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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bridget Phillipson blocking EHRC guidance - thread 2

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lcakethereforeIam · 25/01/2026 15:48

Thread 1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5462015-brigitte-phillipson-blocking-ehrc-guidance

Hope I've spelled her name correctly this time.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/05/2026 14:08

UtopiaPlanitia · 12/05/2026 13:58

Both Jess Phillips and Bridget Phillipson trade heavily on having worked in refuges for women but this experience of refuge work doesn't seem to have informed their political vision or ministerial work in any meaningful way. What they say and what they do are greatly disconnected.

Their egos are far bigger than their experience or commitment to the safety of girls and women. Suspect Harriet Harman is a role model for them - all feather bedding a good living in politics for themselves while self identifying as feminists and ethical politicians.

All 3 are towering disappointments.🙄

RobinStrike · 12/05/2026 14:11

Alex Davies-Jones has also resigned now. She was Victims minister. Is it a coincidence that both she and Jess Phillips resigned after Harriet Harman’s appointment seemingly over their heads?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/05/2026 19:21

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/05/2026 14:08

Their egos are far bigger than their experience or commitment to the safety of girls and women. Suspect Harriet Harman is a role model for them - all feather bedding a good living in politics for themselves while self identifying as feminists and ethical politicians.

All 3 are towering disappointments.🙄

Just to add - I hate feeling like this about women politicians as I recognise they get a much harder time than men in politics. Transactivism has done so much harm - to society in general and also to relationships between women. These 3 are the perfect examples of apparently intelligent women signing up to the ludicrous belief that men are women when they say they are and expecting everyone else to abandon our knowledge, integrity, wish to safeguard the young and to centre women in our feminism.

It's hard not to despair.

moto748e · 12/05/2026 21:07

Can't disagree. I didn't know we had a Victims Minister. Is the post necessary? Has it achieved anything? To my suspicious mind, it sounds a bit Jim Hacker-ish 'being seen to be doing something'.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 12/05/2026 21:41

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/05/2026 19:21

Just to add - I hate feeling like this about women politicians as I recognise they get a much harder time than men in politics. Transactivism has done so much harm - to society in general and also to relationships between women. These 3 are the perfect examples of apparently intelligent women signing up to the ludicrous belief that men are women when they say they are and expecting everyone else to abandon our knowledge, integrity, wish to safeguard the young and to centre women in our feminism.

It's hard not to despair.

It is.

Unfortunately the women who get selected have got there by being very good girls who have won at the game of Patriarchy, and keep the men happy. They're not going to rock the boat. The ones that do like Joanna Cherry, don't last long.

moto748e · 12/05/2026 22:05

Or Rosie Duffield!

Keeptoiletssafe · 15/05/2026 16:05

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/05/2026 19:21

Just to add - I hate feeling like this about women politicians as I recognise they get a much harder time than men in politics. Transactivism has done so much harm - to society in general and also to relationships between women. These 3 are the perfect examples of apparently intelligent women signing up to the ludicrous belief that men are women when they say they are and expecting everyone else to abandon our knowledge, integrity, wish to safeguard the young and to centre women in our feminism.

It's hard not to despair.

I like to think of it as seeing the best in everybody. Like the assumption of going to the (non-domestic) toilet means going for a wee, poo or changing sanitary products. That ‘fixing’ toilets to make them enclosed ‘just like home’ will save everyone’s blushes.

Then there is reality of what actually happens.

teawamutu · 15/05/2026 16:05

Is she seriously going to do it? I thought the turmoil would be her excuse for kicking it even further down the road.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 15/05/2026 16:49

teawamutu · 15/05/2026 16:05

Is she seriously going to do it? I thought the turmoil would be her excuse for kicking it even further down the road.

Perfect opportunity to bury the announcement amid the chaos!

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 15/05/2026 17:19

Mmn. She may put the code out. There's 40 days to discuss. I'll bet the HoC reject it and it'll go back for re writing. And we can start another 18 month cycle. Or an attempt to change the law.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 15/05/2026 17:25

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 15/05/2026 17:19

Mmn. She may put the code out. There's 40 days to discuss. I'll bet the HoC reject it and it'll go back for re writing. And we can start another 18 month cycle. Or an attempt to change the law.

That’s well hard. An MP needs to table a prayer motion, get it, get the debate scheduled AND win the vote all in 40 days. They have bigger fish to fry. I think they’d rather it went away.

if I am remembering this right that’s happened once post ww2.

NotAtMyAge · 15/05/2026 18:25

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 15/05/2026 17:25

That’s well hard. An MP needs to table a prayer motion, get it, get the debate scheduled AND win the vote all in 40 days. They have bigger fish to fry. I think they’d rather it went away.

if I am remembering this right that’s happened once post ww2.

