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Soontobe60 · 21/01/2026 07:10

RhannionKPSS · 20/01/2026 23:12

Nurse Melle was on the phone to a doctor discussing the treatment the male prisoner was to have and he overheard her. The fact that he is a male was particularly relevant to his treatment.

Yes, I believe they were discussing a catheter, where the correct sex of a patient is vitally important!

bigbadbernard · 21/01/2026 07:45

Is any gardening required? I had a look but could only find one apparently by a friend, wasn't sure it was genuine.

guinnessguzzler · 21/01/2026 09:48

Fantastic news but ridiculous that yet another woman has been put through so much stress because of this nonsense ideology.

Floisme · 21/01/2026 10:19

Like pretty much everyone else on this thread, I'm both relieved for Jennifer and furious that it happened and will presumably continue to happen until the people instigating and enforcing these policies are held to account.

CraftyRedBird · 21/01/2026 10:25

I’ve read the entire thread and I’m honestly disappointed noone has mentioned this investigation was for a potential breach of patient confidentiality not misgendering. She gave media interviews with a level of detail that could easily have identified the patient. Even without naming that is potentially an NMC breach.

If a nurse refused to acknowledge a patient’s same-sex partner as their husband, told them it was their “religious belief”, then went to the press after a complaint and disclosed a load of that gay patient’s personal information to the public that might have led them to be identified, people would (rightly) be furious. 😞

eatfigs · 21/01/2026 10:32

CraftyRedBird · 21/01/2026 10:25

I’ve read the entire thread and I’m honestly disappointed noone has mentioned this investigation was for a potential breach of patient confidentiality not misgendering. She gave media interviews with a level of detail that could easily have identified the patient. Even without naming that is potentially an NMC breach.

If a nurse refused to acknowledge a patient’s same-sex partner as their husband, told them it was their “religious belief”, then went to the press after a complaint and disclosed a load of that gay patient’s personal information to the public that might have led them to be identified, people would (rightly) be furious. 😞

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Fact versus fiction. That a married same-sex couple are husband and husband or wife and wife is a fact. That a man is a woman is fiction.

Jennifer Melle did not compromise patient confidentiality, that's why they dismissed the complaint, there was no case to answer. So nothing to be furious about, sorry.

NotBadConsidering · 21/01/2026 10:34

Isn’t it funny how none of the regular TRA posters ever turn up on the trans paedophile threads?🤔

AreYouSureAskedNaomi · 21/01/2026 10:36

CraftyRedBird · 21/01/2026 10:25

I’ve read the entire thread and I’m honestly disappointed noone has mentioned this investigation was for a potential breach of patient confidentiality not misgendering. She gave media interviews with a level of detail that could easily have identified the patient. Even without naming that is potentially an NMC breach.

If a nurse refused to acknowledge a patient’s same-sex partner as their husband, told them it was their “religious belief”, then went to the press after a complaint and disclosed a load of that gay patient’s personal information to the public that might have led them to be identified, people would (rightly) be furious. 😞

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I mentioned this upthread when I was relaying what is said on reddit

I disagree that Jennifer personally has shared enough details to identify the person in question. Nowhere near.

gruit · 21/01/2026 10:52

she didn’t do anything wrong.
Its interesting how invested TRAs are in the correct use of pronouns for bloody paodophiles

ThatBlackCat · 21/01/2026 11:16

Have not yet Read The Full Thread but the hospital owes Jennifer Melle a full, public apology. And, reassurance that this will never happen again. That no nurse will ever again go through what she went through.

KittyWilkinson · 21/01/2026 11:18

Yes gruit it's a guarantee that someone will turn up on a thread to voice the hurty feelz of male nonces and perverts. It really does reinforce what the real agenda is here. And it's not a genuine concern for Human Rights.

EasternStandard · 21/01/2026 11:19

Poor woman, this is so bad. With all this stuff the process is punishment enough.

ItsCoolForCats · 21/01/2026 11:25

Is one of her tribunal claims about their policy on pronouns? And how this conflicts with her GC and religious beliefs? So will look at the lawfulness of that policy?

SirChenjins · 21/01/2026 12:43

CraftyRedBird · 21/01/2026 10:25

I’ve read the entire thread and I’m honestly disappointed noone has mentioned this investigation was for a potential breach of patient confidentiality not misgendering. She gave media interviews with a level of detail that could easily have identified the patient. Even without naming that is potentially an NMC breach.

If a nurse refused to acknowledge a patient’s same-sex partner as their husband, told them it was their “religious belief”, then went to the press after a complaint and disclosed a load of that gay patient’s personal information to the public that might have led them to be identified, people would (rightly) be furious. 😞

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Fear not - from the BBC website

The trust said it was concerned confidential details about the patient's appearance, diagnosis and treatment were shared with the media - but it found no evidence that the patient had been identified.

As for your attempt at an analogy - do you know how ridiculous that looks? A same sex husband is a husband - a bloke is not, and never will be, a woman. No-one is required to believe that or pretend to believe that, nor is it a requirement for anyone to use wrong sex pronouns - the law is very clear on that.

RoyalCorgi · 21/01/2026 13:03

ItsCoolForCats · 21/01/2026 11:25

Is one of her tribunal claims about their policy on pronouns? And how this conflicts with her GC and religious beliefs? So will look at the lawfulness of that policy?

