Rupert Lowe & Restore Britain new party

[RogueFemale]

https://www.restorebritain.org.uk/

He's been very good about pursuing rape gangs. But I wonder if it's motivated purely by concern for women and girls. I saw on the party website FAQs that 'high level" donors will receive a tie (presumably branded). No apparent thought given to the possibility of a high level female donor.

Yes do you?

Some people are in these categories:

1. Lowe is racist but I agree with him on some aspects of women’s rights therefore I’ll overlook the racism and vote for him.
2. I have no problem voting for Lowe as he isn’t racist.

I was referring to you as the one trick pony.

I believe in safe spaces for women and for slaughter only after stunning.
That doesn't mean I agree with him on everything or that I came to my decisions by the same thought process. I'd argue that it's the thought process behind it that would make someone a racist or not and that might be hard to deduce from a few posts.

It's a shame Restore don't have any policies for women. The no more hose pipe ban and pubs thing aren't really going to close the gender pay gap.

Oh you were insulting me??That's a shame because we are the same:

I believe in safe spaces for women and for slaughter only after stunning.
That doesn't mean I agree with him on everything or that I came to my decisions by the same thought process.

Then your assertion that if a person agrees with Lowe, but wouldn’t vote for him, they must be racist because “that’s how it works” makes no sense.

Wild that you seem to think there are people who acknowledge Lowe’s racism but vote for him anyway, but you don’t appear to believe anyone votes for him precisely because of the racism.

You have been pretty free with the insults through this thread.

Agreeing with someone on two points does not make them the same.

It's a shame Restore make no mention of the NHS in their policies. I wonder what their intentions would be?

And after we've established a man knows what a woman is, which probably puts him in the company of 95% of men, including incels, misogynists, rapists and femicidal lunatics the world over, do you not think we should be looking behind that to explore his policies, attitudes and approach to people of our sex? Because its no good simply stating we're different from men if those differences are going to be used to put us in an inferior position.
However if all that matters to you is a party who know what a woman is, The Communist Party have ticked that box for years.

I know women who support Lowe. All are working full time, all have children, most own their own home. A few are in healthcare. Most are degree educated or skilled. It’s very clear that Restore have support from women. Some are business owners and appreciate his post on corporation tax and small business incentives. Others are concerned about the cover up of gang rape. Some are fed up with men in women’s spaces and puberty blocking drugs for children. Others worry about the lack of integration between communities. Or the murder of the young mother by a migrant. Others rent prices. Others non stun (or light recoverable stun) slaughter.

Working from home- his comments certainly appealed to me. Ie it’s none of the governments business. WFH is helpful to me I work well from home, less distractions, my family and reduces my costs.

My social groups are very mixed, I know Polanski supporters, Tory supporters and a few Corbyn fans. I’m open minded.

Ben Habib has come out in support of Rupert, Ben has dual heritage and comes across as very educated. He leads Advance.

Lowe has said they want to make it easier for spouses of British citizens to come to Britain. He has spoken about this. His deportation comments are on his X page. He is very open about it. His ideas on business are on there. Same for Halal. Same for rape gangs.

Maybe other people support Lowe as they are fed up of crime? Rapes being covered up by authorities? Being called racist for expressing concern about their changing community? Drug crime? Barbers shops springing up everywhere and little being done about it.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3677xzk56no

I see local elections are back on and a SM post suggests Reforms legal costs will be paid for by our tax money. I have not fact checked this and tbh I really hope it is incorrect.

If the current government tried to stop democratic elections and we, taxpayers, will foot the bill that’s a disgrace. Maybe people are really fed up with the clear attempt to stop democratic elections as it’s obvious the government are worried about the result.

If people are fed up that means they go towards the Greens or Reform. Reform have been slated on here for months, if you are going to be called a racist gammon for supporting Nigel and Zia but prefer Rupert’s migration policy or his corporation tax policy - you may aswell move to the right a bit more. Those that hate you will hate you anyway. You are branded racist by some anyway. Rupert’s ‘I don’t care’ may mean they realise it’s okay to stop caring about being shamed for wanting a rape gangs enquiry.

Had Labour and the Tory’s deported criminals. Had the rape gangs been stopped. Had Starmer not called concerned Southport parents Far Right then maybe it would have been different.

Some MPs do go on more about Gaza than their own constituency. Your party collected donations and had a falling out - it really didn’t look good to supporters. The people of Yarmouth at least see Lowe donate his wages each month to a good cause. My MP is a total disappointment.

I will continue to read Lowes own posts (not edited clips from third parties), as I am very surprised at how many people are talking about this and the fact they have over 50k members already is unheard of. I know of him from the rape inquiry. He’s concerned about the amount of money spent on translation in the NHS - in fairness if I was in hospital in Spain or Japan I’d use my phone (Google translate) or assume I’d have to pay for my own translator. I certainly would not expect the Japanese people to pay for me. He also posts where his salary goes each month - scout hut repairs this month I think I read.

