Open letter: Mothers Appeal To Mumsnet CEO Justine Roberts

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Mumsnet is a powerhouse, and your advocacy for the protection of women and children carries real political weight. With every Prime Minister since David Cameron fielding your questions, it’s clear that when you speak, policymakers listen. No mother would turn away from the suffering of a child -and the children of Gaza are still suffering needlessly. Together as mothers, we can help.

While many parents may not feel confident enough to speak out themselves, your leadership now would galvanise them to demand tangible actions to get life saving supplies into Gaza and create safe conditions for women to give birth, giving those mothers and babies a chance at life. We cannot leave them alone in the New Year.

From https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XJv6qEHsa8XAQHfc_wjzUvNTqI2uCrvU0k45uk8H-UM/edit?tab=t.0

Irrespective of what they are asking, why aren't the asking politicians. Why are they asking Justine Roberts to do it for them.
https://www.artsprofessional.co.uk/news/cultural-heavyweights-call-for-action-to-help-mothers-in-gaza-after-aid-ban

Cant find anything about this on mumsnet, not sure which forum it would be in. Or is it a pritvate matter. Nothing to do with mumsnet itself?

The Nazis wanted to kill all Jews. I think it's pretty clear who's on the side of the Nazis here. Hamas.

And the reason Israel have placed restrictions on aid groups in the first place is because Hamas are allegedly appropriating aid. So they think some western money is going directly to those who have the same aim as the Nazis - the killing of all Jews (and destruction of the state of Israel) and want to place safeguards in place to ensure it actually is used for its intended humanitarian purpose.

As PP have pointed out, if you cared about women and babies you wouldn't only be focused on Gaza . When it comes to Gaza it doesn't help Palestinian mothers and babies if aid can just be appropriated (stolen) by Hamas (or indeed other groups -there are militias opposing Hamas who have also been taking it according to the New York times).

I find the use of a Nazi slur against Mumsnetters in this context highly antisemitic

And also, the UK government HAS ALREADY and IS trying to ensure aid agencies can have access. There are plenty of resources to go in, it's a question of access in a war zone and slinging insults around won't help with that - in fact likely the opposite. This sort of behaviour is more likely to harden Israel's stance than anything else and prevent access to those aligned with people slinging around antisemitic insults.

This sort of behaviour is more likely to harden Israel's stance than anything else and prevent access to those aligned with people slinging around antisemitic insults.

I'm pretty sure it will have absolutely zero impact on anyone outwith this site and some select bubbles, tbh. It's not a serious letter.

Seems you are totally unaware that before October 7th Gazan children were regularly transported to hospitals in Tel Aviv for life saving surgery. You actually seem oblivious and totally unawarwe of many things; including the history of Jewish people isn the Middle East.

So killing thousands of children is ok because they are helping a few ... Great logic.

The Israelites are mentioned in the bible. The kingdom of Judah and the Kingdom of Israel pre-date the British mandate by multiple hundreds of years. Learn some history.

Yes, true. The letter is a joke.

I really meant in general the unthinking activism that doesn't recognise complexity in the situation.

Is anyone really wondering why the Israeli hardline have gained ground against that backdrop? I'm not.

Who has said the deaths of children is " fine"?

Any yes Jewish people have had a significant presence in the middle east for many years Jews, Muslims and Christians lived in peace and harmony in Palestine prior to the state of Israel being created

You know that Hamas see children as nothing but potential martyrs for their cause. Why do you think that the population of Gaza has increased exponentially since Israel withdrew in 2005? Children are brought up and educated to hate jews and to wish for their death.

"Our women's wombs are our weapons"

No they didn't; don't be so ignorant. The history of the Middle East is a history of successive empires; successive warlords and successive slaughters of populations.

Judaism pre-dates Islam by over a thousand years.

What you are calling Palestine was known as 'southern syria' to the arab populations. And jewish peoples from that area are as much Palestinians as any muslim arabs are.

Yes my understanding is that Hamas actively welcome the deaths of their own citizens if it is towards their great aim of destroying Israel (based on detailed journalism and the words of Hamas themselves). They don't seek to avoid child or other civilian deaths, they think that civilians should rush to give their lives for the greater cause and that such deaths are not only justified but to be welcomed and noble / will result in heaven.

This is why they think using civilians as human shields is ok.

Western activism (by dim people - not all activists etc) usually fails to recognise this fundamental difference in mindset between Hamas and western activists, which is why it can be counterproductive and lead to a situation of MORE civilian deaths (that they purport to want to prevent).

If aid goes into Gaza and is stolen by Hamas who then use the money they gain from selling it to build more underground tunnels, get more weapons and store more weapons under civilian populations, that is putting those civilians at more rather than less risk of death. In multiple ways.

Any aid that goes towards strengthening Hamas is likely to make things worse for normal Palestinians as far as number of deaths goes as far as I can tell at this point. So asking that aid agencies demonstrate their safeguards against this happening really isn't unreasonable - not if you really want to prevent human suffering rather than aid Hamas in their goal of destroying Israel.

I do hope you're taking the piss.

Learn some history ...for the sake of your own kids. There is a world beyond GB news

You are utterly embarrassing yourself.

Rather that than whine when people are trying to stop a genocide. I mean seriously what kind of protests when people are actively trying to stop children being murdered ... Take a look hard look in the mirror

If only they'd thought to write this letter to MN when it first launched, just think how many lives could have been saved in all the genocides and wars we've had in the last 26 years 🙄

This is just abject nonsense. Jesus was Jewish, lived in Judea - so the Jewish presence predates Christianity and Islam by thousands of years. Please learn some actual history.

Hmmm Jesus was Jewish.... I think a lot of Christians would have issues with that. So you propose we go back to how things were 3000 years ago. Very intellectual and forward thinking 🤔

Why not both?

Yes, Jesus absolutely was Jewish. Did you think he was Buddhist? If you don’t have a grasp of the absolute basics about history or religion, maybe google things? Sigh.

To be clear I did previously know Jesus was Jewish.

However, to demonstrate just what lengths someone needs to go to to be wrong about this, I just typed in 'Jesus and Judaism' into my search bar.

The copilot first sentence was this:

In Judaism, Jesus is viewed as an ordinary Jewish man and not as the Messiah or divine figure, with beliefs about him differing significantly from those in Christianity.

There is more, and it's referenced.

I'm going with both.