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borntobequiet · 22/04/2026 09:53

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 09:36

From the originally linked 'news' article:

Her father said he raised concerns repeatedly with the school but claims his complaints were ignored, adding: “The school hasn’t told parents or pupils this is even happening, let alone asked permission. And I know girls at the school are taught that they should accept trans-identifying boys as girls without question."

And that last sentence,the one I've highlighted, is the true psychology at work here; a rabid anti-trans ideological stance that means the father is incapable of taking an inclusive, rational stance. It's little wonder the school has dismissed the hateful rantings of these parents as 'vexatious'.

rabid

Dearie me.

Mmmnotsure · 22/04/2026 09:54

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 09:36

From the originally linked 'news' article:

Her father said he raised concerns repeatedly with the school but claims his complaints were ignored, adding: “The school hasn’t told parents or pupils this is even happening, let alone asked permission. And I know girls at the school are taught that they should accept trans-identifying boys as girls without question."

And that last sentence,the one I've highlighted, is the true psychology at work here; a rabid anti-trans ideological stance that means the father is incapable of taking an inclusive, rational stance. It's little wonder the school has dismissed the hateful rantings of these parents as 'vexatious'.

How interesting. I read your comment until "the true psychology at work here" bit, and thought, absolutely, that is exactly what the school are doing. They are gaslighting girls, telling them that the evidence of their eyes and ears and everything they know intellectually and instinctively is wrong, and that they have to obey and accept another's reality as their own.

And then I got to "rabid anti-trans" etc.

Rational stance - that's what those girls were taking.

Inclusive - not the be and end all of things to aspire to. If you include anything in a category to which it does not belong, you do not end up with a positive. All you have done is destroy the category by blowing it wide open.

Mmmnotsure · 22/04/2026 09:57

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"We...our posts"

Are you a group?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 22/04/2026 09:58

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 09:36

From the originally linked 'news' article:

Her father said he raised concerns repeatedly with the school but claims his complaints were ignored, adding: “The school hasn’t told parents or pupils this is even happening, let alone asked permission. And I know girls at the school are taught that they should accept trans-identifying boys as girls without question."

And that last sentence,the one I've highlighted, is the true psychology at work here; a rabid anti-trans ideological stance that means the father is incapable of taking an inclusive, rational stance. It's little wonder the school has dismissed the hateful rantings of these parents as 'vexatious'.

@ThePeachPombear I am rabidly obsessed with my daughter's safety and dignity, yes, if you find a father who isn't I'll show you a father who shouldn't be a parent.

And no - I am not capable of including males inside the term females, as that would be - irrational.

As for being hateful - I'll give you the one chance to take that back and edit it before me, and likely everyone, asks for your post to be removed.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 22/04/2026 09:58

Mmmnotsure · 22/04/2026 09:57

"We...our posts"

Are you a group?

It's the Borg TRA collective.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 22/04/2026 10:00

As a side note I am bloody annoyed that a post I made to say thank you to you all has been hijacked by a pillock.

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Mmmnotsure · 22/04/2026 10:01

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 22/04/2026 10:00

As a side note I am bloody annoyed that a post I made to say thank you to you all has been hijacked by a pillock.

Or possibly more than one pillock 🙂

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 10:02

Catiette · 22/04/2026 09:53

"rabid anti-trans ideological stance"
"hateful rantings"

If this is what you say about a group of parents who believe in single-sex spaces for their children, what language do you use to describe the minority of people out there who truly wish trans people actual, physical harm? I mean the genuine bigots who would swearily abuse trans people in person, and commit acts of violence against them? The ones who argue they should be forbidden any kind of recognition or support?

Because if you use those words for people using the word "boy" as the only way to emphasise that trans girls bodies are different to those of their daughters (which they are, of course, or why would they be trans girls?)...

...You've nothing left for the others. Nothing left to describe the kind of attitudes the Jews faced in Nazi Germany, or Uighur Muslims encounter in China, or the thinking that led to the brutal murder of 8000 men and boys in the Bosnian genocide. Don't these groups deserve the language necessary to describe the horrors they've faced? The above suggests that even "boy" is forbidden them by your standards, or at best reduced to meaning something different to how they would use it. Would you call surviving Bosniaks bigotted simply for using a word lets them verbalise their own understanding of what happened back then?

