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Mail carry out investigation into Trans terror group Bash Back

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fromorbit · 28/12/2025 14:05

Important;

Trans mob's plot to smash up the offices of senior politicians - including the Prime Minister and Wes Streeting
A transgender activist group is planning a series of attacks on senior politicians' offices, including the Prime Minister's, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Militant group Bash Back has said its sights are also set on Wes Streeting - just months after vandalising his constituency office.

The gender warriors said: 'If you think we're done, you've got another thing coming.
'MP or PM, you've seen us once, we'll see you again.'

The group's conspiracy was uncovered by this newspaper after it urged members to form 'cells' and plot criminal damage offences against high-profile targets.

A list of other potential marks include the Free Speech Union (FSU) and feminist organisation Sex Matters.

Last night, we notified the Metropolitan Police and the parliamentary security services of our findings.

FSU founder Lord Young commissioned an independent security briefing about the group, which is calling for 'total transgender liberation'.

A transgender activist group is planning a series of attacks on senior politicians' offices, including the Prime Minister's

Militant group Bash Back has said its sights are also set on Wes Streeting - just months after vandalising his constituency office

The report, obtained by The Mail on Sunday, suggests British intelligence is monitoring the trans activist cells....

In a pamphlet obtained by this newspaper, Bash Back claims to target 'organisations that promote transphobic rhetoric - from banning hormones and puberty blockers, to confining us to or defining us out of categories of woman and man, to promoting conversion therapy and facilitating hideous harassment campaigns'.

It says they 'should come to expect us', adding: 'All of our targets have blood on their hands. We refuse to let them wash it off in peace.'

Bash Back's first public attack was on Mr Streeting's Ilford North constituency office in July, when it painted 'child killer' and smashed windows months after puberty blockers were banned for children on the advice of medical experts and the Cass Review of gender identity services.

Since then, the group has formulated an action guide - seen by this newspaper - for sympathisers to carry out similar attacks.

The document details how to avoid police detection as they plot criminal damage and steal equipment while filming their actions.

A security briefing on the group - also seen by The Mail on Sunday - reveals it has gone to extensive lengths to hide its identity, including removing internal metadata from public documents and using ultra-secure email systems.

The security memo says: 'Given the first attack was on the office of a HM Gov minister, almost certainly the group responsible will be investigated by security services.'

Activists engaged in criminal activity could be among the near 3,000 profiles following Bash Back across social media platforms, the security document adds.

Maya Forstater, the chief executive of Sex Matters - also included in the list of offices that are potential targets - said: 'After years in which police forces rolled out the red carpet for trans lobby groups and harassed women's rights campaigners, it's no wonder that Bash Back seems to believe it can cause criminal damage with impunity.'

A government spokesman said: 'Threats, harassment, and vandalism are not only cowardly, they're criminal and we will pursue anyone who targets politicians and their staff in this way, with the full force of the law.

'The rhetoric from this group is dangerous and only seeks to distract from our work to improve the lives of trans people.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15416739/Trans-mobs-plot-smash-offices-senior-politicians-including-Prime-Minister-Wes-Streeting.html

Many years after Trans groups started using political violence to silence women it seems the Police are actually investigating when male politician's property is under threat. Figures.

Supporting Violence and silencing women was always the main aim of trans stuff. The truth is coming out.

Mumsnet has been monitoring this group for a while.Previous threads
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5384285-trans-group-attack-wes-streetings-constituency-office

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5436532-trans-activists-vandalise-ehrc-who-want-labour-to-reject-supreme-court-ruling-guidelines-re-sex-biology

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5425523-welcome-to-a-new-era-of-trans-rage

Trans mob's plot to smash up the offices of senior politicians

Militant group Bash Back has said its sights are set on senior politicians' offices, including the Prime Minister's and Wes Streeting - just months after vandalising his constituency office.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15416739/Trans-mobs-plot-smash-offices-senior-politicians-including-Prime-Minister-Wes-Streeting.html

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 06/01/2026 12:03

Helleofabore · 06/01/2026 09:39

Bash Back's behaviour seems oddly counter-productive. Actions like this will only alienate the public.

It absolutely is bonkers. Unless you think of it as them playing to their supportive audience only. Perhaps they think their egregious acts fire up peaceful action to follow through. Added to that, these people are likely fulfilling their revolutionist dreams. They can say they were like those throwing the first brick / stone. Whatever.

It also puts, in their mind and their supporters, their plight as one of extreme righteousness. These actions are warranted because of the genocide rhetoric used.

I really don’t think that their audience is the general public.

They believe they are the type of people who would have stood up to the Nazis in the 1930s and 40s.

