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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dylan Mulvaney cast as Anne Boleyn

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dementedpixie · 16/01/2026 22:03

Came up on fb and thought it was satire to start with! Would put me off going to see it tbh

Dylan Mulvaney cast as Anne Boleyn
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AlleycatMarie · 17/01/2026 10:56

dementedpixie · 16/01/2026 22:03

Came up on fb and thought it was satire to start with! Would put me off going to see it tbh

It sounds like you haven’t seen it previously?! You say this would put you off seeing it, but given it’s been around for years already, if you haven’t bothered booking tickets previously, it’s not really casting this person that is putting you off seeing it?

I love this show, seen it several times. If someone has been cast in this it is due to their incredible talent. Good enough for me!

I’m also fairly certain that for every person who won’t see it ‘because of this’ there will be more people who book tickets because of the very fact that this show is diverse in its castings. So probably no loss to all involved in it.

As I said, it’s a shame for you that you are missing out on a brilliant show but that’s up to you (unless I’m mistaken and you have already seen it, it which case, please disregard my comment).

DorotheaDiamond · 17/01/2026 10:58

5128gap · 17/01/2026 10:50

Yes, that would have been the better choice. Instead the one Henry doesn't fancy has in both the productions I've seen, been played by the only woman of colour in the line up.

I’ve always seen it with Katherine of Aragorn and Anne of Cleeves as women of colour, I think I’ve also seen there have been casts with East Asian actresses (plus I believe an all Japanese cast in Tokyo)…I’m not sure if it’s a “rule “ that Cleeves is always black though…might be!

as an aside you can only get a license to perform Hairspray if you can correctly racially cast all the characters - so if you want to do it at a school that is not very racially mixed you can’t. (Ooh there’s another good topic to discuss)

PatchouliPrincess · 17/01/2026 10:58

I thought pantomime season had finished.

VikingsandDragons · 17/01/2026 11:00

Would certainly put a twist on history if it had been unearthed that the reason Henry VIII beheaded his second wife was because he'd been decieved into marrying a bloke in a dress. I'd be pretty pissed too.

ColourThief · 17/01/2026 11:02

Oh, look! Another transphobic post on Mumsnet!
What a shocking surprise, these never happen!

Bore off and get a hobby 🙄🥱

Dollyfloss · 17/01/2026 11:04

Women can’t have anything to themselves can they?

Hands up who thinks we’ll ever see a woman playing Hamilton..?

Maerchentante · 17/01/2026 11:04

I just had a gander on the FB page. Seems DM is in the Broadway version of Six, still would very much put me off seeing SIX again.
Strangely, all the comment on that post are fawning over DM, so either moderated in advance or heavy deletion going on.

Also had a look at the comments on the playbill page and there are a few comments which are a bit more critical.

My niece desparately wants to go to London and see SIX, but I held off for now as here English is not good enough quite yet.

TakeTheCuntingQuichePatricia · 17/01/2026 11:05

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/01/2026 09:55

Cross sex casting can be really effective. You see the character in a new way and you also see how your own expectations are shaped by sex.

The reason it works is because the actor's sex is not the sex of the character (or the sex they are usually played as). The difference is what makes it work.

However when it comes to trans casting, the fundamental article of faith we are supposed to accept is that the trans identity is that there is no difference between a trans actor's sex and the sex of the character. We have to pretend we think trans women are just as much women as female people. And therefore the only interesting thing about trans casting is a thing we are not allowed to acknowledge and are told we are bad people to think about.

In short, cross sex casting is done for the sake of the play and the audience, trans casting is done for the sake of the trans actor and the producers' egos. It's not really surprising that the first works and the second doesn't.

This is an interesting point. Recast the whole story so Queen Henrietta divorces/murders her husbands because they can't get her pregnant. Changes the narrative a bit.

I wish I'd been able to see Cynthia Erivo as Jesus in JCSS, hopefully it will be available online one day. Thinking of Jesus as female changes the narrative imo.

