AI is really worrying and I fear this sort of image generation is tip of the iceberg

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98p1r4e6m8o

I don't know to what extent current legislation covers this but to my mind any woman with an image on the net could be prone to this. Are we going to reach a stage where our daughters are going to simply not want any image taken of them for fear of how it could be manipulated?

Why do you assume it hasn't happened ?

Nerdy article about multiple fails at trying to "guardrail" AI

https://www.theregister.com/2026/01/08/openai_chatgpt_prompt_injection/

Quite. I thought I’d already seen news about it… 1 quick google later. Men are disgustingly beyond belief.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/ng-interactive/2025/dec/02/the-rise-of-deepfake-pornography-in-schools

Smart glasses: 'I was secretly filmed and trolled online' - BBC News

Moving forwards with history as my guide, the ultimate resolution of the introduction of printing was to devalue (not enhance) the written word as the arbiter of truth.

All of this frothing is ultimately going to mean that whatever you see on social media will be of very little value in and of itself.

We are already there OP. Dd hasn't wanted photo's taken for at least 3 years because of this. Her school also now has to use AI generated images because they were threatened by a man who said he would post naked photos of pupils online if they didn't pay him. I think most schools have had similar from talking to friends with kids at senior schools in the last couple of years.

Tech is just being used to push women further down and violate our rights for profit.

Personally I think in a few years universities will be teaching from books again and the internet will be used with caution, with referencing needing proof in at least one book rather than just online links.

That is the least of their worries
The BIG issue is that most of them will never own a house - there will be no jobs

I think being able to maintain bodily autonomy comes before building a house over it, but you’re not wrong to point out that as a huge issue. One that affects people of both sexes and the working poor before the rich.

So what happens now? When all women and children in public places are fair game for pervs and abusers to exploit online?

You'd think men would be bored of naked women now they have free porn, apps to undress everyone at any time and no need to hide that they do it. It baffles me that many of them seem to think spending their whole life doing this is in some way meaningful.

In the long span of history, you will find a lot of the freedoms and possibilities 1945-present are very much the exception. And there is no reason to believe they will remain so as we move into the future.

If it helps,. equate house ownership with smoking. In 2076 people won't understand how either was possible.

Nothing is happening. To this moment Elon Musk's AI is still generating non-consensual porn images of women and ch*ld porn, all on Twitter for anyone to stumble across.

It's not like people only found out about this yesterday, it's been happening for some time now and has been the subject of mainstream news worldwide for over a week now.

It's time for Twitter to be outright blocked in Britain as it is breaking laws on ch*ld porn as well as in breach of the Online Safety Bill.

It's not like people only found out about this yesterday, it's been happening for some time now and has been the subject of mainstream news worldwide for over a week now.

It's been discussed for decades. And the possibility was known when the UK created the category of "non photographic images" as potentially illegal - Coroners and Justice Act 2009, which came into force on April 6, 2010.

I have no idea why you think that consent is more implied with traditional forms of media. There is no logic there and it's also clearly not been the case historically.

Companies producing products can attempt to have safety features of all kinds, but what they can do about deliberate attempts to misuse tech is limited. Especially when the capacity for creative expression is inherent in the technology.

It's the people who actually make the images that are the problem and need to be deal with harshly. There are all kinds of companies and nations going after AI, but the fact that so much is focused here on Musk is to the point - people like to blame Musk, rather than actually deal with the people who do illegal stuff.

@mumsnet I’m sure most people agree that this is something which needs a big spotlight and pressure on the levers of power. What do you think to leading a big campaign on this, similar to
the very effective ‘Let toys be toys’ one you ran some time ago?

You could try reading what I said and not inserting opinions I did not express. I am suggesting that there my be a much wider problem than X/Grok, and that focussing on Grok may distract from similar (or even identical) issues with other LLM platforms. Do you know that this is an issue with Grok only, or is it an issue with LLMs in general?

Actually the best way to fight this is probably for women to be known to be sharing humiliating pictures of men.

Not sexual (too many like that) just making men look really really stupid.

Naked leaving skid marks on a couch
Licking a tramp
Kicking a pony
Drunk and begging for money with vomit round his mouth
On all fours with a bridle with an out of shape cabbie on his back

Just really icky humilitating images

Men are, after all, famously afraid of being laughed at. We should hit them where it hurts.

I did. If Bill Gates or anyone else was responsible for the software and distribution site would you be suggesting political finger pointing?

Maybe it's just a lack of comprehension skills, or maybe I didn't express myself adequately. To clarify for anyone who didn't understand, X/Grok are being justifiably criticised. I suspect they are not the only ones with the same problem. If I am right in that suspicion, there is a much bigger problem that will not be solved by those who dislike Musk pointing their fingers at him alone.

And it won't be solved by so called feminists turning the damage this does into a culture war to shield their pet misogynists.

Supposed "free speech absolutists" like Musk would demonitise/block users who posted such images of him.

He only really cares about one thing beyond himself and the only way to damage that is to boycott his cesspit.

If you're referring to me, I'm flattered, but I don't describe myself as a feminist, and you are still (deliberately?) misunderstanding me.

1. The headlines may be about Musk, but this type of AI abuse is endemic.
2. I'm not suggesting making images of Musk will change anything, I'm suggesting making men in general worried that random women might be using AI to make convincingly real images of them looking like twats and sharing and posting them online where their employers, friends and family might see them.

Ah, that explains why you are ignoring the fact that Grok is programmed to pornify images. It even gives wee "prompts" to make the image more extreme. Musk used that feature to advertise it. He then hosts the pictures refusing to remove them despite victims asking him.

He's a pornographer now. One of the biggest pornographers in the world. Feminists notice these things.