Can't find precise details. Sex Matters say she is suing the trust for discrimination, harassment and breach of her human rights.

From what I remember reading before, she is arguing that being forced to refer to someone by their gender identity, rather than their sex, conflicts with her religious belief that you cannot change sex. Religious belief is of course a protected characteristic under the Equality Act. I don't know if she also intends to claim that it conflicts with her gender-critical belief, which is also protected, of course.

The Human Rights Act protects freedom of thought and freedom to practise one's religion, so that's interesting too, because previous tribunal claims have, if I'm not mistaken, relied on the Equality Act rather than the HRA.

Harassment is fairly straightforward, I think, in that they clearly disciplined her and made life difficult for her purely because she referred to a man as "he".

RhannionKPSS · 21/01/2026 13:08

The pervert was in hospital, accompanied by a prison officer, to have a catheter inserted, so knowing his sex was rather important for the procedure.

He abused Jennifer Melle by using a particularly vile racist comment so I hope the police are involved to get him done for racist abuse

ItsCoolForCats · 21/01/2026 13:38

RoyalCorgi · 21/01/2026 13:03

Can't find precise details. Sex Matters say she is suing the trust for discrimination, harassment and breach of her human rights.

From what I remember reading before, she is arguing that being forced to refer to someone by their gender identity, rather than their sex, conflicts with her religious belief that you cannot change sex. Religious belief is of course a protected characteristic under the Equality Act. I don't know if she also intends to claim that it conflicts with her gender-critical belief, which is also protected, of course.

The Human Rights Act protects freedom of thought and freedom to practise one's religion, so that's interesting too, because previous tribunal claims have, if I'm not mistaken, relied on the Equality Act rather than the HRA.

Harassment is fairly straightforward, I think, in that they clearly disciplined her and made life difficult for her purely because she referred to a man as "he".

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Thanks @RoyalCorgi. Should be a really interesting case.

PassTheHanky · 21/01/2026 13:48

"He abused Jennifer Melle by using a particularly vile racist comment so I hope the police are involved to get him done for racist abuse"

I read one article which said the Trust had written to the prisoner to tell him that racial abuse wasn't allowed. No mention was made of the police being involved.

I wonder if the prisoner/paedophile was:
a) really upset after the Trust told him he was out of order or
b) laughing up his sleeve and not a bit bothered by the upset he'd caused to the poor nurse who had tried to help him.

It's appalling that bad faith actors are allowed to affect hard working nurses' lives so badly and get away with it.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 21/01/2026 13:53

Why does it always take years for NHS trusts to get to the point where they decide there was nothing to answer for. Do they put the staff on the disciplinary pathway on a waiting list like the patients are. 🤯

InflagranteDelicto · 21/01/2026 14:04

Brilliant news, I'm so pleased for her.

It should never have escalated like this though.

SirChenjins · 21/01/2026 14:35

RoyalCorgi · 21/01/2026 13:03

Can't find precise details. Sex Matters say she is suing the trust for discrimination, harassment and breach of her human rights.

From what I remember reading before, she is arguing that being forced to refer to someone by their gender identity, rather than their sex, conflicts with her religious belief that you cannot change sex. Religious belief is of course a protected characteristic under the Equality Act. I don't know if she also intends to claim that it conflicts with her gender-critical belief, which is also protected, of course.

The Human Rights Act protects freedom of thought and freedom to practise one's religion, so that's interesting too, because previous tribunal claims have, if I'm not mistaken, relied on the Equality Act rather than the HRA.

Harassment is fairly straightforward, I think, in that they clearly disciplined her and made life difficult for her purely because she referred to a man as "he".

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Oh I so hope this goes ahead. The law is very clear on both - it will be a delight watching the Trust trying to argue that.

nicepotoftea · 21/01/2026 19:15

SirChenjins · 21/01/2026 12:43

Fear not - from the BBC website

The trust said it was concerned confidential details about the patient's appearance, diagnosis and treatment were shared with the media - but it found no evidence that the patient had been identified.

As for your attempt at an analogy - do you know how ridiculous that looks? A same sex husband is a husband - a bloke is not, and never will be, a woman. No-one is required to believe that or pretend to believe that, nor is it a requirement for anyone to use wrong sex pronouns - the law is very clear on that.

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I don't remember hearing much about his appearance, but his diagnosis and treatment were relevant to the reasons why it was necessary to refer to his sex.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/01/2026 00:58

CraftyRedBird · 21/01/2026 10:25

I’ve read the entire thread and I’m honestly disappointed noone has mentioned this investigation was for a potential breach of patient confidentiality not misgendering. She gave media interviews with a level of detail that could easily have identified the patient. Even without naming that is potentially an NMC breach.

If a nurse refused to acknowledge a patient’s same-sex partner as their husband, told them it was their “religious belief”, then went to the press after a complaint and disclosed a load of that gay patient’s personal information to the public that might have led them to be identified, people would (rightly) be furious. 😞

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Why do you think she went to the media in the first place? It’s Jennifer Melle who has been wronged here.

1984Now · 22/01/2026 11:38

ItsCoolForCats · 22/01/2026 10:55

I mean, that's just so ladylike. Coz' y'know, the feelz.

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