In the absence of actual Nazis, they have decided Gender Critical feminists having the temerity to say no to trans ideological appropriation of women's rights, resources, history, language and cultural spaces for men are the next best thing to Nazis, giving them their much longed for opportunity to act out their fantasies of being The Type Of People Who Would Definitely Have Stopped The Nazis If Only They Had Been Born At The Time (tm)

The reality is that the people who were acting in secret and scared to be exposed were the ones who were fighting the Nazis. The ones with the flags and the informants and the public shaming for wrongthink and the idealist/fanatic youth group - well, they were the Nazis.

SidewaysOtter · 06/01/2026 12:06

FlirtsWithRhinos · 06/01/2026 12:03

They believe they are the type of people who would have stood up to the Nazis in the 1930s and 40s.

In the absence of actual Nazis, they have decided Gender Critical feminists having the temerity to say no to trans ideological appropriation of women's rights, resources, history, language and cultural spaces for men are the next best thing to Nazis, giving them their much longed for opportunity to act out their fantasies of being The Type Of People Who Would Definitely Have Stopped The Nazis If Only They Had Been Born At The Time (tm)

The reality is that the people who were acting in secret and scared to be exposed were the ones who were fighting the Nazis. The ones with the flags and the informants and the public shaming for wrongthink and the idealist/fanatic youth group - well, they were the Nazis.

They'd absolutely have given Anne Frank and her family away to the Gestapo for 'wrong views'.

It never fails to amaze me how totalitarian, dictatorial, violent, extreme and intolerant the TRA mindset is. Just like the Nazis they claim to fear, loathe and resist Hmm

Brefugee · 06/01/2026 12:08

5128gap · 06/01/2026 10:30

Completely agree. Anyone with any sense knows that you catch flies with honey.
They would do far better bringing some of the nice gentle wouldn't hurt a fly people that everyone seems to know to the fore, to sadly explain how hard their lives were, with a polite and humble request for concessions. The public responds well to an underdog.
I think this speaks far less of a strategy to further a cause, and far more of out of control young men, full of rage and seeking an outlet.

do they have a crowdfunder? perhaps we should contribute - so they can be more visible...

Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/01/2026 12:10

MarieDeGournay · 06/01/2026 11:33

A public denial statement, or a 'Free speech? Hell yeah!' statement?Smile

Again, I doubt they care all that much, they just want attention. If he tells them to fuck off they have another hate figure to whine about- win win.

Brefugee · 06/01/2026 12:12

They believe they are the type of people who would have stood up to the Nazis in the 1930s and 40s.

i also think they are hankering for the days when gay people would get a good kicking of a Saturday night. That is what we all fought against back in the day. And while i know gay and lesbian bashing still goes on, afaik it is not on the scale we saw in the 60s, 70s and 80s?

They so want to be both victims and on the RSOH it is painful to watch.

Greyskybluesky · 06/01/2026 12:16

Martin Freeman generally annoys the hell out of me. But if it is really him, he's gone up massively in my estimation!

5128gap · 06/01/2026 12:18

Brefugee · 06/01/2026 12:08

do they have a crowdfunder? perhaps we should contribute - so they can be more visible...

As far as I know, it's sufficient to raise their profile by knowing lots of them personally, and constantly referencing them everytime its suggested that we need to keep men out of women's spaces.

CreativeGreen · 06/01/2026 12:18

Well what do you expect from people who think the phrase is 'you've got another THING coming'....?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 06/01/2026 12:40

Brefugee · 06/01/2026 12:12

They believe they are the type of people who would have stood up to the Nazis in the 1930s and 40s.

i also think they are hankering for the days when gay people would get a good kicking of a Saturday night. That is what we all fought against back in the day. And while i know gay and lesbian bashing still goes on, afaik it is not on the scale we saw in the 60s, 70s and 80s?

They so want to be both victims and on the RSOH it is painful to watch.

Reminds me of a friend of mine who very deeply identified as the anti-Thatcherite leftist of her 80s youth while owning several BTLs and complaining about the tax she had to pay on them.

MarieDeGournay · 06/01/2026 12:47

SidewaysOtter · 06/01/2026 11:47

It absolutely is bonkers. Unless you think of it as them playing to their supportive audience only.

I think they genuinely see themselves as freedom fighters, it ties into the whole idea of people being good or bad, and not only demonstrating that you're one of the good guys but that you're brave enough to take a stand against "evil". Of course, that's all horribly simplistic but it's how thinking seems to go these days in progressive circles. That and seeing anything you don't like as assault/harm, which gives a justification for 'fighting back', 'fighting for your rights', 'surviving genocide' etc. etc.

