'Imane Khelif confirms she has the SRY Gene'

[Dominoodles]

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260204-boxer-khelif-reveals-hormone-treatments-before-paris-olympics?fbclid=IwdGRzaAPx6cpjbGNrA_HpnGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHmDU3flpr6TJm0IDKx8-deTRch_y35a_HypLqtMxmMc_ZtSNOcODpHMg0NZL_aem_yZ2OOucrnoSj57H09A9mPA

Months and months of denial...

You can stand to pee as a female!

was it Steve Bunce? he is getting utterly pasted on X.

I'm not sure but I turned the TV off in disgust at what I was both hearing and seeing!

A she wee might help?

The CNN facebook page is 50/50 on the comments, which is really disappointing. Try Googling - Imane Khelif CNN facebook

Actually I disagree. CNN is pretty democrat supporting. During the Olympics, every American on my Facebook was dismissing this as trumpian propaganda. For as much as 50% of the cnn readership to have woken up a bit is huge progress.

I find it worrying that 50% are in denial and refusing to believe the truth.

This is true. I remember two years ago having a discussion with two people from the US who got their news from CNN, Washington Post and the Guardian. They confidently told me that Khelif was a female boxer and how horrible it was that people were discussing ‘her’.

I pointed out which DSD it was likely that Khelif had and took them through the world boxing and the IOC actions and what had and had not been said. And the history of the IOC regulations and the Semenya case. One of them mentioned Griner. I think I showed them the video that Griner released throwing the basketball near or in the pool. But what about the testosterone ? I mentioned Semenya’s level and what ‘high testosterone’ mean in female people and they were shocked.

They were also rather shocked when they started to recognise the pattern of who these female people were with ‘high testosterone.’ They had never thought to look further than their news coverage.

No one forced him to pretend to be a woman so his mental health is his issue.

Well, since he was mis-identified as a girl at birth and brought up as a girl, and never developed male genitalia, he probably just assumed he'd be a woman when he grew up.

That's what everybody told him he was, for their own purposes of national prestige and -though it's amateur boxing, I bet his entourage were making good money out of 'manufacturing' an Algerian Olympic gold-medal winner.
There was a vested national interest in keeping him female.

He should have fought the system, rejected what his trainers and medical team were telling him, refused to box against women, walked away from the fame and the medals and the money and the adulation, and returned in disgrace to his poor family in Tiaret.

Of course that's what he should have done.

Well done

It was the Semenya case that peaked me as a feminist. It didn't take me much digging to find out what was going on, but the mainstream media ploughed on with the "women with naturally high testosterone" narrative. It was shocking for me to find out that news outlets I trusted blindly, like the BBC could blatantly lie and obfuscate.

No more blind trust! I reckon the BBC, the guardian et al have unwittingly peaked so many of us

This and the gender stuff have the common factor of otherwise decent people apparently doubling down to defend the indefensible, and I'm beginning to think that in a lot of cases it's because they are fundamentally decent, not in spite of it. Decent but naive.

They are predisposed to think "innocent unless proven guilty" and also, I suspect, unconsciously assuming that other people approach things the way they would. (Unless those other people are obvious Bad People e.g. Ists, Phobes and Trump Supporters.)

So because they and the sort of people they tend to associate with would do the decent thing if they discovered they weren't actually female, they assume that Khelif etc would probably do the same, and that the sporting bodies in any case would uphold decent standards even if a particular individual athlete turned out to be a wrong 'un. Ergo Khelif "must be" a woman.

And they probably think that TIMs in women's prisons means appropriate, decent, separate arrangements, the way they would organise it themselves, not sharing cells and showers. ("But nobody in their right mind would do that, surely? You must be mistaken. It must be transphobic propaganda".)

And so on.

A quick look online shows that the Algerian media are still referring to IK as female, and as an Algerian hero[ine] who is the victim of a politically-motivated attack, with Musk and Trump mentioned.
Mondiaux de Boxe 2025 : Imane Khelif, le punching ball d'une FAB K.O.
Elle sera de retour sur le ring le mois d'avril : Imane Khelif entre dans l’arène professionnelle - Sports : EL Moudjahid

One of the comments under the first article is absolutely scathing about the state of sports in Algeria, saying that sport is controlled by charlatans and opportunists who are in positions of power not because of their competence, but because of corruption and graft, and closeness to political power.