Casting a TW so we're all supposed to pretend its an actual woman isn't the same

5128gap · 17/01/2026 11:08

DorotheaDiamond · 17/01/2026 10:58

I’ve always seen it with Katherine of Aragorn and Anne of Cleeves as women of colour, I think I’ve also seen there have been casts with East Asian actresses (plus I believe an all Japanese cast in Tokyo)…I’m not sure if it’s a “rule “ that Cleeves is always black though…might be!

as an aside you can only get a license to perform Hairspray if you can correctly racially cast all the characters - so if you want to do it at a school that is not very racially mixed you can’t. (Ooh there’s another good topic to discuss)

Not sure either. Just noted in the performances I saw that the one who was not white was the only one attractive only due to the fakery of 'The House of Holbein'. And now we have the most famous and popular of the six, who made the greatest impact historically, and has the best part in the show, played by a man.

dementedpixie · 17/01/2026 11:08

AlleycatMarie · 17/01/2026 10:56

It sounds like you haven’t seen it previously?! You say this would put you off seeing it, but given it’s been around for years already, if you haven’t bothered booking tickets previously, it’s not really casting this person that is putting you off seeing it?

I love this show, seen it several times. If someone has been cast in this it is due to their incredible talent. Good enough for me!

I’m also fairly certain that for every person who won’t see it ‘because of this’ there will be more people who book tickets because of the very fact that this show is diverse in its castings. So probably no loss to all involved in it.

As I said, it’s a shame for you that you are missing out on a brilliant show but that’s up to you (unless I’m mistaken and you have already seen it, it which case, please disregard my comment).

I have seen it!
I dont like him and his over the top pretending to be a woman

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misscockerspaniel · 17/01/2026 11:12

zanahoria · 16/01/2026 22:39

The beheading may be worth it

Nah - this is the version where Henry V111 yells "Off with his balls!!!"

Cosyfriendship · 17/01/2026 11:13

@ifeelprettyandwitty "women who never had a voice at the time being humanised as really people."
Many women of their status did keep in touch with their families and were able to accomplish much both within there estates and as diplomats. Many were educated to a high level. especially languages.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 17/01/2026 11:15

dementedpixie · 17/01/2026 11:08

I have seen it!
I dont like him and his over the top pretending to be a woman

Agree. I’ve only seen DM on YouTube, so l may be missing something, but the fact that they have cast a trans woman in this role at all , let alone one who seems to think womanhood is mostly about dressing in floaty clothes and going shopping, is deeply insulting to the women who suffered at Henry’s hands simply because of their biology.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 17/01/2026 11:18

Stunt casting. The Broadway show seems to have a lot of empty seats, maybe they're trying to appeal to what they think of as a core audience when they'd be better trying to expand the show's reach by casting female celebs.

Writer Toby Marlow took over the London role of Parr at one point and frankly, having seen video clips, I'd have got my money back. Will DM be any better? He's an odd and possibly unlucky choice.

FairKoala · 17/01/2026 11:20

CarefullyCuratedFurniture · 16/01/2026 22:33

The writers of Six apparently thought they were being all new and original by including gay and queer people in their show...because those people are so marginalised in the theatre and there are very few gay and queer people working in the performing arts.

Could someone please help me rescue my eyeballs, they appear to have rolled out of my actual head.

😂😂😂

TakeTheCuntingQuichePatricia · 17/01/2026 11:23

DorotheaDiamond · 17/01/2026 10:07

2 things - first totally agree with you about the man in legally blonde - was rubbish! But then much as I loved the actress playing Elle I wasn’t sure about her casting either - but that’s a different discussion.

the thing about having women playing Richard 3 is that they are women who they director has intentionally chosen for their skill, and either they have crossed the whole role (so female clothing/talking about her not him) or they are dressed convincingly as men. There are far fewer really meaty parts for women in Shakespeare- I totally get why female actors want a chance at them. I’ve also seen it with female Hamlet and male Ophelia (6 foot with chest hair showing over his strapless ball gown)…that was a disaster as the cognitive dissonance made it impossible to focus on the words - good Shakespeare isn’t always easy to follow at the best of times.

