Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) removed from IWD event by police

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https://x.com/theposieparker/status/2029940578528473283?s=46&t=p6GESSn09HWHVXYgTLIbJg

“My removal from the international women’s day event by the police.

I had been asking women’s organisations whether their services were for women only. This caused alarm and distress and the venue, claimed to be privately owned when it’s owned by the council, asked me to leave for asking questions.

I have footage of every interaction that I will upload later so you can see what those questions were and you can judge for yourself.”

Freedom of speech means nothing if it only applies to speach you like.

Just posting as a wife of a striking miner in the realms of history, so to be clear i am left leaning, working class, adult human female.

Nottingham has always been scablands.

Posy did not support LWS contingency at the Durham miners Gala because, they were attacked by unison contingency and i was cross that they were not backed up. (I was not there that year)

I am going this year and i will be wearing her T-shirt

I don't always agree with everything she says, of late, but i am 100% behind her, and bow down to her courage and tenacity.

Well said! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Yeah, NWC has long traded under a false name. Nottingham University was already paddling far into the waters of genderwoo well before O'Flaherty's arrival in IIRC, 2004. One day I must discover the full history of Nottingham's gender services, I've only got any detail as far back as 2012 & that's patchy.

Edited for clarity.

Me too. I'm with the likes of KJK every time, men can't be women. No matter what they wear, say or do. Born male die male.A Woman is an adult female.

Which is nonsense, as Islam is not a race. Duh

Did you get that from the Hope not Hate website?

Who is this 'we' when you say we should be careful of her?

Some interesting screenshots in that thread from WRN Derbyshire. Notts Women Centre's charitable objectives only says women.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a clear time line of events.

Not questioning that KJK was asked to leave, but (and this comes up often on FWR) Nottingham Women's Centre and as far as I know other groups in Nottingham are all trans inclusive.

And unlike groups in Scotland dont hide it.

So was the question why dont they provide single sex services, because I am sure women in Nottingham would want that.

But they were one of the first "Women's" centre to be publicly trans inclusive. Whether from choice or funding pressure I dont know.<>

Was it this event? https://www.nottinghamwomenscentre.com/international-womens-day-2026/

<> It says on their web site they took this decision in 1998 https://www.nottinghamwomenscentre.com/about-us/trans-inclusion-at-nwc/

Sorry just seen a tweet that says the question was asked of ymca, so my post about Nottinghamd WC is not relevant.

She didn't upset anyone, only the one person she asked the question to. Before that, they had a great reception from the women there.

Lol. Kelly is an Atheist. So that doesn't even make sense. But we know a lot of (not all) transwomen will lie and lie and lie and misrepresent and twist something. No way in the world would I/do I believe this story.

There is zero evidence she supports nazis or neo-nazis. That nazis gatecrashed the womens event (they gatecrash EVERY fucking thing here in Australia) doesn't prove anything, you are using Guilt By Association. If the KKK gatecrashed a NAACP event, would that make the NAACP racist?

And many GC feminists write in the Spectator because it is one of the rare outlets we have. What else are we supposed to do, get no coverage? The Spectator might be majority right wing but it is mainstream and non-controversial.

is on friendly terms with neo-Nazi and holocaust denier Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen

She didn't know he was a neo-nazi and holocaust denier at the time of the interview.

was interviewed by the far-right network Soldiers of Christ Online

And? Is she not supposed to use any method to get her message out? Must we be so politically purist all the time? I'm left wing but if I thought I could get my story out more by being interviewed by them - damn right I would!! I really don't see the issue at all.

Just so you know, far right does not equate to 'nazi supporter'.

I'm not a fan of hers in particular, but I am truly sick and tired of the nitpicking and the guilt by association attacks.

No she was not. She didn't upset any women other than the one woman she asked the question of, and she wasn't 'upset', she just didn't want to answer the question. Before that, Parker and the women with her (7 were ejected, not just PP) received a really good welcome.

