Disappointed at Andrew Garfield remarks about JKR

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In recent press for the Magic Faraway Tree, Andrew Garfield was trying to make the point that people who worked on HP projects should be respected for their art. He refused to use JKR name, and called her "she should remain nameless".

This for some reason has hit me a bit harder than I thought it would, and I am confused as to why. His PR is very rainbow-adjacent i.e. does Drag-race. He has always has picked "sensitive-man roles" that appeal to men rather than women. So even if he isn't actully gay-gay, he obviously much prefers the company of men- even when they are dressed as women. So there really is no reason for me to think that he actually cares about women and their safety and dignity at all.

Maybe because we are the same-ish age and similar cultural backgrounds that I thought he would have seen through all the misogynist bullshit. I think its fine to say you disagree with JKR but to demonise her to the same level as Voldemort... seems a bit.. culty?

Re Andrew Garfield, it’s clear he sees himself as a #bekind and inclusive person. His whole identity rests on being a ‘progressive’ thinker. The kind of man to as likely wear a t-shirt that said ‘l’m a feminist’ as much as wearing one that said ‘protect the dolls’. Without thinking through the implications.

Entrenched in Hollywood liberalism and living a rarified life completely removed from domestic refuges, prisons, hospital wards, or even any ordinary experience of toilets, changing rooms, or spas.

Hollywood has either been manipulated by TRAs (the Wachowski brothers) or bought into gender ideology on the back of inclusivity but underpinned by a dose of misogyny. It’s a shock for them to face an issue that requires some thinking when, for years, actors have been lauded for speaking out on causes like women’s rights, the environment, civil rights. Now they’ve been caught out, like others, in naively believing trans ‘rights’ was similar.

This one issue really has stumped the so-called intelligentsia.

In the kindest way possible please don’t speak for all rape victims. I am sorry you experienced that and I am glad you are perfectly comfortable in mixed sex toilets but you don’t get to tell me what I should be comfortable with. I also have been raped and sexually assaulted and I’m sick to the back teeth of being told my concerns are secondary to someone else’s feelings of being validated.

But that's not a woman, I'm not trying to be perdantic, I'm literally just saying seeing human beings as placeholders for roles that are unseen and unpaid, is not the same as seeing that we have intrinsic rights outside of those roles that are defined by, maintained by and solely benefit, the patriarchal systems that hold us down, exploit us and then deny our very essence

The woman could have suffered an horrendous injury in those boxing matches. If any of us saw that on the street, we would be horrified

I don't think anyone other than biological females should be competing in women's sports, to be clear. But can you recall a Khelif fight where the opponent was noticably physically outmatched? Let alone to the point that we'd be horrified if we saw it on the street?

Khelif has had close to 60 amateur bouts, and has only stopped 8 opponents. None of those 60 opponents suffered horrendous injuries, or were knocked unconscious. There isn't evidence to suggest that Khelif posed some kind of additional risk to opponents as a fighter.

But, instead we are supposed to show sympathy for the man who has got into the ring, knowing he was male.

I sympathize with anyone who boxed Khalif unaware of the issue, and anyone who felt compelled to compete against someone they believed had an unfair advantage. Neither of those are ok.

But to claim that Khalif is a man, who deliberately competed against women knowing that he was a man is false. Khalif was born and raised a woman. It is believed - but not yet established - that she carries the SRY gene. This caused her to have higher levels of testosterone, which were medically reduced to the standard required by the testing bodies. It does not make her a man, and no credible test has ever established that she is biologically male.

Multiple female Olympians have tested positive for the SRY gene over the years, while being confirmed to be biologically female and cleared to compete.

I will have sympathy for Khelif until it's established that she's done anything wrong.

Khelif is confirmed to have 5ard. This DSD only affects males. Khelif is male.

Disappointed by Claire Foy too, normally love her work. It's a tangent again for another thread but I also don't think people from a position of majority social position of power (White British) can decide what might or might not be worth of a cancellation on racist source material, or as I'm calling this, an uncancellation, (I'm tweaking Orwell) . It's exactly the same process behind a male bodied person deciding for us what is and is not a threat to a female bodied woman living in an environment where her lived experience is invalidated and she's told her opinions by males.

The whole thing is a shit show. It should be The As Far Away As Possible Tree.

In a decade we'll look back and be mystified.

Can we just refer to him from now on as TSMPG (the second most popular Garfield)

Who is Andrew Garfield, and why should we care much about what he says?

You may not have felt vulnerable, but other women would have done.

Do they not count? Is it only your reaction that matters?

Surely you understand that you don't get to give consent on behalf of other women?

Women have single sex spaces for their own safety and dignity. On what grounds would we let one specific group of men into them?

I'm also not a cis woman..I'm just the only kind of woman there is. Do not label is all as such please ty

'Non e giusto'

We have to stop listening to actors. Most of them are thick as mince.

He's awful in the Faraway Tree movie. Strange because I thought he was a relatively decent actor, but I haven't seen him in anything for a while, maybe I was mistaken. 🤷‍♀️

I'll never understand the out pouring of sympathy for cheating men like Khelif, but never a mention of the women he punched, the women he denied an Olympic place to, the women he took Olympic medals from.

Is it just because he's a man and people are programmed to care about men more?

Khelif is confirmed to have 5ard.

This has not been confirmed. At this stage it's just speculation.

It has been confirmed. Lab reports have been published. Even Khelif has confirmed he has a Y chromosome.

If he had CAIS he wouldn't need to reduce his testosterone

I saw this interview and my heart sank as I was looking forward to taking the kids to it, but I don’t really want to watch it knowing what a smug know-it-all he was in that interview. It’s me who’ll be organising the cinema trip, and I can’t be bothered now, the shine has gone off it. Stupid to comment so patronisingly like that at a promo interview for a film aimed at British families. Most cinema going over the Easter hols will be organised by British women, and they are generally not in favour of gender ideology and certainly not in favour of over-privileged, over-opinionated, self satisfied men.

I'd say any sympathy has been balanced out by attacks and vitriol, inside and outside the boxing world.

So of course there's a mention and consideration for Khelif's opponents. I think everyone in this conversation has expressed sympathy for them.

But the fact is, Khelif passed every test required in order to compete at the Olympics, so until it's established that she wasn't eligible to compete as a woman and is stripped of her medals, they're rightfully hers.

The 'test' to compete in the Olympics was an F on his passport. This is following two failed sex eligibility tests for previous competitions

You know all this of course.

Yet the sympathy for the man who knowing went into a ring and beat up women continues.

I have no words really. It's been utterly and depressing eye opening,

It has been confirmed. Lab reports have been published.

I'm sorry, but it simply hasn't.

Even Khelif has confirmed he has a Y chromosome.

Khelif has done no such thing.

Can you provide a source for either of the above?

Can't say I'm aware of him. I don't tend to watch mainstream or american films. I prefer European/Iranian/Turkish etc But , even so, surely the only way anyone would know what such actors have said is if they are following social media - the function of which is to generate gossip and tittle tattle and promote vacuous self revelation.

The lab reports gave been published in the media

It not having been formally admitted by Khelif's team though it having been confirmed by sex testing is a different matter.

Khelif's team have maintained the denial throughout ( it won them a gold medal), even though their behaviour, and Khelif's obvious masculine appearance and physicality, confirm otherwise.

Khelif has been presenting, living ( socially) and training as a male for many years.

Beatings will continue until morale improves.

He didn’t because he refused to be tested

To give full context, this was thirty years ago. When they say 'trans people have always existed', this is what comes to mind.