For example the Palestinian situation.

But on this post i would like to suggest that a large proportion of people receiving benefits are in work.

the issue to me is low wages especially for city dwellers and service sector workers.

I think Churchill once said that businesses who cannot afford to pay a decent wage have no business being in business.

I don’t know the stats but would be interested to understand how many people on UC and also in work are working part time not full time.

That is as much of an issue as low wages are. People choosing part time and only as few hours as they can to still access benefits. I’m not saying it’s deliberate for malicious reasons, may well be for childcare reasons or that they are less well off working full time without benefits- what we all know as the benefits trap. That’s a huge issue for the UK as it limits productivity.

TeenagersAngst · 30/03/2026 08:16

midgetastic · 29/03/2026 23:03

Well the principle of making a more equal society and ensuring that those at the bottom have food, warm safe housing , and a chance improve their life seems a good thing to me

and yes you have to take from the top sometimes
and yes the middle may see the gap between middle and bottom reduces - although for real equality its the gap between top and bottom that matters - and I guess that’s what’s scaring the toffs and so the want to make sure everyone is scared

What happens when those at the bottom become a larger group than those at the top? We have more net recipients than we have contributors in the UK.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/03/2026 08:17

How can they restrict police services to poorer people? How can we go private for that? What are we paying our vast taxes for? If middle classes aren't even able to be protected now and their safety is secondary, what's the point of this government if it doesn't govern for the whole country?

I think Labour have gone nuts.

EasternStandard · 30/03/2026 08:19

ProudAmberTurtle · 30/03/2026 07:35

He sees the Green Party as the bigger immediate threat than Reform, because if they do well at Labour's expense in the May elections then Starmer is out. By going far left he thinks he's taking them on and making it too difficult for Labour to oust him and replace him with someone seen as more left wing.

It's entirely performative, but the result will be detrimental to the electorate and he'll still lose his job anyway.

Yep McSweeney has gone and Starmer is now at the bidding of the left in the party,

Local elections will be another test, they could go in the other direction.

JoanOgden · 30/03/2026 08:22

Activating the socio-economic duty in the Equality Act was a Labour manifesto commitment, I think, and absolutely nothing to do with sex/gender. Wales and Scotland have activated it already.

Improving outcomes for people from disadvantaged backgrounds is not a bad thing and the Telegraph article is ludicrously overblown. In practice though I suspect that doing this will just lead to more bureaucratic hoops and no differences to people's lives.

There's an EHRC research article about it here: https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/media-centre/news/ehrc-publishes-new-research-socio-economic-duty-implementation-ahead-introduction

PiMCA · 30/03/2026 08:22

Reducing inequality? Disgusting!

Shedmistress · 30/03/2026 08:27

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 07:58

Maybe there is a overlap with people very concerned about "sex related issues" (read: trans stuff) and those who are are fearful of equality

There is no such thing as equality so in that way, as there is also no such thing as 'trans' you may be onto something there.

Shedmistress · 30/03/2026 08:28

When politicans try to orchestrate 'equality' they often mean 'for you not for them'.

And when the shit hits the fan as it will do, the rich will fuck off, they are never likely to give up their wedge for the poorest, not gonna happen.

So there is even less to go round.

The system in moden countries that is supposed to tax the rich and provide for the poor - doesn't work.
The NHS which is supposed to give a baseline care to everyone - completely broken.
Housing - well is there even a word for that shitshow?
The money available from Council Tax - where does that go? Policing tweets? Brilliant.
Councils going into administration - what magic equality wand is going to fix those?

If the Labour government are going to put more onus on already busted flushes the result is likely to not be equality that's for sure.

This is a back slapping 'aren't we such great socialists' that is never going to resolve real issues.

Ernestina123 · 30/03/2026 08:28

TeenagersAngst · 30/03/2026 08:13

I don’t know the stats but would be interested to understand how many people on UC and also in work are working part time not full time.

That is as much of an issue as low wages are. People choosing part time and only as few hours as they can to still access benefits. I’m not saying it’s deliberate for malicious reasons, may well be for childcare reasons or that they are less well off working full time without benefits- what we all know as the benefits trap. That’s a huge issue for the UK as it limits productivity.

I believe it also benefits some employers because they do not have to pay employer NICS if staff work less than a specific number of hours.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:30

TeenagersAngst · 30/03/2026 08:16

What happens when those at the bottom become a larger group than those at the top? We have more net recipients than we have contributors in the UK.

Lol we've always been a larger group. They just take some of our very little money to fund everything anyway so there are even more people at the bottom. Yes, it's bloody crowded down here. And you still take from the system when you're at the top. It isn't as if you JUST contribute and you often get more out of the system than anyone else, too.

EasternStandard · 30/03/2026 08:31

PiMCA · 30/03/2026 08:22

Reducing inequality? Disgusting!

Have Labour’s policies been working as planned so far? Growth hit zero in January and unemployment particularly youth unemployment is up.

They keep squashing aspiration and getting worse results.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:31

Shedmistress · 30/03/2026 08:27

There is no such thing as equality so in that way, as there is also no such thing as 'trans' you may be onto something there.

