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AI is really worrying and I fear this sort of image generation is tip of the iceberg

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mids2019 · 02/01/2026 21:22

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98p1r4e6m8o

I don't know to what extent current legislation covers this but to my mind any woman with an image on the net could be prone to this. Are we going to reach a stage where our daughters are going to simply not want any image taken of them for fear of how it could be manipulated?

A woman looks back over her shoulder, wearing red lipstick and gold hoops, in front of a Christmas tree

Woman felt 'dehumanised' after Musk's Grok AI used to digitally remove her clothes

The BBC has seen several examples of it undressing women and putting them in sexual situations without their consent.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98p1r4e6m8o

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RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 09/01/2026 01:12

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/01/2026 01:05

Ah, that explains why you are ignoring the fact that Grok is programmed to pornify images. It even gives wee "prompts" to make the image more extreme. Musk used that feature to advertise it. He then hosts the pictures refusing to remove them despite victims asking him.

He's a pornographer now. One of the biggest pornographers in the world. Feminists notice these things.

I refer you to FlirtsWithRhinos' post at 00:45.

TooBigForMyBoots · 09/01/2026 01:18

Why?

PollyNomial · 09/01/2026 07:14

FlirtsWithRhinos · 09/01/2026 00:45

  1. The headlines may be about Musk, but this type of AI abuse is endemic.
  2. I'm not suggesting making images of Musk will change anything, I'm suggesting making men in general worried that random women might be using AI to make convincingly real images of them looking like twats and sharing and posting them online where their employers, friends and family might see them.

Only one (mainstream) social media platform has the relevant tooling embedded and is actively permitting this which is why it's about him and his cesspit.

Many of the users creating these appalling images are (wisely) anonymous; it's not clear how they could be shamed in retaliation. But we know who is enabling these images and their distribution.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 09/01/2026 09:14

PollyNomial · 09/01/2026 07:14

Only one (mainstream) social media platform has the relevant tooling embedded and is actively permitting this which is why it's about him and his cesspit.

Many of the users creating these appalling images are (wisely) anonymous; it's not clear how they could be shamed in retaliation. But we know who is enabling these images and their distribution.

Again, you miss the point.

I'm not saying shame individual men in retribution. I'm saying make all men worry they could be a target, for no reason whatsoever except some woman fancied a laugh at their expense.

Make AI image abuse a social problem for men - not just guilty men, not just famous men, not just other men, but so that any man knows and really understands it could happen to him, and it will start to be taken seriously.

Christinapple · 09/01/2026 09:49

www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/elon-musks-grok-ai-image-editing-limited-to-paid-users-after-deepfakes/ar-AA1TRWJE

In response to concerns, Elon Musk has removed the ability for Grok to create images for non-paying users.

However Grok is still able to and still will create sexually abusive and illegal images for subscribers/blue ticks.

So is this a victory? It has already been confirmed by the IWF that such images were being made by the minute every minute in their thousand and did include images which are CP. Since perverts and pedos have been enjoying themselves on Twitter a little too much thanks to Elon Musk, all they have to do to keep making new CP is to give EM money for a blue tick and they can continue doing so.

Doesn't feel like a "victory" to me. Given the circumstances it seems like EM is simply offering CP for payment.

https://www.iraqinews.com/tech/eu-orders-musks-grok-ai-to-keep-data-after-nudes-outcry/

The EU has ordered EM to keep all the Grok data for investigation. Hopefully the pedos and revenge porn pervs will be traced and charged.

TheaBrandt1 · 09/01/2026 10:15

God men are pathetic. How embarrassing that they use their clever tech to do this 🙄.

The only reaction surely is utter scorn. If you go to that much trouble to see me naked knock yourself out you sad sack. Don’t take in embarrassment- it’s them they should be embarrassed to go to this much effort to see our imaginary boobs.

FirstCuppa · 09/01/2026 10:44

FlirtsWithRhinos · 08/01/2026 19:04

Actually the best way to fight this is probably for women to be known to be sharing humiliating pictures of men.

Not sexual (too many like that) just making men look really really stupid.

Naked leaving skid marks on a couch
Licking a tramp
Kicking a pony
Drunk and begging for money with vomit round his mouth
On all fours with a bridle with an out of shape cabbie on his back

Just really icky humilitating images

Men are, after all, famously afraid of being laughed at. We should hit them where it hurts.

I think a viral trend showing men sulking and throwing strops would be funny and probably something most women could relate to. Sometimes they literally fold their arms and pout. The texting sulks where they don't reply for days, the car door slams the refusals to do basic life skills or attend family events. The worry is that it would increase violence against women, as everything seems to be an excuse for.

