is there a thread for FWS / Prisons?

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Its live today on the scottish tribunals website and lasting for three days. Easy to join and good audio quality. I think that's marion on screen in the background. She seemed rather amused at the judge trying to understand the definitions.

Always good to remembers that the sexually-motivated TIMs are of two kinds. Transvestic Fetishists tend not to pursue genital surgeries & often tinker with their hormone regimes to retain their all-important erections. AGPs are beyond fetish & far into the realm of paraphilia. In love with themselves as "women", they demand genital remodelling.
[The congregation now turns toward Holyrood & responds; "Paraphilias cluster!"]

Just saw this on X, but no idea whether it's been verified.

Upsetting content.

https://x.com/WingsScotland/status/2020848013757886526

The Rev has a piece on his site about it -

"We don’t know about you, folks, but it makes us sick to our stomachs. We honest-to-God wish we could believe that our leaders were merely morons."

I second that wish, the more I learn about this case the more 🤮

Wings Over Scotland | A Dumber Nation

So the theory is that Swinney wants to lose the May election and is trying to turn voters against the SNP? By working to keep men in women's prisons?

Seems unlikely.

Largely because die hard SNPers - of which there are plenty - do not care about men in women's prisons.

Well yes, Wings, and most of the people who comment, are a bit batty about the conspiracy against Scottish Independence, but it does seem like the letter is genuine.

I know that many women of my age have cancelled their membership of the party over this very issue.

I don't buy the 'agents of the British state' theory, however. I reckon it's just the case that they're so immersed in the ideology that they don't know how to extricate themselves, and some of them - eg N. Sturgeon - are after jobs in various international organisations.

There's also the effect of returned post-Brexit MEPs. The EU Commission has pushed Gender Identitarianism hard for a long time & the SNP are wedded to a return to the EU, so you get the likes of Alyn "Daddy" Smith pushing it in the Party as essential to their EU compliance. It isn't yet but worth staying abreast of Athena Forum because a lot of people in both Commission & Parliament are pushing to make at least a Goodwin level of compliance a formal requirement for Accession.

And always, always buy it secondhand. One shouldn't like to contribute so much as a fraction of a Public Lending Rights disbursement to Burns.

Reddit TRAs not happy. https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/HmH2Zw0suH

When you look at the stats, the numbers who intend to vote SNP just hardly budges.

Party members are generally far more aware of issues than the nonbinary on the Haymarket omnibus.

'Finally the Scottish Equivalent to the EHRC intervened. I was expect them yo be supportive of us as their messaging has consistently been towards the GLP section of the debate.

Instead they intervened stating that while they don't support the pursuer, the existing guidance on the SPS policy and guidance does not give enough weight to the rights of cis women to have single sex spaces.

I was utterly shocked at that betrayal.'

Then you havent been paying attention.

Seems like the Scots government have now paid up on what they owed to FWS.

PTD is supposed to be the clued up one.

That’s great to hear.

At last.

Hurrah ! About bloody time

"I was utterly shocked at that betrayal."

I wonder what that feels like 🤔

Not sure whether this has been posted already, but just in case it hasn't. Stephen Daisley in the Scottish Mail excoriates Swinny on the prison issue. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15540499/STEPHEN-DAISLEY-Swinney-surely-doesnt-believe-men-belong-womens-prisons-truth-hes-prisoner-woke-cabal-heart-government.html

From FWS:

The Scottish Government spent £766, 498.80 on the two FWS judicial reviews. If you also add in the costs of challenging the s35 order the Scottish Government has spent a total of £1,136,973.04 in court on failed attempts to remove women's rights from law.

God they hate women, don't they? Wonder how much actual medical care that would have funded, or school support for children with SEND?

What amazing women the 3 directors of FWS are. Met on MN on this board I believe - amazing stuff.

Plus we've done the audit. Led by the amazing Knotty
Women on MN shouldn't be underestimated 💪

Someone who knew this vile man has commented there. I expect the comment won't last long on that subreddit so here is a copy:

I knew David/serenity personally from the ages of 15-19 (they would have been in their 20s when I met them I think) as well as his younger sister and I can assure you that they have never even spoken to a doctor about being trans. This is a perfect example of why you guys need to work with woman's rights organizations when it comes to cases like this. I can also tell you that even long before he became "serenity" that woman and girls already felt uneasy with him. Many of our male friends also could tell that something was off but I imagine I speak for us all when I say this we never expected to see this.

I am aware it's not right to deadname a trans person and I apologize to those it may offend but I'm going to do it here because as stated I can assure you personally that David is not a transgender person. This is someone who is using your struggle as a guise to continue being a predator if they are allowed into a woman's prison. David has always been for as long as I knew him very good at manipulating his mental health to have people feel sympathetic and look past this feeling by making you think "well he's just a bit fucked up, that's probably all it is" until it goes on for years and you can see its an act. This in my and many others eyes was another example of this once he "came out".

David was also married to a girl I went to school with who again I will probably be a bit off with the ages who at the time was I believe 18 and he was 29 when they got married and she was 16 when they began dating. I know that's totally legal in the UK but I'm sorry that's weird and creepy and borderline nonce material. Said girl also had a young girl of her own so I pray for all that is good that they never done anything to them. This marriage fell apart when they became Serenity and in his ex wife's own words "hes manipulative and uses his mental health against you".

As someone who knew this person well I can assure you this is not a case you want to touch and use as an example of you being attacked. David is a predator, Serenity is a cover.

There are details I have emitted from this post that I could add but honestly I don't think I could in good faith knowing his sister and ex wife personally still I don't think it would be right to talk about much more without their blessing.

https://archive.ph/EhIWA

Daddy is a creep.

David/Serenity sounds like he’d be right at home among the TRAs there. Also rolling my eyes at “Your struggle” - give me strength.