Its so silly when people say there are no such things as transpeople. Of course there are.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/03/2026 08:32

Realistically most people vote for a government that benefits themselves and their families in some way or at least doesn't shaft them too much. Labour may be attempting (however misguided their attempts) to benefit the poor to get their vote (although looking at recent polling, the poor don't vote Labour any more, rather Reform).

But what's in it for the middle class if their businesses are being taxed to the point that its not worth running one, there's no jobs for their kids, private education is being wrecked, farming is attacked. There's obviously arguments for and against doing those things but human nature would suggest that there's no stake in Labour's society for these people. And they are the ones paying the tax. So the social contract is breaking down.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/03/2026 08:34

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:31

Its so silly when people say there are no such things as transpeople. Of course there are.

Depends what you mean by "trans". There are people who are in the process of trying to change sex obviously. But none has yet succeeded.

EasternStandard · 30/03/2026 08:36

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:31

Its so silly when people say there are no such things as transpeople. Of course there are.

There’s men who don’t fit stereotypes and women too, that could just be accepted instead.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:36

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/03/2026 08:32

Realistically most people vote for a government that benefits themselves and their families in some way or at least doesn't shaft them too much. Labour may be attempting (however misguided their attempts) to benefit the poor to get their vote (although looking at recent polling, the poor don't vote Labour any more, rather Reform).

But what's in it for the middle class if their businesses are being taxed to the point that its not worth running one, there's no jobs for their kids, private education is being wrecked, farming is attacked. There's obviously arguments for and against doing those things but human nature would suggest that there's no stake in Labour's society for these people. And they are the ones paying the tax. So the social contract is breaking down.

Maybe people have to stop expecting to continually gain, and expect to just live consistently. So maybe you don't own a business (because you can't afford the tax etc necessary to run an ethical one), so you earn relatively high wages as an employee for your entire working life and you are content with that.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/03/2026 08:37

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:30

Lol we've always been a larger group. They just take some of our very little money to fund everything anyway so there are even more people at the bottom. Yes, it's bloody crowded down here. And you still take from the system when you're at the top. It isn't as if you JUST contribute and you often get more out of the system than anyone else, too.

Well its not ideal is it. Do you know how much interest we pay on debt incurred to support those that can't support themselves as they don't have work. And Labour have killed the golden goose by wrecking the jobs market.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:38

EasternStandard · 30/03/2026 08:36

There’s men who don’t fit stereotypes and women too, that could just be accepted instead.

Sure. But there are people who exist with a particular view on their sex/gender and the label for such people is trans(gender). They exist. Whatever you think about them, they exist as a group. Arguing otherwise is just weird.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:39

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/03/2026 08:37

Well its not ideal is it. Do you know how much interest we pay on debt incurred to support those that can't support themselves as they don't have work. And Labour have killed the golden goose by wrecking the jobs market.

Why have we as a society raised people who can't support themselves? Sounds like Our Bad.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/03/2026 08:41

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:36

Maybe people have to stop expecting to continually gain, and expect to just live consistently. So maybe you don't own a business (because you can't afford the tax etc necessary to run an ethical one), so you earn relatively high wages as an employee for your entire working life and you are content with that.

Who do you think pays the wage of an "employee". We do actually need business owners! We can't all work for the state.

And most of the private sector (which pays for the public sector) is made up of SMEs. That's small business owners. Who pay those "relatively high wages as an employee for your entire working life"

"SMEs (small and medium-sized enterprises) make up 99.9% of the UK private sector business population, totalling roughly 5.5 to 5.7 million businesses. These enterprises employ approximately 60% of the private sector workforce (16.6-16.9 million people) and generate over 50% of all private sector turnover"

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/03/2026 08:44

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:39

Why have we as a society raised people who can't support themselves? Sounds like Our Bad.

Well that's the question isnt it.

I'd firstly look to Labour's tax policies on employers NI. That's the main reason for the large spike in youth unemployment.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:44

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/03/2026 08:41

Who do you think pays the wage of an "employee". We do actually need business owners! We can't all work for the state.

And most of the private sector (which pays for the public sector) is made up of SMEs. That's small business owners. Who pay those "relatively high wages as an employee for your entire working life"

"SMEs (small and medium-sized enterprises) make up 99.9% of the UK private sector business population, totalling roughly 5.5 to 5.7 million businesses. These enterprises employ approximately 60% of the private sector workforce (16.6-16.9 million people) and generate over 50% of all private sector turnover"

Most people who are complaining don't have a sustainable business if they have to pay an ethical amount of tax or offer basic employee rights.

EasternStandard · 30/03/2026 08:44

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:36

Maybe people have to stop expecting to continually gain, and expect to just live consistently. So maybe you don't own a business (because you can't afford the tax etc necessary to run an ethical one), so you earn relatively high wages as an employee for your entire working life and you are content with that.

Who is employing the employees if you’ve / Labour have hammered the businesses?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/03/2026 08:46

GlovedhandsCecilia · 30/03/2026 08:44

Most people who are complaining don't have a sustainable business if they have to pay an ethical amount of tax or offer basic employee rights.

"Ethical" for whom? The person doing the actual work? Basic economic sense would suggest that its good to incentivise rather than penalise the people who earn the money keeping this country afloat? And who pay all these benefits and public sector wages?