Hyperbole like yours is both ridiculous and dangerous.

Please don't degrade our language in this way.

It leave people unable to recognise or describe actual prejudice in its very worst forms.

Typical hysterical platitude.

To every sane person, the use of the term "rabid anti-trans ideological stance" in this context is very obviously neither overstated nor hyperbolic; you labour under that delusion because it is a stance to which you are fiercely - quite possibly rabidly and ideologically - opposed and so in your fevered delusion you attempt to conflate it. But you are, very clearly, tilting at windmills, dear.

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 10:04

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SeptimusSheep · 22/04/2026 10:06

They're definitely boys. They are male, and too young for any legal recognition as "women", whether or not you then want to argue that their gender identity should be more important than their sex.

DontStopMe · 22/04/2026 10:09

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 22/04/2026 09:20

No updates on the legal case just yet, few weeks to go I believe.

However my daughter and I are going somewhere brilliant and meeting important supportive people next week, I can't shed any details, yet again, sorry to tease, but I think it will be a valuable boost to my daughters confidence in all this (it's not wavering at all) and frankly makes me feel good as well :)

AND there is a care package of cards etc. arriving from the Solicitors as they have bundled it all together, very much looking forward to that, I will share pictures if appropriate

Not to mention another voucher which if my daughter can be organised enough, she might use and wear the clothes next week - huge thanks to the donor and EVERYONE who has, just blown away I really am.

Just wanted to repost this as it was immediately followed with attempts to disrupt and distract.

GrandPlanB · 22/04/2026 10:11

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 10:02

Typical hysterical platitude.

To every sane person, the use of the term "rabid anti-trans ideological stance" in this context is very obviously neither overstated nor hyperbolic; you labour under that delusion because it is a stance to which you are fiercely - quite possibly rabidly and ideologically - opposed and so in your fevered delusion you attempt to conflate it. But you are, very clearly, tilting at windmills, dear.

What's hysterical or rabid? Next you'll want people to believe black is white, the sky is green or that the earth is flat.

Dear.

teawamutu · 22/04/2026 10:12

I'd like to suggest that our pastel Bear friend's posts are not reported. They're such a good example of the thinking.

Catiette · 22/04/2026 10:12

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 10:02

Typical hysterical platitude.

To every sane person, the use of the term "rabid anti-trans ideological stance" in this context is very obviously neither overstated nor hyperbolic; you labour under that delusion because it is a stance to which you are fiercely - quite possibly rabidly and ideologically - opposed and so in your fevered delusion you attempt to conflate it. But you are, very clearly, tilting at windmills, dear.

Hah. Yup, definitely one of the more obvious attempts to disrupt useful discussion.

I have to say though, I'm chuffed with "fevered delusion" - such a good phrase, and spot on re: my feelings about today's to-do list - and also pleased by how unusually explicit the DARVO is here for any lurkers...

...but otherwise apologise for encouraging this particular visitor!

Schools, you and your daughter are amazing. Please pass on this hysterically rabid little cat's best wishes to her.

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 10:14

GrandPlanB · 22/04/2026 10:11

What's hysterical or rabid? Next you'll want people to believe black is white, the sky is green or that the earth is flat.

Dear.

You seem incapable of responding to the point.

Dear.

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 10:16

teawamutu · 22/04/2026 10:12

I'd like to suggest that our pastel Bear friend's posts are not reported. They're such a good example of the thinking.

We agree.

Highlighting the delusional thinking of the OP and, of course, the Usual Suspects on this board makes for a useful reference point; responses to statements often say a lot more than the original statement, don't you agree?

GrandPlanB · 22/04/2026 10:17

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 10:14

You seem incapable of responding to the point.

Dear.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Dear.

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 10:18

SeptimusSheep · 22/04/2026 10:06

They're definitely boys. They are male, and too young for any legal recognition as "women", whether or not you then want to argue that their gender identity should be more important than their sex.

Are you absolutely sure about that? Please develop that point.

