Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada

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Looks like it was a man in a dress. Another tragedy. More lives lost. Boys with violent tendencies cannot be told they are actually girls. The violent background of trans activism is a problem.

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BREAKING

The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang.

Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023.

Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning how to shoot rifles when he was just a child. Many guns were kept in the family's residence.

Facebook posts from his mother indicate he may have struggled with behavioral issues, including violent tendencies, from a very young age.

Strang fatally shot 10 people prior to taking his own life.

In 2021, Strang launched a YouTube channel that was promoted by his mother on her Facebook. The channel was dedicated to "hunting, self-reliance, guns" and his other interests. At some point, Strang deleted the content on the channel and changed his handle from "Jesse Boy" to "JessJessUwU." The only remaining post on the channel was made 6 months ago and reads "I've been pretty, um, aimless."

Sky News can fuck right off. NOT OUR CRIME.

Re “they do have to quote what was said”- they have to try and retain impartiality and balance an official viewpoint with another, with regard to regime party lines. I have phrased some of this poorly- I don’t mean to suggest that in this instance they had to report the initial police reports. I suspect they were trying to balance public interest with privacy (of the victims’ and suspect’s family). So giving the little information they were limited to, rather than omitting the police reports.

Yes anecdotes and stats can be used legitimately but in the case of live reporting it is unwise until they have verified sources. I agree there’s room for nuance, but the guidelines during live reporting are likely to be more carefully weighted on the side of public safety. As I understand it, the first reports were coming out while the area was in lockdown, so there’s more burden to stick to corroborated facts.

My comment about understanding quotes was referencing how many posters came on saying they’d read that “it was a female” on sites- when every major news site that I saw was quoting the police reports of a “female in a dress.”

Gender/sex understanding does seem contentious, and I agree sex would’ve been clearer. It could be a cynical move on their part not to use the word. They will be criticised either way.

Differences in reporting quotes regarding individual suspects vs regimes- I meant the legal implications differ as do the guidelines around how things are worded.

Long reply! Hopefully we all can agree this was a needless tragedy and people need to recognise the unintended consequences of gender ideology and its influence on treating young people with mental health issues. I just appreciate the pressure the police and the press are under and we absolutely should hold them to the highest standards, which doesn’t include expecting them to report things people have seen on social media (as it seemed some people were suggesting earlier.)

Not during intense grief but later the families of the victims will wants answers.
They will want to know why this young apparently autistic boy was encouraged by people on Reddit to transition to female at the age of 15 (even though that is not possible). That is child abuse and it has led to a lot of violence including the death of his own mother whom he murdered first.

They haven't given any description, or indeed a name.

The original description wasn't for the press at all.

Grrr. R4 news on the hour just played the ‘identified as female’ part and didn’t spell it out that he was male.

Hopefully Canadians will show outrage at the constant ‘she’ use by the police.

Someone who randomly murders people is not a victim, no matter what he might have suffered.

If my family member was killed by male pattern violence I wouldn't want that fact obscured, no.

I'm not quite sure why you think that would be ok?

How can men be held to account if their violence isn't acknowledged?

My guess - once there is more official announcement of facts, news services in the UK and much of the US will switch to making things clear.

In Canada it won't happen the same way, they will possibly say "assigned male at birth" but will otherwise keep to female pronouns.

Irelands top news website.

https://www.rte.ie

Canadian school shooter identified as 18 year old woman.

BBC News - www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cr5lnzqdr5pt
Canada shooting latest: Police name suspect in Canada school shooting as 18-year-old Jesse van Rootselaar - BBC News

Sky news headline is ‘suspect identified as an 18 year old’ !!! Honestly this whole thing turns media to tie themselves in knots.

The victims would preferred to identify as living, but they can't, due to the killer, so why on earth do the Canadian police want to respect the killer and refer to him as his preferred gender?

Why do the suspects always come first, victims last?

In a small community, everyone knows everyone else and everyone would see it was a male person not a female on sight. The photos of Jesse Strang confirm it - no possible way anyone thought he was female.

The MSM is absolutely determined to pin this on a woman and it will be recorded as a female crime under Canadian law. If he had been caught alive, he would be housed in a female prison.

