Clinics forced to share data on children who took PBs .. at last

[SpringCalling]

At last …. that this data was withheld should be considered scandalous

https://www.thetimes.com/article/7cd05ecd-277f-4d2e-882a-fbef5fafc6f1?shareToken=65fbc37a71974e792854156d8dae5941

Interesting authors.

The FOI in the article could well be exactly as they report.

I wonder how long a clinical negligence case usually takes, especially one with multiple parties involved?

Years of not Decades. The lupron class action is still rumbling through the crts in the US, and the contaminated blood scandal, enquiry and crt cases are still happening and thats from the 70s, 80s and 90s in the UK. This is the equivalent of thalidimide, sodium valporate and blood scandal all rolled into 1 and timesed by a 1000 so its a marathon of a case not a sprint like individual cases are.
And remember you need the clinical data so waiting for the cass review and the outcomes data which may now come out will have delayed things aswell

Meanwhile due to all the transphobia, cis gendered children going through precocious puberty like I did and my daughter did are denied medical treatment as doctors are now too scared to prescribe puberty delaying treatment, which has been used safely for decades.

This is not a benign condition, going through puberty too soon robs children of their childhood, destroys mental health, invites inappropriate comments and attention, results in short adult stature, eating disorders and increased risk of multiple types of cancer.

Do you have any evidence that doctors are not prescribing blockers for precocious puberty?

Yes, my daughter couldn't get them.

How old is your daughter?

"Transphobia" won't be what's stopping doctors from using medication for the purpose for which it was developed.

Unfortunately,"safe" use of puberty blockers is not that simple. They have huge side effects, even in use cases like precocious puberty. Every case will be looked at differently so that doctors and parents can weigh up the risk benefits. In some cases, doctors will recommend that the risk (of the horrendous side of effects, some of which won't appear until later e.g. osteoporosis) is too great for the likely benefit for that particular child.

If your daughter is struggling with precocious puberty, that sounds tough. But it's never going to be a simple case of PBs being the automatic answer. How old was she when her puberty started - and what were the signs that it had? What age did her period start?

Even when given a formal “do not destroy” order they delete records. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y9vx9zgvpo

I can see the sex realists continuing to be disappointed to learn that transition works, from any age. Trans people live happy lives.

What is behind this sex realist need for trans people to feel unhappy?

"suppression" was concerns over privacy. No one wants to be publicly hounded by sex realists for merely just living their lives.

What do sex realists plan to do once they get those records? The NHS does a fair job to prevent private medical data from escaping into the hands of antagonistically motivated groups.

Maybe because they prefer to avoid the handful of sex realists who are salivating at the chance to be the first to refer to them as a 'man' or 'woman' for the first time in their lives?

We are happy. In recent years, children have clearly been misdiagnosed. Misdiagnosis does not invalidate the diagnosis in others.

Would reports of happy successful outcomes change sex realist beliefs? No. Because "Gender Ideology" was created so sex realists wouldn't be required to acknowledge individual experience. People could be ignored and the big scary straw man attacked instead, just like "Gay Agenda" was in the 80s.

I think the clinics will continue to resist, which will effectively kick the new PB trial down the road. Hopefully long enough that trying to change sex falls out of vogue and the consequences to those caught up in taking PBs and cross sec hormones become clearer.

Agreed. The more resistance to revealing the data the more difficult questions get asked. A failure to disclose will bring more scrutiny and makes it harder to justify a new trial anyway.

This is about children and their safety and wellbeing. It's not helpful for transactivists to repeatedly dismiss safeguarding children in favour of their own self absorbed narratives - although it's very revealing.

Isn't it just.

There are going to be some interesting stories in twenty years time...

Agreed. There's no doubt that the self interested medics will resist this.

Fortunately the population's views about the way children are being exploited and abused by these medics has hardened and there's considerable appetite for them to finally be held to account.

The self interested parents will resist it too.

Was she/you demandiing them? Surely, it is normal ( outside of 'gender' medicine) for doctors only to prescribe when they really feel something is necessary. It is not normally patients who tell doctors what it is they ought to be prescribing, surely?

Medicine doesn't normally function to back up people's mental perceptions of themselves; it functions according to rigorous methodology regarding known physical or mental diseases.

It's not helpful for sex realists to involve themselves in someone else's medical treatment and relationships.

It's been happening for longer than twenty years already. Our stories are too inconvenient and normal for sex realists to allow.

Medicine doesn't function to support niche culture war beliefs.