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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Boxer Lin Yu-ting cleared to return after gender eligibility ruling

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Wonderknicks · 21/03/2026 18:33

Boxer Lin Yu-ting cleared to box
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/mar/21/olympic-champion-boxer-lin-yu-ting-cleared-to-return-to-ring-after-gender-ruling?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
Interesting last paragraph
Along with its appeal process, World Boxing said it offers additional analysis and evaluation for athletes with Y chromosome genetic material who wish to compete in the women’s categories, including genetic screening, hormonal profiles, anatomical examination and further evaluation of endocrine profiles by medical specialists.
Apologies if there is another thread, I couldn't see one.

Olympic champion boxer Lin Yu-ting cleared to return to ring after gender ruling

The Chinese Taipei Boxing Association said Lin Yu-ting’s return to international events is a “tremendous relief” after World Boxing ruled she can compete in female categories

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/mar/21/olympic-champion-boxer-lin-yu-ting-cleared-to-return-to-ring-after-gender-ruling?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

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Shortshriftandlethal · 21/03/2026 18:39

You can see his penis through his shorts.

Typical of the Guardian to be gloating in such a way.

TheSunjustcameout · 21/03/2026 19:45

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lcakethereforeIam · 21/03/2026 20:04

To be fair to Lin Yu-Ting and Imane Khelif neither of them are transwomen. Although the difference between a man identifying as a woman and a man identified as a woman seems to be a question for philosophers rather than doctors.

The article seems to be implying that Lin Yu-ting has a Y chromosome but World Boxing has taken other physiological aspects into account and assigned the boxer as female. It's not at all clear.

nauticant · 21/03/2026 20:18

It'll be interesting to see what happens if that boxer travels to the US to compete in the women's competition in the Olympics.

Wonderknicks · 21/03/2026 20:29

The article seems to be implying that Lin Yu-ting has a Y chromosome but World Boxing has taken other physiological aspects into account and assigned the boxer as female. It's not at all clear.
I agree, that's the impression I got from the last paragraph.

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NotBadConsidering · 21/03/2026 20:43

The line towards the end of the BBC article about “transparency” is laughable.

The only thing that makes sense medically is that he has partial androgen insensitivity syndrome and it has been ruled that the benefits of testosterone are minimal. Given his physical appearance, I think this is unlikely.

What is more likely is that the Chinese Taipei Boxing lawyers have successfully argued a legal technicality.

lcakethereforeIam · 21/03/2026 20:46

I thought Lin Yu-Ting was Taiwanese? I'm astonished the Chinese would be prepared to do him any favours.

Bobblebottle · 21/03/2026 21:02

So after all that furore men in the women's category is just going to carry on. Why can't World Boxing get its act together?

NotBadConsidering · 21/03/2026 21:17

lcakethereforeIam · 21/03/2026 20:46

I thought Lin Yu-Ting was Taiwanese? I'm astonished the Chinese would be prepared to do him any favours.

Chinese Taipei. That’s the name of Taiwan and the name of their boxing authority.

lcakethereforeIam · 21/03/2026 21:21

That's confusing. Thanks for clearing it up for me 😊

puffyisgood · 21/03/2026 21:25

They really need to have published criteria, in the same way that world athletics does.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 21/03/2026 21:43

What's the point of having the test if they're going to still give men who fail it a free pass into the women's category. 🤬

Hedgehogforshort · 21/03/2026 22:23

It is terrible if the articles can be relied on.

I do wish sports women would just refuse on masse to participate in any competition that he appears in.

or any other sport with an apparent man.

it is called collective action.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 21/03/2026 23:39

Bobblebottle · 21/03/2026 21:02

So after all that furore men in the women's category is just going to carry on. Why can't World Boxing get its act together?

Why can't World Boxing get its act together?

Politics? I wonder if World Boxing got the Olympics gig because they were more amenable to classifying men as women?

"Both Lin and Khelif had been disqualified from the 2023 World Championships by previous world governing body the International Boxing Association (IBA), which said they had "failed to meet the eligibility criteria for participating in women's competition".