also saw it with Ian McKelken as hamlet (only 70 years or so too old ) - that was really bad - I don’t know if it was just hideous costuming choices (scruffy tracksuit) but all I got was senile petulant old man not angry youth. Which is a shame because his Lear was astoundingly brilliant.

but the issue with DM isn’t about cross dressing/casting - it’s about the fact that he and the writers/directors are pretending that he’s a women being cast as a woman. Cast Tom Holland and I’ll come and see it like a shot (look for him dancing to Umbrella)…because he’s not claiming to be female. (Actually still don’t think casting a man as one of the 6 is appropriate but I can see he would be amazing).

However in a slight ray of hope I am seeing fewer pronouns in bios in programs these days…

Cast Tom Holland and I’ll come and see it like a shot (look for him dancing to Umbrella)

I'd watch Tom Holland in anything tbh. But be warned, him doing the Umbrella dance must be at least 6 hours long. Wink

Deadringer · 17/01/2026 11:32

The pantomime dame point doesn't work here though, this is a show about real women, some of whom were murdered because they weren't 'woman' enough to produce a healthy son. Their womanhood was the whole point of their role as queen, and the only reason they were chosen in the first place. Tbf, I dont know anything about Six, and the format does sounds quite fresh and fun, but if its some sort of parody, it would make more sense if all of the roles were performed by trans women, or even drag queens. Just putting one in there doesn't make any sense, especially to play the arguably most glamorous, intelligent, strong one, except as a fuck you to women.

Glamourreader · 17/01/2026 11:47

I always felt this show was deeply disrespectful to the real lives of the women portrayed anyway. They lived and died with so much dignity how could they not be horrified by this shite.

Casting a man is obviously deeply insulting. These are not Disney characters.

SidewaysOtter · 17/01/2026 11:48

I loathe musical theatre at the best of times (stop fucking singing and GET ON WITH IT) so I’d rather stand in Lego than watch Dylan gurn his way through his usual performatively offensive woman face.

Still, I’m surprised they haven’t replaced the entire cast of women with drag queens.

NewsOfMidLevelPortent · 17/01/2026 11:52

Yuck. Could they not find an actual woman to play the role? Obviously a political statement, which is always a great basis for casting.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2026 11:56

ColourThief · 17/01/2026 11:02

Oh, look! Another transphobic post on Mumsnet!
What a shocking surprise, these never happen!

Bore off and get a hobby 🙄🥱

You first 🤷‍♀️

shuggles · 17/01/2026 11:58

lurcherlover · 16/01/2026 22:09

The original AB was executed because she failed to produce a baby with a penis. The Tudors were in no doubt at all that sex was a biological concept and all six Queens were at Henry’s mercy as a result of their biology and nothing else. Women could not identify out of their oppression and no man would have wanted to adopt it. This is really disrespectful to the memories of those women.

If they could have identified out of it, they likely would have wound up on a cold French battlefield instead.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2026 12:00

Was our Eucalyptus-eating friend a PBP? All their posts seem to have been nixed.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 17/01/2026 12:00

ColourThief · 17/01/2026 11:02

Oh, look! Another transphobic post on Mumsnet!
What a shocking surprise, these never happen!

Bore off and get a hobby 🙄🥱

You... you think the person discarded and beheaded because she did not bear a male child could actually have been a trans woman?

Never mind a hobby, I think you need some remedial classes 😂Biology, history and sociology would be a good start.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 17/01/2026 12:11

Laura95167 · 17/01/2026 10:08

In theatre dont they play different genders all the time?

This isn’t about gender bending or pushing the boundaries of art… this is about a man playing a female part and the audience having to pretend they believe he is actually a woman, not playing a woman, actually a woman in real life.