Mixed sex changing rooms in a Brighton secondary school - part 3 - we're really cooking now

[SingleSexSpacesInSchools]

Hello friends.

I'll let the press do the talking...

https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-school-court-changing-rooms

I'd further add that efforts to start a bunfight and get this thread deleted should not be rewarded.

"No thread is safe, eh? Such a shame."

"Why can't be have threads where everyone nods along with the same ideology? Why do some edumacatid peeple has to go and spoil it by presenting opposing stances and then, when mindlessly attacked by us, refused to stand down?"

There, fixed your statement for you.

Is it compulsory to use the same sesquipedalian obfuscatory word-salad style of writing, or is that your own personal preference?

As a side note, I've just realised that I've not heard the term pillock since I lived in Brighton.

@SingleSexSpacesInSchools as ever, I stand with you and your daughter.

Just because something is 'inclusive' doesnt mean that it is always better.

It would be inclusive to allow all animals from the rest of the world into the UK, without check or hindrance.

However, this really would risk rabies...

(Side note, there has not been an indigenous case of rabies in the UK since 1902)

"Trans girls" are male; they have penis and testicles. And teenage levels of testosterone. This is why they don't get changed next to teenage girls.

Responsible adults know this. Adults who argue otherwise should have their hard drives checked.

I hope you and your daughter have a great time next week. I suspect it will be really good for her - there are some amazing, inspirational people involved in this area. Like the suffragettes, cometh the hour cometh the women.

Courage calls to courage.

@ThePeachPombear the last two words of the article you quoted in bold are “without question”. These you’ve highlighted as particularly awful in some way

I am genuinely confused. Are you (singular with delusions of royalty perhaps or your group) saying that you think teaching children to accept anything without question is a good thing? My kids have recently left school but critical thinking was a skill they were measured on throughout primary school and hopefully it was encouraged at secondary too.

I am baffled that you think unquestioned adherence to other people’s opinions is good for children

Sorry, @SingleSexSpacesInSchools, I contributed to the derailment. Congratulations to you and your DD. You demonstrated bravery and steadfast persistence in the face of reality-denying, illegal and harmful practice by the school, which I hope gets held up as an example of What Not To Do in such organisations in the future.

None of the school's response has been, in your deluded mind, "reality-denying" or "harmful practice". It is precisely that mindset - and the tribalistic ideology that goes with it - that creates the very situations you wish to avoid.

I had no idea Pillock was such a local term I shall use it with more pride :)

Thank you very much indeed.

And the great thing is I am really confident that this case will be a slam dunk, open and shut win.

#sadtimes Pom.

I am confused about the 'we' though. Is this a 'me, myself, and I' thing, or is it taking the efforts of multiple individuals to string these turgid and circular sentences together? Do you all hit post together, after a count of three or is that role determined by vote at committee level?

Also @SingleSexSpacesInSchools your situation and legal steps were the means of peaking my MIL.

She worked in education, mostly in an all girls school and retired 10 years ago, so was generally of the 'be kind' view. Guardian reader and BBC watcher.

I was discussing your case with her in the Easter break, and witnessed her real life moment of WTF.

Thank you

There’s a very familiar tone to some recent posts, reminding me strongly of baking equipment. Perhaps it’s a trans pastry-makers’ collective.

👏Thank you for saying this, and so well.

It needs to be said every time this hyperbole is presented. As it often is, particularly by those who talk of words as violence and yet don't see the contradiction.

A pomposity of pillocks?

A delusion of pillocks?

Ooo even better - I have long thought that the only thing holding the ideology together was that StoneWall managed to get "No Debate" in - but that of course backfired like a dam holding things back until it got too large and then the damn collapses, flooding the world with people saying "hang on a second..." I hope your MIL keeps watching.

It's a beautiful spring day OP. I hope you get a chance to enjoy it, which is exactly what I'm going to do. I'm sure as delightful pursuits go teasing anyone is a weird thing to have in the top ten never mind at no.1.

In answer, of course children should not be taught not to question anything;

I feel there are not enough nots in that sentence

In answer, of course children should not not be taught not not to question anything;

There fixed it

I hope you and your very brave & courageous daughter have the best time. I hope it and the care package she receives, makes her feel the support of the many, many people who are on her side and it gives her the strength to face the tough times ahead of her.

Beautifully put, and seconded!