There's also an element, I believe, of this being something of a fantasy, like the blurring of video games and real life. Which is why attracting the attention of the security services - who take absolutely no shit - is going to come as a horrible shock to them when the seriousness of what they've done and the weight of the law applies to them in ways they'd never imagined, and it becomes apparent that MI5/GCHQ/a prosecution barrister could not give a tuppeny fuck for their notions of moral purity, 'correct think' and being on the right side of history.

They do seem delusional - 'delulu'Smile - because they are claiming the authority and the justification of people who have really suffered oppression, up to and including genocide in the old-fashioned meaning of the word, and who have finally risen up on the basis that things are so bad that they couldn't be worse, to be met with batons and bullets and imprisonment and death

They want the flags and the slogans and the fame and the martyr status, but they don't want any consequences.

EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 06/01/2026 12:51

I am always reminded of the Not The Nine O'Clock News sketch where they all sit around to earnestly read Marx*, get fed up after about 3 lines and say sod this, let's go and kill people.

*Other ideologies are available

MarieDeGournay · 06/01/2026 13:13

EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 06/01/2026 12:51

I am always reminded of the Not The Nine O'Clock News sketch where they all sit around to earnestly read Marx*, get fed up after about 3 lines and say sod this, let's go and kill people.

*Other ideologies are available

Edited

That rings true - I've often noticed that the kind of demonstrations that very quickly turn into stone-and fireworks-throwing often consist almost entirely of teenage boys.

moggly · 06/01/2026 13:34

I see the Trans Bash Back website has been taken down. It's showing a 404 page now.

UtopiaPlanitia · 06/01/2026 13:52

I don't think groups like Bash Back and Just Stop Oil et al care as much about their cause as they care about punishing people who don't think the same way they do.

They seem more motivated by hate and a desire to hurt than by genuine love for a cause. They're miserable and they want to make sure that everybody else is just as miserable as they are. Very teenage way of looking at the world 🤷‍♀️

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 06/01/2026 14:12

MarieDeGournay · 06/01/2026 13:13

That rings true - I've often noticed that the kind of demonstrations that very quickly turn into stone-and fireworks-throwing often consist almost entirely of teenage boys.

And the kind of dysfunctional, unsuccessful teenaged boy you see on the police programmes who when arrested say in disbelief that no, they don't want to go to the police station, they don't want to be arrested, and they have to go home because their mum will have their tea ready.

SparklingCrow · 06/01/2026 14:19

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 06/01/2026 14:12

And the kind of dysfunctional, unsuccessful teenaged boy you see on the police programmes who when arrested say in disbelief that no, they don't want to go to the police station, they don't want to be arrested, and they have to go home because their mum will have their tea ready.

William Golding had it spot with the ending of Lord of the Flies when the boys are shaken out of their feral sub-culture by the unexpected arrival of the naval officer / authority figure.

Cool to think it was published in 1954.

I wonder if it’s still studied in schools?

GCSEBiostruggles · 06/01/2026 14:23

Do we think Wes might now revert to the NHS being able to say the word Women on the website, or admit we are the only ones with a womb and cervix?

FallenSloppyDead2 · 06/01/2026 14:38

UtopiaPlanitia · 06/01/2026 13:52

I don't think groups like Bash Back and Just Stop Oil et al care as much about their cause as they care about punishing people who don't think the same way they do.

They seem more motivated by hate and a desire to hurt than by genuine love for a cause. They're miserable and they want to make sure that everybody else is just as miserable as they are. Very teenage way of looking at the world 🤷‍♀️

They are the mirror image of far-right racist thugs. Just inadequate men, and a handful of women, spoiling for a fight to give meaning to their lives.

ArabellaSaurus · 06/01/2026 14:46

RoyalCorgi · 06/01/2026 09:27

Bash Back's behaviour seems oddly counter-productive. Actions like this will only alienate the public. In fact, I do wonder sometimes if a lot of so-called trans activists are agents provocateurs or fifth columnists, because their behaviour (violence, intimidation, threats and so on) seems designed to turn people against their cause.

Apart from alienating the public, they have quite clearly committed a criminal offence which should, if the police do their job properly, lead to them being publicly identified and prosecuted. I can't imagine they think this is a good outcome, but perhaps I'm wrong.

A final thought: the Canary has reported on this without any acknowledgement that a criminal offence has been committed or that hacking people's private data is morally wrong. It doesn't seem to realise that it too (if I've understood the law correctly) is breaking the law by publishing the names. It goes to show that these people are both very stupid and quite unfettered by any kind of moral understanding.