CautiousLurker2 · 22/04/2026 10:19

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 22/04/2026 09:58

@ThePeachPombear I am rabidly obsessed with my daughter's safety and dignity, yes, if you find a father who isn't I'll show you a father who shouldn't be a parent.

And no - I am not capable of including males inside the term females, as that would be - irrational.

As for being hateful - I'll give you the one chance to take that back and edit it before me, and likely everyone, asks for your post to be removed.

This is it, really, isn’t it? My DH and I are rabid in our determination to protect our child and ensure at 21 (this week) she still doesn’t get access to surgery and hormones. Without our support for transitioning, our utter refusal to do anything but love her unconditionally as she physically is, she rails against us but will not actually go ahead with appointments at the Tavistock without us. This tells me that she is ambivalent, immature, scared and on some level knows the likelihood is that it won’t fix her. Even before the recent Finnish study.

We have had to make some decisions that she does not agree with in the hope that it keeps her alive and intact long enough to realise it is indepth psychiatric therapy she needs for her dysphoria and support for her very high needs as an AuDHDer with anxiety, depression and past/recurrent suicidal ideation etc. I am appalled that a person with an extensive psychiatric history can ever be considered for surgical intervention at all. And until this ideology is expunged from our schools and institutions, vulnerable young women like my child will continue to be exposed.

I cannot thank you and your daughter enough for what you are doing. It may prevent other families ending up on our journey, it may ensure that vulnerable YP like my child are never exposed, never at risk. It may ultimately save lives if cases like yours/hers ultimately lead to the dismantling of this movement and it’s influence on schools and the NHS.

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 10:20

GrandPlanB · 22/04/2026 10:17

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Dear.

On the contrary, dear.

We've made our points, dear. The fact you don't like them, dear, because they go against your delusional thinking don't stop them being facts.
You seem incapable of responding in a manner conducive to thoughtful discussion.

Dear.

borntobequiet · 22/04/2026 10:22

Mmmnotsure · 22/04/2026 10:01

Or possibly more than one pillock 🙂

Collective term?

A parcel of pillocks?
A plethora of pillocks?
A plentitude of pillocks?

Or, sadly non-alliterative, a rabidity of pillocks?

borntobequiet · 22/04/2026 10:23

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 10:02

Typical hysterical platitude.

To every sane person, the use of the term "rabid anti-trans ideological stance" in this context is very obviously neither overstated nor hyperbolic; you labour under that delusion because it is a stance to which you are fiercely - quite possibly rabidly and ideologically - opposed and so in your fevered delusion you attempt to conflate it. But you are, very clearly, tilting at windmills, dear.

Blah, blah, blah.

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 10:24

CautiousLurker2 · 22/04/2026 10:19

This is it, really, isn’t it? My DH and I are rabid in our determination to protect our child and ensure at 21 (this week) she still doesn’t get access to surgery and hormones. Without our support for transitioning, our utter refusal to do anything but love her unconditionally as she physically is, she rails against us but will not actually go ahead with appointments at the Tavistock without us. This tells me that she is ambivalent, immature, scared and on some level knows the likelihood is that it won’t fix her. Even before the recent Finnish study.

We have had to make some decisions that she does not agree with in the hope that it keeps her alive and intact long enough to realise it is indepth psychiatric therapy she needs for her dysphoria and support for her very high needs as an AuDHDer with anxiety, depression and past/recurrent suicidal ideation etc. I am appalled that a person with an extensive psychiatric history can ever be considered for surgical intervention at all. And until this ideology is expunged from our schools and institutions, vulnerable young women like my child will continue to be exposed.

I cannot thank you and your daughter enough for what you are doing. It may prevent other families ending up on our journey, it may ensure that vulnerable YP like my child are never exposed, never at risk. It may ultimately save lives if cases like yours/hers ultimately lead to the dismantling of this movement and it’s influence on schools and the NHS.

Edited

Well done for an impassioned response, but you're missing the crucial question; in the context of this thread, protect your child from what, precisely?

If the answer is, as we suspect, from dangers that you perceive to be present due to your own biases, then it might be time for a little self-reflection...

moto748e · 22/04/2026 10:24

No thread is safe, eh? Such a shame.

ThePeachPombear · 22/04/2026 10:25

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