Anyone who thinks their friends and family would never vote for Farage or now Lowe may just not be aware. Not everyone says it out loud but when they realise you are happy for a friendly debate (without being cancelled) so many people open up, sheepishly at first. But I won’t cancel a friend due to who they vote for - life is more complicated than that.

Rupert said he’d fundraise a rape inquiry and he did what he said. People shot him down and he stuck by his word and continued. Maybe this is also refreshing in a world full of lying politicians.

"Lowe has said they want to make it easier for spouses of British citizens to come to Britain"

So long as they are law abiding French or Australians. That's what he said.

I am only wanting law abiding citizens to live near me and my children and my children’s friends. If I went to Japan and mugged someone I’d expect to be arrested, put in prison, be removed from the country at my own expense. I’d expect to put put on a life time ban list so I cannot return to Japan. It’s normal. If I was found carrying a knife in France - they should arrest me and lock me up/deport me.

@Treacling That's covered the law abiding.
Why might he have mentioned France and Australia?

When a rape gang comes from a white community does Rupert Lowe call for innocent members of that community to be deported?

When a young mother is killed by a white person do people say all white people are to blame?

As for being surprised that friends and family might vote Reform or Restore, why would I be? Ignorance and racism aren't new!

That was being asserted earlier in the thread. That people who vote Reform or restore are racist.

you don’t appear to believe anyone votes for him precisely because of the racism.

Don't I? Now, how do I 'appear' that when I've said no such thing?

I frequently mention all the Labour MPs, Green politicos, union officials and leftie celebrities who endorse SWP campaigns and even appear on platforms with them. This is not a bug on the left side of politics; it's common enough to be a feature.

It's exceedingly rare that anyone says, no, that's not good for women.

It's much more often that I get scolded for even bringing it up. And more often still that the whole question gets ignored.

Because they might be unrepentant rape enablers, but at least they're left wing, which means they've got some credentials which apparently I lack.

Yes, if FWR had been around in the days of Gerry Healy, he'd have had plenty of posters willing to deflect from his record.

When the SWP covers up the rape of its young female members, do you say that Labour MPs shouldn't appear on their platforms?

I dunno.

I'm surprised you care enough to put this amount of energy into finding out because if you agreed with his nhs policy you still wouldn't vote for him.

As for being surprised that friends and family might vote Reform or Restore, why would I be? Ignorance and racism aren't new!

Here we go...it continues.

You should address your explanatory 'list' to this poster @BackToLurk because they don't seem to understand it.

Lowe actually said there would be an immigration red list based on facts. It’s on his own X page.

Norway have just tightened their immigration policy. They can deport someone linked to crime even if they have not yet committed a crime.

https://www.lifeinnorway.net/world/

Sweden are tightening immigration

https://www.government.se/government-policy/the-governments-priorities/migration-and-integration/

America has tightened immigration.

Japan (I believe) has tightened immigration.

Austria have a red white red system.

Norway, Sweden and USA are all pretty recent changes - it’s likely others will follow.

‘Children will be able to take 5 days leave from school to go on a family holiday’.

I never take my kids out of school, I pay so much more due to this. But not everyone can afford to pay thousands more.

It’s a sensible policy. At present numerous parents lie instead. I am not happy asking my children to lie about their holidays, I like this policy.

VAT threshold doubled.
Corporation tax reduced.
Assistance for small business.
Encourage business to be based in the U.K.
Backing hospitality - this sector employs many women and I know some are having hours cut and some are worried about their jobs.
I assume he will back farmers - but I can’t find anything. I don’t eat meat but appreciate him highlighting non stun and recoverable stun slaughter. I think all such meat should be labelled so we can make an informed choice.

You gave 2 reasons why people vote for Lowe. You didn’t include racism. HTH

You must see something different to me then. I frequently see ‘lefties’ cautioning against sharing platforms with the SWP, and the ripping off of the top of placards that name the SWP was always pretty common back when I went on demos.

Tell your union to stop funding them then.

I was quoting you. Using the 2 examples you gave which didn't include being a racist. To stress the point that these exist.

Nowhere did I say no racists will vote for Rupert. I just didn't quote that example because it was irrelevant to my point.

You're either just making shit up or you can't follow a discussion.

Of course some Restore voters will be racist. Like some Labour voters, green party voters and tories.

Their racism presents a bit differently in different parties but they're all there.

I've written to Lowe asking him to clarify stance on NHS, women's rights, and trans-ideology. There is nothing on the website. He's 68, he's likely to be bloke-ist, but I still think he's better than Farage. He's an old Tory, and I'm a homeless old Tory.

Farage is, and always has been, a grifter. MEP for years, rarely showed up, just enjoyed the expenses and the pension. He doesn't believe in anything other than the grift.

He’s posted on his Facebook page about trans ideology.