Reading the news updates, I think there is something to be said for saying if you wouldn't give a gun license to 1 adult in a household then no one in that house should have one.

In support of the above, this from the BBC suggests that the more cynical among us were rather closer to the truth re: whether the misleading shelter-in-place alert was an understandable error based on inaccurate witness reports, or a politically motivated decision to actively misrepresent important information about the probable suspect.

Incident at the residence occurred first, says officer

Published at 21:13

Giving more details about the shooting of the suspect's family members at a local residence, McDonald says the police were called to this scene after they were called to the school.

The police were called by a young female at around 13:47 local time, McDonald says.

Officers were called because a young female at the home went to her neighbours. This female was a family member of the victims at the home and the suspect, he explains.

The incident at the home occurred first, then the suspect went to the school, he tells the press.

It says front and centre on the BBC that Jesse was born male.

Via The Fail

Strang took his own life at the school. He killed his mother Jennifer and brother Emmett at their home beforehand, CTV News reported.
Strang was named by Royal Canadian Mounted Police on Wednesday as Jesse Van Rootselaar and described as a woman. He is understood to have used his mother's name, Strang, socially and at school.
RCMP added that Jessie began identifying as female six years ago, aged 12 and said there had been multiple call-outs to his home related to his mental health.

And

Strang stopped attending school four years ago aged just 14, the spokesman said.
A parent whose son attends the school said his child knew Strang and played sports with his sister
His son was at the academic institution Tuesday when Strang carried out the deadly massacre. He is now 'afraid to go back to school', his father added.
Juno News and Western Standard News were among the first publications to identify Strang and reveal his transgenderism.

And

Sources told the Daily Mail that Strang lived at the home with three relatives.
Strang is also believed to have used she/her pronouns on her since-deleted social media accounts.
Locals Juan van Heerden and Liam Irving told the Western Standard that Strang was a 'quiet kid' who was often seen 'sitting by himself in the corner'.

Social media is suggesting that Strang used a uwu tag in online user names. This is a variation of owo. (Sigh) Whether this is true remains to be seen but expect a repeat of last year in narrative to unfold...

The problem with the media hiding behind bullshit about reporting sex/gender is that social media fills the void and these rumours are going to go viral. It doesn't actually matter if they are true or not because damage done from not reporting quicker on the truth. We've seen this problem in the UK already.

Of course the above is almost red meat to right wing us political circles so it's 100% going to blow up. I see little point in pretending it won't at this point. This is where the Canadian police and wider press need to really get on top of matters quickly to address these claims rather than it getting even more wild.

If it does turn out to be accurate, then it's going to get wild too.

None of this is helpful to transpeople. As I say a huge part of the rage isn't even for what he's done which is alarming. It's all about the reporting of the story. The focus isn't on the crime it's on the state lies and complicity. Which fits in with the other ongoing narrative of Epstein and a cover up.

It's all disturbing. Every element of it. All it does is highlight the need to be honest and not create sacred castes and have proper earlier interventions as part of prevention strategy. Lying about the truth of it all will not help.

The DM is saying “he” in their report.

Man kills women and children.
Stay with us for some shocking news about bears and what they do in the woods.

Watching the news tonight and reading reports it was clear how much the MSM were trying to avoid stating that the killer was trans.

The biggest case of misinformation is not false information, it is withheld information.

They are simply obsessed with never saying anything that could be deemed negative about trans individuals.

From the press conference:

Asked if the suspect had a gun licence, the deputy commissioner says: "I believe she had a license which had expired in 2024, she did not have any firearms registered to her".

My bold.

And:

McDonald says police have identified the suspect as "they chose to be identified".

That seems certain that this will be recorded as a shooting by a woman. I despair.

I'm going to stop posting now. Point made, and the truth effectively out. Am instead focussing on that poor, poor child and the other victims. My thoughts are with them.

I do really hope that there's enough of a backlash against the reporting, though, both here and over there, for us all to learn something from this. Truth and safety must come before politics and ideology.

This has to be said, again and again, and should be enacted.

Yes, well, Ireland is similarly captured.

Perhaps cases and reports like this will wake some of them out of their trans trance.

ETA: Mind you, Ireland has always hated women.

Why did a 16/17 year old with mental health issues (confirmed by the police) have a sodding gun licence?