The IBA was later stripped of its status by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) over integrity and governance issues, and the IOC ran boxing competitions at the Paris Games.

Since the 2024 Olympics, World Boxing has taken over the governance of the sport at Olympic level from the IBA and introduced a new eligibility policy in August 2025 that includes mandatory sex testing.

World Boxing has confirmed that Lin, who has missed a number of competitions since the policy was introduced, would now be eligible to compete at its events."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/articles/c20qjn3jp8lo

Taiwanese boxer Lin Yu-ting fighting in the women's welterweight final at the 2024 Olympic Games in Paris

Lin Yu-ting cleared to compete again by World Boxing after sex test

Chinese Taipei's Olympic champion Lin Yu-ting is cleared to compete again by World Boxing after undergoing the governing body's new sex test.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/articles/c20qjn3jp8lo

DrBlackbird · 22/03/2026 00:10

One step forward, two steps back. No one wants women to win.

Needspaceforlego · 22/03/2026 07:18

Is this part of the issue of Boxing having 2 international bodies at amateur level instead of 1.
IBA and WB?

Plus 4 professional Boxing bodies?
WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO.

JellySaurus · 22/03/2026 07:46

From the BBC article:

The test is used to detect a specific gene which World Boxing said "reveals the presence of the Y chromosome that is an indicator of male biological sex".

World Boxing's policy includes an appeal process so boxers that screen positive for the SRY gene can lodge an appeal and provide supporting evidence.

Does this imply that there have been two different tests? That these athletes might lack a Y chromosome but have an SRY gene?

anyolddinosaur · 22/03/2026 07:51

Lin Yu-ting presumably has a disorder of sexual development but one with either partial or complete androgen insensitivity. People with CAIS are usually regarded as female, PAIS not. If Lin Yu-ting has a penis he cant have one of the dads which leads to people with an sry gene being regarded as female.

Helleofabore · 22/03/2026 08:14

I suspect that the appeal focused on this part of the WB policy.

”Where Y chromosome genetic material (i.e. SRY gene) is detected
with suspicion of chromosomal abnormalities or an undetected
difference of sexual development (DSD), a boxer’s initial screens
will be immediately referred to clinical specialists for genetic
screening, hormonal profiles, anatomical examination, or other
evaluation of endocrine profiles or markers by medical specialists
to secure a diagnosis.”

https://worldboxing.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/World-Boxing-Sex-Eligibility-Policy_FINAL_20Aug25.pdf

https://worldboxing.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/World-Boxing-Sex-Eligibility-Policy_FINAL_20Aug25.pdf

anyolddinosaur · 22/03/2026 08:21

The question is really about whether the dsd means there is an unfair advantage or not. If they had applied this from the start I'd be more trusting of their classification now.

BettyBooper · 22/03/2026 08:24

From Emma Hilton on X

'Lot of stuff around males in female boxing right now. Rest assured, we are on it.'

🧐

Helleofabore · 22/03/2026 08:25

I am rather concerned that WB’s policy has been successfully challenged to allow this male boxer to compete.

I think that ‘androgenisation’ is going to need to be better determined if boxers such as Lin are being allowed to compete. That includes greater transparency into the how that is determined. What tests? What has been used as the baseline? Etc

One organisation found him to have the benefit of androgenisation (IBA) and WB initially did but successfully challenged the finding. This is inconsistent.

If Yu Ting is the forerunner for contesting these DSD policies, I suspect that studies into the physical advantages for those athletes with CAIS will start being done with the view of determining a tighter policy in the future. I suspected this would be coming later rather than sooner, however, it was always a discussion that had to be had eventually.

PermanentTemporary · 22/03/2026 08:26

Fundamentally good, in that at least there is a process. There are always going to be edge cases. Tbh I hoped the focus here would be on the process, not the individuals any more.

Helleofabore · 22/03/2026 08:29

PermanentTemporary · 22/03/2026 08:26

Fundamentally good, in that at least there is a process. There are always going to be edge cases. Tbh I hoped the focus here would be on the process, not the individuals any more.

That was never going to be the case though. The individuals are integral to the process. The individuals undergoing through will likely have unique outcomes that will be evaluated and discussed.