There is zero proof of these 'facts' you got from wikipedia. In fact, in Australia, our court found there was NO EVIDENCE of anything on that page.

far-right ideology

And that's a 'bad' thing? As opposed to, say... 'far left ideology'? You realise far right does NOT automatically = nazi, right? Right? Perhaps think critically yourself. One can be far right and not a nazi or nazi supporter. Did you realise that?

No, not that event it was the same one that WRN Derbyshire and WRN Notts were at as in this thread
https://x.com/i/status/2030032560969892031

They mention KJK and LWS Midlands getting thrown out.

Kelly was live streaming it seems so lots of short videos on her you tube that tell the story.

I was struck by "our definition of woman is defined on a case-by-case basis".

Apart from the poor use of English, this raises so many questions. Are all staff trained to make this decision or is there a Person i/c of Assessing Womanliness? Are there certain minimum criteria that have to be met or is the assessment done on 'vibes'? Can you appeal? Do you get a sticker to wear so that users and staff know that you have passed the assessment? Do you get re-assessed everytime you visit? If someone transitions/detransitions do they then get thrown out? How are NBs assessed?

NWC's services are "not open to cis men".
So they do accept trans-identifying females? Are there separate criteria for them? How do they prove their womanliness?

I think we should be told.

Whilst it is clear to us all you are tellingly swift to defend Parker - again, a woman whose consistent, factually verifiable, racism has led to real feminists and activists cuttings ties with her so as not to have our message tainted by association - your repeated, rabid, pseudo-rebuttals of opposition to her do nothing but make you look ridiculous.

I have already clearly said it before, but I appreciate it's helpful to you to have things reiterated, I not only do not use Wikipedia but I strongly recommend you don't either; it is not a source of verifiable fact.
Make sure you cross-check each of your statements, as I do, with at least two other sources. Trust me, it will help you enormously.

Finally, and for the avoidance of all doubt, I remain fully and firmly committed to the feminist fight, which means I remain fully and firmly committed to opposition to Parker and her ilk.
That her occasional making of the right noises is enough to convince you does not mean its sufficient to convince others. I have absolutely no issue calling her out and, I appreciate frustrating for you, no issue when her fans feebly attempt to attack me for doing so.

Hope this helps.

So where are the recordings of her upsetting women? And how do you know there were multiple reporting of her asking questions?
Do you not think it’s ironic that on a day that is meant to be centred on women solely, some women are claiming distress by being asked if their supposed single sex service includes men?
Do you not think there should be single sex services?

There is also a significant difference between ‘checking sources’ and actually investigating what was said and what was done.

So, have you come back with a list of the hateful and false things that KJK said in the interview she gave with Soldiers of Christ Online. At the time of her interview what the Soldiers of Christ Online had done to prove they were far right and not merely a conservative Christian group?

And can you tell us exactly what those neo-Nazis were doing at the Melbourne event?

You say you have double checked your sources, have you double checked your information to ensure it is an accurate account of the events though?

edited to add: also checking ‘sources’ really means little when one source uses another’s bad faith misinterpretation in their articles. Again, John Pesutto and the person creating the dossier discovered this and the judge pointed it out.

When you use phrases like repeated, rabid, pseudo-rebuttals of opposition to her do nothing but make you look ridiculous, your claim to be fully and firmly committed to the feminist fight doesn’t sound all that convincing.

Out of interest, who is the “us” and “our” you’re referring to in your post because I don’t remember asking you to speak on my behalf.

To be honest judging by most of the responses on this thread it’s you that’s making yourself look ridiculous.

I have watched a lot of KJK/LWS YouTube content, I don’t agree with everything but on the whole I think she’s brilliant and LWS is such an effective concept, saying she’s racist an “far right” are just lazy insults

Why do all anti FWR posters talk like comedy supervillains? It’s fascinating.

😂 That's one hell of a lot of word salad for one small post. What the does pseudo-rebuttals of opposition even mean do you think? 😕 Is it the same as the Minions of Orthodoxy?

It sounds like AI speak to me, (the hyphen is a dead give away) perhaps you have to be pseudo intelligent to get it. 😂