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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Zoe Williams in The Guardian on Girl Guides removing Trans Girls

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Arran2024 · 27/03/2026 15:34

Did she do any research for this article? If so, she should have discovered that it's not as easy as the Guides just "changing their name". It is all about their charitable aims. Anyway, typical pro trans girl inclusion article from ZW.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/mar/27/girlguiding-trans-members-supreme-court?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Girlguiding didn’t have to do this to its trans members. There was another way | Zoe Williams

Girlguiding’s response to last year’s supreme court ruling is not the humane option – and changes the organisation’s identity, says Guardian columnist Zoe Williams

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/mar/27/girlguiding-trans-members-supreme-court?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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AccordingToWhom · 20/04/2026 17:14

Two very concerning men really want to keep boys in the Girl Guides: Sarah Jane Baker and Melissa Poulton (there are videos in the linked tweets).

https://x.com/i/status/2043985420002656661

https://x.com/i/status/2000213911052644704

https://x.com/i/status/2046240887466803551

Zoe Williams in The Guardian on Girl Guides removing Trans Girls
Zoe Williams in The Guardian on Girl Guides removing Trans Girls
AccordingToWhom · 28/04/2026 17:13

Why can't they just leave little girls alone ffs!

"If you have a daughter in Girlguiding who says she’s been designing badges, it might be worth asking a few follow-up questions.

Because activists are circulating a template encouraging girls to design badges for Pride month.

These are not official Girlguiding materials, but the work of the group Guiders Against Trans Exclusion (GATE), which opposes the new rules excluding boys - including those who 'identify' as girls - from Girlguiding."

https://x.com/i/status/2049131691533369625

Their Instagram account:

https://www.instagram.com/guidersagainsttransexclusion?igsh=N3h5a2RrOWZxOHk3

Janet Murray (@jan_murray) on X

If you have a daughter in Girlguiding who says she’s been designing badges, it might be worth asking a few follow-up questions. Because activists are circulating a template encouraging girls to design badges for Pride month. These are not official Gi...

https://x.com/i/status/2049131691533369625

LeftieRightsHoarder · 29/04/2026 02:13

GallantKumquat · 27/03/2026 18:43

Setting aside whether Girl Guides could just change their name and their remit to serve both sexes (probably not), the fact is that that's not acceptable to TRAs - what they want is is single sex service that affirms their identities not access to the service itself. Anything less would have drawn just as much criticism from TRAs, and Zoe Williams would dutifully select some other angle to criticise them on.

Exactly.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 29/04/2026 02:21

Can even ZW really think the problem of boys in Girlguiding would be solved by changing the name to something unisex? When the whole point is that it was set up for girls to flourish in in a male-free space? Is she just pretending to be so dim?

I miss the Guardian. But reading the dishonest nonsense it now spouts is too painful.

99bottlesofkombucha · 29/04/2026 02:25

Pearl69 · 29/03/2026 17:33

I’m a Guiding Leader too. I’m relieved about the ruling but the emails and communication from HQ are embarrassing. All this hand wringing and expensive consulting , yet GGUK don’t even know how many members are affected, For any members that do have to leave, I hope they’ll find their home in Scouts and are happy there.

We to have long waiting lists so I looks the the majority of our parents and carers are ignoring HQ and supporting local Guiders who are just cracking on doing what we do - girl lead activities in a girl only space.

Have you suggested to all the complainers that there’s an opening for them to establish their own group, the girlesque guides would be a suitable name?

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