What's the deal guys?

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I don't think this post is going to last long but what's the deal with hating trans women so much? I've been a women for 13 years of my life since 18 and it's never been a problem. Suddenly I'm not only talk of the town but also an evil man stealing everyone's rights away from them? I wasn't much of a boy as a kid anyway but. I just wanted to ask like what's the deal? Why do you hate the idea of me existing so much? What have I personally done to you that's been so bad? I feel like I need to be careful with my words because it'll be easy to accuse me of all sorts but I've done no harm to anyone. If you want to ask a trans woman some honest questions then please do, I don't usually talk about it in my day to day life and that, I'm pretty down to earth and will help you understand as much as possible. But I'd like to ask the people that hate me so much, can we ever get along? Please don't assume I'm what the internet and the media says I am though, I'm not like that at all! I just want us all to get on and I'm sick of having my life debated every 5 minutes.

I am unambiguously a recipient of all rights granted women in this country.

Offended by your sexism perhaps, but no more threatened by your existence than by that of any any other sexist man.

You've obviously rushed off to check what 'legal fiction' means, having waved it away earlier as some kind of madey-uppy GC nonsense, and realised that it's an established legal concept.
You even saw that the classic example of it is adoption, where a 'legal fiction' is established: that the adoptive parents are the parents of the adopted child.

That's one of the things that characterises some posters - they are so often wrong. Not in a moral or ethical sense, but factually wrong. Like saying that they assume that 'legal fiction' is part of the 'lingo' of sex realists.

And then when they google it or whatever, to act like of course they always knew it

Or saying things like they are a 'woman legally' although it has been established that said a biological male remains legally a man.

Or 'sex realism' aka provable scientific fact, is a 'niche obsession'.

I don't know lots of stuff, I get things wrong, but I make a point of checking my facts before entering into a discussion. I don't want to look like an eejit by saying clearly inaccurate things like 'legal fiction is a phrase recently made up by sex realists' or 'sex realism is a niche obsession'.

It interests me that people like onepostwonder don't seem to mind showing time and time again that they are eejits who don't know lots of stuff and get things wrong.

And then they sail on unperturbed by having demonstrated, in writing, how ill-informed and mistaken they are.

Wow. See, this just proves your male privilege. If you were a woman you'd understand that sex is real for women. We are the oppressed sex, your male sex is the oppressor sex. Females are oppressed based on our sex. Our rights are based on our sex.

If you were born a girl and grew from a girl into a woman, you'd know and understand this at a basic level. You don't. You have male socialisation, male experience and male thought process. That you don't understand that biological sex is what runs our lives, proves all you changed is your outside. You will never understand.

And don't even dare call trans Gay 2.0. Gay people took nothing from the female sex class. You don't get to hijack the gay struggle to push your agenda. You are nothing even remotely alike.

Full agree! And that's despite the fact that race, unlike being male or female, has no biological foundation.

Our daughter was adopted as an infant. My step-son is from my husband's first marriage. What 'adjustment' are you seeing here?

And here is the hyperbolic and emotionally manipulative misrepresentation of what people are saying.

Yes.... you have had 'experiences'. They are not female experiences.

And yes, you did say you went through a 'female puberty'. I and others wrote extensively how this is simply impossible and that you have claimed drug induced symptoms as being a female 'experience' when it is not. You also claimed that you and your doctor have spoken about 'menopause' and have used the term yourself in other posts as well.

Either way, the issue is that you have not experienced the female experiences you have claimed. It doesn't 'change your life' to describe those experiences accurately. You are a male person. If it changes your life to be accurate and honest about how you discuss your experiences, then this is a good indication that your life has been built around a false premise.

And no, women who reject that any male person can ever be a female person is not a 'niche group', it is the majority of population.

That you have told them that you are female when you are not female.

Even the Scottish Government agree that, without a GRC, you are a man in the eyes of the law, and even if you had a GRC the GRA itself outlines why you don't have the rights of a woman.

If not the law, where do you think these rights stem from?

The only people that refer to sex changed birth certificates as 'legal fiction' in casual conversation are sex realists. That is where I was going with this.

You've never met a sex realist? You've never met a scientist, I take it?

Please tell me more about my male privilege.

Help me here. I'm stuck at why I need a GRC?

'And then they sail on unperturbed by having demonstrated, in writing, how ill-informed and mistaken they are.'

This has happened numerous times now. I think it comes from the dehumanisation and demonisation that we have seen. This need to portray a majority opinion as a minority and niche 'obsession' that is akin to far right, supremist, homophobic and racist and a slew of other misrepresentations.

It is all about making dismissing material reality easier. It is like framing material reality as being a 'belief'.

My mother was a zoology professor. She is very sciency.

I see. I've clearly not been paying attention to all the power I have over women and have now learned I've been entitled to for my 50-mumble years.

I am simply referring to recent court cases that clarified that even a GRC doesn't give you many rights. You say that you are 'unambiguously a recipient of all the rights granted women in this country'.

Where do you think these rights stem from if not the law?

It's worth trying to understand this because at the moment it sounds as though you are in danger of being taken to court for breaking the law.

Male privilege- you get first dibs at anything
you are more likely than women to be heard -your voice will be seen as more credible in a he says she says situation
if you send in a cv you are more likely to be interviewed than a women with the same cv/ better chance to get a job or promotion
You have grown up with a confidence gained from being a male in a man’s world - the arrogance and expectation that you should be listened to comes from that. The ability to stand on a stage and perform comes therefore more easily as it’s only girls who are told to shut up
you will be less likely to be left with the kids when a relationship breaks up because you expect others to clear up your mess

do I understand correctly that you have failed to capitalise on your privilege and blame others for your lack of success?

Well no. Everyone understands that if you are allowed to lie about a factual matter on a legal document that makes it legal fiction.

It's bizarre, isn't it? Surely virtually everyone is a sex realist. Sex deniers must be a tiny minority.

You're doing it again: a law which sets aside the fact that men are biological males and biological males are men , in order to treat some of them as if they were women is a legal fiction.
What would you call it?

Bigots.