PollyNomial · 09/01/2026 14:54

FlirtsWithRhinos · 09/01/2026 09:14

Again, you miss the point.

I'm not saying shame individual men in retribution. I'm saying make all men worry they could be a target, for no reason whatsoever except some woman fancied a laugh at their expense.

Make AI image abuse a social problem for men - not just guilty men, not just famous men, not just other men, but so that any man knows and really understands it could happen to him, and it will start to be taken seriously.

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I'm not - because of the biases Musk has introduced as a "free speech absolutist", lol, such images (which would potentially include him) would get actually or virtually no traction/audience and makes the potential threat meaningless.

PollyNomial · 09/01/2026 14:57

Christinapple · 09/01/2026 09:49

www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/elon-musks-grok-ai-image-editing-limited-to-paid-users-after-deepfakes/ar-AA1TRWJE

In response to concerns, Elon Musk has removed the ability for Grok to create images for non-paying users.

However Grok is still able to and still will create sexually abusive and illegal images for subscribers/blue ticks.

So is this a victory? It has already been confirmed by the IWF that such images were being made by the minute every minute in their thousand and did include images which are CP. Since perverts and pedos have been enjoying themselves on Twitter a little too much thanks to Elon Musk, all they have to do to keep making new CP is to give EM money for a blue tick and they can continue doing so.

Doesn't feel like a "victory" to me. Given the circumstances it seems like EM is simply offering CP for payment.

https://www.iraqinews.com/tech/eu-orders-musks-grok-ai-to-keep-data-after-nudes-outcry/

The EU has ordered EM to keep all the Grok data for investigation. Hopefully the pedos and revenge porn pervs will be traced and charged.

It's not a victory because these images will still be created and distributed by that cesspit of a site. To repeat part of an earlier reply, the best weapon is boycotting the platform altogether (just like Tesla sales are tanking).

SerendipityJane · 09/01/2026 15:01

PollyNomial · 09/01/2026 14:54

I'm not - because of the biases Musk has introduced as a "free speech absolutist", lol, such images (which would potentially include him) would get actually or virtually no traction/audience and makes the potential threat meaningless.

You do realise that Good Ol' Elon isn't really a free speech fan ? He's a me speech fan. It's probably an accent thing that we don't hear it correctly.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 09/01/2026 15:47

PollyNomial · 09/01/2026 14:54

I'm not - because of the biases Musk has introduced as a "free speech absolutist", lol, such images (which would potentially include him) would get actually or virtually no traction/audience and makes the potential threat meaningless.

You are still missing the point. The images can be shared anywhere (not least because they are not sexual).

The point is not to bring down x, the point is to make the public take AI image abuse seriously, and that will only happen when enough men fear being victims.

Christinapple · 10/01/2026 09:33

FlirtsWithRhinos · 09/01/2026 15:47

You are still missing the point. The images can be shared anywhere (not least because they are not sexual).

The point is not to bring down x, the point is to make the public take AI image abuse seriously, and that will only happen when enough men fear being victims.

We can do both.

To this moment Twitter or whatever Elmo calls it still has these images on there and still permits these images to be created for blue tick users who pay for a subscription. Yes- EM is making money from ch*ld porn.

Keep up the pressure. Report any abusive sexual images you see on there to the police, IWF and Ofcom. Complain to Google and Apple app stores that Grok is breaking their terms and conditions because of it's chld porn problem. Write to your MP asking why nothing is being done about Twitter despite it breaking both chld porn laws and the Online Safety Bill.

If people sit back nothing will happen and the world's richest man will become even richer by sexually exploiting women and children.

SerendipityJane · 10/01/2026 10:21

As suggested Musk will paint anyone who objects to this as being on the side of Starmer and wanting to ban X. Which will act as a dog whistle signal to the resistance.on Mn and elsewhere that "If you oppose X/Grok you must be a state apparatchik and therefore taken out". Backed by Andrew Tate, Stephen Yaxley Lennon, and of course Obergruppenführer Farage

BrokenSunflowers · 10/01/2026 10:42

Why The focus just on X and not on the wider problem of AI generated porn? It is clear this is an attempt to shut down x not solve the problem of porn. If porn were the actual problem then men downloading thousands of images of actual child abuse would not be let off with barely a slap on the wrists, porn hub - with its thousands of rape images - would be banned, there would be a serious and urgent inquiry into grooming gangs. And legislation that affects all AI porn generation. This attack on X is nothing to do with protecting people from porn any more than removing jury trials is anything to do with tackling backlogs or not putting the EHRC guidance to parliament is about business.