Which would tie in with IK being cynically 'manufactured' for national prestige, despite his entourage knowing that he wasn't a woman.

If I was going full-on conspiracy theory, I'd say that the reason why IK went up a weight division from being pretty crap at 60kg to gold medal at 65kg is that his team knew that because he was male, the extra 5kg he put on before Paris would be muscle mass, whereas a woman putting on an extra 5kg would probably just put on 5kg, and lose condition.

I'm not making this up: a woman boxer who moved up a division to try to get onto the Olympic team as there was no space for her at 60kg reported
' Competing so far outside her natural weight-class had unforeseen effects...
I go from looking at myself in the mirror at 60kg being toned and having a six-pack to then going up to 66kg and not being in the shape that I was in.'
Exclusive: Amy Broadhurst on weight issues, a mixed season and her goals for 2024 - Irish Mirror

Khelif was eminently beatable at 60kg, dangerously unbeatable at 66kg, and is planning to move up to 70kg for the LA Olympics.

I may be wrong, but I don't think any welterweight who had not been through male puberty could put on 10kg without getting worse not better in the ring.

I suspect his trainers and medical advisers moved him up through the weight divisions because they knew that IK would put on 10kg of muscle, not flab. Because they knew he was not a woman.

I’m not sure I agree. Decent people would change their views if evidence was presented that shows females being harmed.

These people have been shown the evidence and double down. They have no care for what’s right.

It was Semenya’s evidence in the CAS that really pushed open the discussion for me with clarity. And then him telling women that they just didn’t try hard enough meant when MN stopped deleting us for misgendering, I was never going to even they/them him.

How ever, what is it about Semenya and Griner that meant both of them self published shirtless photos? I suspect it is a power move? But I also suspect the photo of Khelif on the shoulders of the coaches is also a message of ‘you cannot stop me!’

It was Joanna Harper in 2015, who used incredible influence over the International Olympic Committee to change their rules on transgender athletes. The thing is though, it also gave an opportunity for athletes with DSD's (previously called "intersex") to compete in women's events, resulting in the debacle which was the women's 800m final in the 2016 Olympics at Rio, where gold, silver and bronze, were all awarded to athletes with the same 46 XY 5-ARD condition, which meant that they were biological males. These athletes were - Caster Semenya, Francine Niyonsaba and Margaret Wambui.
The following article made me incredibly angry.

https://www.science.org/content/article/scientist-racing-discover-how-gender-transitions-alter-athletic-performance-including

Khelif was born with a Disorder of Sexual Development. Probably 5ARD which is when testosterone doesn't affect him correctly in utero, which meant he was born with unusual genitalia, a micropenis which looked like a clitoris, and testes which were internal. So he was raised as a girl. However, at puberty his own testosterone affected his maturation and his genitals would grow, he'd get male pattern hair growth, he'd bulk up, gain strength, etc etc. And of course, no periods. He says he took drugs to reduce his 'female testosterone' but when men do this the acceptable level for them is still far more than a natural female.
Khelif isn't transgender, if he was he'd have been born a normal male and then at some later date he would have 'identified' as female.

It is very generous of you but it is not true that he did not know.

He was raised as "a girl" when cameras were around but, as you see up thread, he was treated as a man - playing football, hanging out with the men in the gym and so on.

A scam.

That injured women.

The activist edit warring on Wikipedia is something to behold. You will see this interview isn’t mentioned on the main page at the current time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Imane_Khelif

These people show their bias and unfitness to arbitrate on these issues:

“You keep saying that but this is a BLP so can you please provide a source for that? The only thing I've seen that comes close it her statement I'm a woman like any other woman. I was born as a woman, I live as a woman, and I am qualified. but none of this is contradicted by her saying she has SRY and it's a BLP violation for you to say it does. There is also the CNN interview where she said some report was false but it's unclear what she's referring to. She could be referring the the claimed leak of her medical records by Le Correspondant which says a lot more about her than simply that she has the SRY gene. BTW to be clear there is also a gensex issue here. While you are entitled to your views, Wikipedia is not the place for you to spread them. So if you believe a woman with SRY cannot be a "a woman like any other woman. I was born as a woman, I live as a woman", then you need to stop letting your views influence your editing here or else you can get the fuck out of the gensex topic area. Nil Einne (talk) 04:47, 7 February 2026 (UTC)”