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Yes, back in 1979.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 16/05/2026 11:32

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 15/05/2026 17:25

That’s well hard. An MP needs to table a prayer motion, get it, get the debate scheduled AND win the vote all in 40 days. They have bigger fish to fry. I think they’d rather it went away.

if I am remembering this right that’s happened once post ww2.

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That's reassuring, I do hope so!

lanadelgrey · 16/05/2026 12:04

she was interviewed for Week in Westminster today and said she would lay it in May.
Bet she pulls a sickie on Thursday or simply forgets

IdaGlossop · 16/05/2026 12:38

Having already written to my (female, Muslim, Labour) MP to say they have lost my vote after 47 years over the trans issues and this ludicrous delay, I will be writing again if the guidance isn't laid before the HoC in May.

I come back to my original thinking on this issue: about seven years ago, I realised I didn't understand it and thought it was because my scientific knowledge was lacking and that it was very complicated. I read about it and did understand it, and was incredulous that the ideas its proponents embrace could have gained such traction.

lcakethereforeIam · 16/05/2026 13:27

I'm faintly surprised she hasn't resigned, there seems to be a bit of an epidemic, just so she doesn't have to do this.

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UtopiaPlanitia · 16/05/2026 13:39

lcakethereforeIam · 16/05/2026 13:27

I'm faintly surprised she hasn't resigned, there seems to be a bit of an epidemic, just so she doesn't have to do this.

I dunno, I can see why she hasn't because Phillipson, Reeves and Starmer all seem to be similar personality types; stubborn, lacking emotional intelligence, and stubborn 😬

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 16/05/2026 14:54

I thought one of the purported (admittedly multiple and varying) reasons why she hadn't was that she wanted to be free to get in on a leadership race.

SionnachRuadh · 16/05/2026 14:57

She definitely sees herself as a future leader. But, like Wes, she's young enough to be able to wait a few years (assuming there still is a Labour Party in a few years)

PrettyDamnCosmic · 16/05/2026 15:05

The speculation was she was dragging her feet so as not to lose support of the TRAs if she made a leadership bid.

I heard her on the radio this morning confirming she will be laying the guidance before parliament in May. Of course she didn't confirm it would be May 2026.😀

IdaGlossop · 16/05/2026 15:13

All we have to remember is Bridget Knows Best (BKB). That's why she's overturned a record number of decisions by the Teachers Regulation Agency.

I am grateful she wasn't shuffled into Wes's job, where she could do even more damage.

BeMoreBear · 16/05/2026 15:19

All we know for sure is that Bridget will do what's best for Bridget, at a time that's convenient for Bridget, with results that will, as far as is humanly possible, benefit Bridget. Anyone or anything else that gets in the way will be collateral damage, and anyone or anything else that also benefits from her decisions/actions/timing will be simply an afterthought.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 16/05/2026 15:28

That's why she's overturned a record number of decisions by the Teachers Regulation Agency.

According to this article she overruled the panel 18 times in 2025-26 which is the most since 2021-22 so not a record after all.

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/phillipson-overturns-1-in-12-verdicts-in-teacher-misconduct-cases/

Phillipson overturns 1 in 12 teacher misconduct verdicts

Findings prompt warnings that public trust in the Teaching Regulation Agency process could be undermined

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/phillipson-overturns-1-in-12-verdicts-in-teacher-misconduct-cases/

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 16/05/2026 15:37

IdaGlossop · 16/05/2026 15:13

All we have to remember is Bridget Knows Best (BKB). That's why she's overturned a record number of decisions by the Teachers Regulation Agency.

I am grateful she wasn't shuffled into Wes's job, where she could do even more damage.

Oh wow https://schoolsweek.co.uk/phillipson-overturns-1-in-12-verdicts-in-teacher-misconduct-cases/

These were mostly teachers whose panels recommended against sanctions and the DfE gave sanctions anyway. So not bad teachers being let off, but teachers whose alleged wrongdoings weren't proven being penalised anyway.

In February, Darlington teacher Samuel Everett was banned from teaching, with two year review period, after posting on social media remarks “related to immigration and gender”. This was despite the panel recommending against the issuing of a prohibition order.

Emphasis mine. I wonder how many of these teachers were sanctioned against panel recommendations for wrongthink?

Phillipson overturns 1 in 12 teacher misconduct verdicts

Findings prompt warnings that public trust in the Teaching Regulation Agency process could be undermined

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/phillipson-overturns-1-in-12-verdicts-in-teacher-misconduct-cases/

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