SerendipityJane · 10/01/2026 10:45

Many a true word, etc

AI is really worrying and I fear this sort of image generation is tip of the iceberg
BrokenSunflowers · 10/01/2026 10:51

SerendipityJane · 10/01/2026 10:45

Many a true word, etc

Yet you don’t seem to care about it elsewhere?

BrokenSunflowers · 10/01/2026 10:57

Remember how Twitter used to be a hotbed of ‘MAPs’ before Musk took over? All the people who posted porn onto JKRs thread of children’s illustrations for her book who were never banned? And how they left for BlueSky?

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 10/01/2026 10:59

Professor Brent Mittelstadt, Professor of Data Ethics and Policy at the Oxford Internet Institute (OII) at the University of Oxford, said:
“The existence of this problem on X is unsurprising given the reduction of AI safety, ethics, and legal compliance capacity at the platform since the Twitter takeover in 2022. Work in these areas is meant to prevent precisely these sorts of risks and harmful capabilities and use cases from arising and spreading in the first place. In my view, these companies should be held to account to uphold a basic level of ethical standards, and UK regulatory bodies should bring in quick and decisive change in these cases of potential harm.
“The ‘AI nudification’ phenomenon with X/Grok is unfortunately only the tip of the iceberg concerning uses of AI to generate non-consensual intimate imagery. It is of course an important and immediate problem to fix, but the problem of using AI to generate harmful media goes much deeper. My recent research [1] shows that over 35,000 text-to-image models designed to generate non-consensual intimate imagery are freely available on public platforms. These models can be run locally on a person’s computer or smart phone, are computationally cheap, and need only a few images to generate fake images of specific people. Fixing the current problem with Grok and X will not eliminate the demand for this type of technology, nor reduce the availability of open access models capable of the generating equally harmful imagery.”

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-recent-discussions-around-ai-generated-non-consensual-sexualised-deepfakes/

expert reaction to recent discussions around AI generated non-consensual sexualised deepfakes | Science Media Centre

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-recent-discussions-around-ai-generated-non-consensual-sexualised-deepfakes/

PollyNomial · 10/01/2026 11:04

SerendipityJane · 09/01/2026 15:01

You do realise that Good Ol' Elon isn't really a free speech fan ? He's a me speech fan. It's probably an accent thing that we don't hear it correctly.

Of course, that's I why put the phrase in quotes and added lol.

He's no more in favour of free speech than Putin believes Ukraine is a sovereign state whose borders should be respected.

BrokenSunflowers · 10/01/2026 11:04

Fixing the current problem with Grok and X will not eliminate the demand for this type of technology, nor reduce the availability of open access models capable of the generating equally harmful imagery.

Quite. And the political classes don’t see much of a problem with men having the images anyway.

BrokenSunflowers · 10/01/2026 11:05

PollyNomial · 10/01/2026 11:04

Of course, that's I why put the phrase in quotes and added lol.

He's no more in favour of free speech than Putin believes Ukraine is a sovereign state whose borders should be respected.

So now you are agreeing this attack on X is not because of AI generated images but because of his political views?

SerendipityJane · 10/01/2026 11:07

PollyNomial · 10/01/2026 11:04

Of course, that's I why put the phrase in quotes and added lol.

He's no more in favour of free speech than Putin believes Ukraine is a sovereign state whose borders should be respected.

We have now learned there is no such thing as a sovereign state.

BrokenSunflowers · 10/01/2026 11:12

SerendipityJane · 10/01/2026 11:07

We have now learned there is no such thing as a sovereign state.

Yet Sovereign states and maintaining borders is one of the things people talking about on X are criticised for.

PollyNomial · 10/01/2026 11:14

FlirtsWithRhinos · 09/01/2026 15:47

You are still missing the point. The images can be shared anywhere (not least because they are not sexual).

The point is not to bring down x, the point is to make the public take AI image abuse seriously, and that will only happen when enough men fear being victims.

Yes, images created elsewhere can be shared on any platform (providing they don't trigger automated rules, such as platforms banning many breastfeeding images because they ban unclothed breasts without considering context).

Twitter goes much further because you can create and distribute these images to the whole platform with a single command and no filtering being applied.

BrokenSunflowers · 10/01/2026 11:16

PollyNomial · 10/01/2026 11:14

Yes, images created elsewhere can be shared on any platform (providing they don't trigger automated rules, such as platforms banning many breastfeeding images because they ban unclothed breasts without considering context).

Twitter goes much further because you can create and distribute these images to the whole platform with a single command and no filtering being applied.

My recent research [1] shows that over 35,000 text-to-image models designed to generate non-consensual intimate imagery are freely available on public platforms.