Women’s Hour - Transwoman Talking About Misogyny WTAF?

[DrBlackbird]

I’ve just clocked this as R4 on in the background but Nuala (of course) talking to a transwoman about misogyny?! I mean just what… Nuala asked about his experience of misogyny after transitioning. Apparently, nothing, not even misogyny, is allowed to be centred on women.

You sound amazing! Congratulations on your feat. I hope it offered all kinds of adventures and rewards. 😊

This is what I came here to say. The lived experience of growing up female is not something they’ll have experienced.

Also, contrary to what TRAs try to claim the vast majority of TiMs are obviously male, so even after transition will never experience what it’s like to be treated like a woman, not really.

Aka talibanking

Wank in the future
with the memories you banked
from the taliban thinking
in full public view
and the BBC woman thanked you

Emily Jane Thribb (17 and three-quarters)

But he doesn't think he's talking about it from a man's perspective

he thinks (entirely wrongly) that he's speaking from a woman's perspective

Woah! That's incredible! 😍

The BBC can get in the bin.

From the BBC listen again blurb

To discuss ideas on how to deal with manosphere misogyny, Nuala is joined by Professor Sarah Hawkes from the gender equality think tank 50/50, who specialises in gender equality and health equity, and Raewyn Connell, a feminist sociologist studying the social theory of gender relations and masculinity. She is Professor Emerita at the University of Sydney.

Note that there is only one woman here and the BBC decide not to use female pronouns for her. The person who is not a woman gets the female pronouns. This often seems to happen in BBC speak.

I've said it before, I think about WH or some other shite (there's so much to choose from nowadays) from Radio 4, that it seems like a deliberate ploy to anger and lose so many listeners they have to shut themselves down.

I don't see any difference between today's effort, one of many from the BBC, an Adam Graham's very small offering with his pink leggings. It's an undisguised 'fuck you'.

Same. Am disgusted

Times online has reported that Labour has now ensured BBC goes on forever,regardless of how much the public hate them. A legal trick will make them akin to the Bank of England.

On Women’s Hour? Why can’t they get some women who’ve experienced misogyny first hand to talk about it on WH. Let some bloke talk about it any other time.

It’s as if the WH producers are smug self righteous idiots who are pissed off about women asserting their rights to SSSs. Had to get one over the witches.

I stopped listening to Women's Hour when they had a transwoman on every day after the Supreme court ruling.

Well everyday female people only experince everyday unexceptional misogyny. The BBC did that feminism back in the 70s and 80s. It's B-O-R-I-N-G. No one cares now apart from middle aged women who drink prosecco (also done to death)

If you want to do a piece on misogyny now it needs a new angle, like trans women. Ordinary women experiencing ordinary misogyny are just out of date.

did women’s hour once feature Steph (believe it might be the same Steph who appears on another thread today) mansplaining endometriosis? Which I have had for years and Steph will never have?

JFC! I just listened to it and wishing I hadn't. He puts on a ridiculous simpering voice. The fact that he thinks women talk like that says loads more about misogyny than the word salad that came out of his mouth.

To be fair, he made a real hash of that interview with Nuala. She's left with egg on her face - he didn't make one word of sense and ended up being interrupted for not answering the question at the end, dribbling on about being marginalised. Embarrassed for WH.

Yes. Indeed WH did provide him a platform.

Unless it was done deliberately, to blatantly spit in women’s faces, why did they even give him the time of day??

Wasn’t it to give a live demonstration of the Manosphere?

I doubt the producers actually thought it through. But it was a good demonstration nonetheless.

The BBC is behaving like an abusive partner. When you step out of line they escalate their behaviour to put you back in your place. The BBC has had a telling off recently due to its approach to sex and gender, this is an attempt to regain control. What better way than to get a man who says he is a woman on Woman's hour to talk about everyday sexism.

Why any woman pays her TV licence is beyond me (I know you don't need it for radio).

You know I was thinking about this. And Men he pretend they're women don't like it when you say they're not a real woman. But can't see that that is part of being a woman being told they aren't something. You can't be something. Your thoughts? Your thoughts and your ideas are dismissed. That's all part of being a woman unfortunately and they don't like it and call it transphobia. Welcome to being a woman!

The most misogynistic thing I have heard is that being a woman is not defined by living in the world with a female body. It is defined as what a man feels.

To be fair, he made a real hash of that interview with Nuala. She's left with egg on her face

I found her hard enough to listen to before with her em erring and very obvious lack of any background work before interviews. She put that egg there herself, in the hope that men will be pleased with her.

Transwoman academic from an Australian university who’s studied masculinity for 30 years.

Yeah, Ray Connell had some good stuff to say about masculinity in Australia - not an easy task in the 70s and 80s. But then went weird and transitioned.

You would think he'd know better.

Has anyone written to complain to the BBC? Have you had a response?

Oh for crying out loud! I am so done with this. I'd shut the BBC down if I had my way. And don't get me started on the Guardian! 😡

I've complained this morning so won't get a response back yet, but I've asked for one. Tried not to go on a soap box but the basic jist was

• He's a man

• How offensive it was for women who DO experience misogyny and male violence to have to tune in and listen to a man talk about how hard it is for him

• How biased Nuala clearly is and the aggressive line of questioning she uses for GC voices, tells listeners their views are offensive. Doesn't do the same for TRA voices.

• That this is a conscious choice by the BBC and it feels like it is being done on purpose.

• That it's been nearly a year since the SC judgement, the BBC need to do better at this and they should apologise.