I did think this. But over and over again, I've thought - 'surely nobody could be this stupid', and trans activists have proved me wrong.

ArabellaSaurus · 06/01/2026 14:52

5128gap · 06/01/2026 10:30

Completely agree. Anyone with any sense knows that you catch flies with honey.
They would do far better bringing some of the nice gentle wouldn't hurt a fly people that everyone seems to know to the fore, to sadly explain how hard their lives were, with a polite and humble request for concessions. The public responds well to an underdog.
I think this speaks far less of a strategy to further a cause, and far more of out of control young men, full of rage and seeking an outlet.

'Let's pour piss over ourselves while wearing a see through frock'
'Let's expose our moobs in public'
'Let's post cardboard coffins to an MP'
'Death and rape threats are effective branding'
'Let's attack a feminist conference'
'Let's attack lesbians for meeting'

Later, on Reddit

'why does everyone haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate us?!'

Brefugee · 06/01/2026 15:00

FlirtsWithRhinos · 06/01/2026 12:40

Reminds me of a friend of mine who very deeply identified as the anti-Thatcherite leftist of her 80s youth while owning several BTLs and complaining about the tax she had to pay on them.

I do think it is ok to change your political stance as your life changes. In some people it is a natural progression.

But for others it just shows that they have a complete lack of empathy - they simply cannot imagine a scenario that doesn't affect them. You see it so much with women who whinge and whine about their colleagues not going out for evening functions because they have to rush back to the childminder and are absolutely against having them over lunchtime because... well no reason. And then 10 years later those same women are applying pressure to have all functions over lunchtime because they have to get back to the childminder. (and then whinge at you because you and some other colleagues are going to the cinema after work "oh it's alright for you, you don't have to rush back". Yes. I am still bitter about all of it) 😂

So someone who claims a trans woman identity simply cannot imagine the discomfort (at least) of having a man in your hitherto single sex space. And will not even attempt to understand it because now they are all about their new identity. Which isn't actually a woman or they would understand it automatically.

SidewaysOtter · 06/01/2026 15:08

ArabellaSaurus · 06/01/2026 14:52

'Let's pour piss over ourselves while wearing a see through frock'
'Let's expose our moobs in public'
'Let's post cardboard coffins to an MP'
'Death and rape threats are effective branding'
'Let's attack a feminist conference'
'Let's attack lesbians for meeting'

Later, on Reddit

'why does everyone haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate us?!'

They do really seem to struggle with the idea that there will be a consequence to their behaviours and that it can't all be made to go away.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 06/01/2026 15:19

Brefugee · 06/01/2026 15:00

I do think it is ok to change your political stance as your life changes. In some people it is a natural progression.

But for others it just shows that they have a complete lack of empathy - they simply cannot imagine a scenario that doesn't affect them. You see it so much with women who whinge and whine about their colleagues not going out for evening functions because they have to rush back to the childminder and are absolutely against having them over lunchtime because... well no reason. And then 10 years later those same women are applying pressure to have all functions over lunchtime because they have to get back to the childminder. (and then whinge at you because you and some other colleagues are going to the cinema after work "oh it's alright for you, you don't have to rush back". Yes. I am still bitter about all of it) 😂

So someone who claims a trans woman identity simply cannot imagine the discomfort (at least) of having a man in your hitherto single sex space. And will not even attempt to understand it because now they are all about their new identity. Which isn't actually a woman or they would understand it automatically.

Oh yes. It's not that she changed her political views, it's that she didn't realise her political identity, which like many her age was a big part of her personal identity, had parted company with her actual views and behaviour some time in her thirties. She was genuinely convinced that being taxed on her BTLs was typical of the Tories vindictiveness to the working classes.

In the case of TRAs, it's not realising that repressive authoritarianism and supessing dissent through fear in the name of "but we are the good guys" is no different to every other authoritatrian regime - they all think they are the good guys.

terryleather · 06/01/2026 15:19

UtopiaPlanitia · 06/01/2026 13:52

I don't think groups like Bash Back and Just Stop Oil et al care as much about their cause as they care about punishing people who don't think the same way they do.

They seem more motivated by hate and a desire to hurt than by genuine love for a cause. They're miserable and they want to make sure that everybody else is just as miserable as they are. Very teenage way of looking at the world 🤷‍♀️

"To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behaviour 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats"
Aldous Huxley

ArabellaSaurus · 06/01/2026 15:42

SidewaysOtter · 06/01/2026 15:08

They do really seem to struggle with the idea that there will be a consequence to their behaviours and that it can't all be made to go away.

I'm reminded of the Palestine Action folk who are apparently struggling to understand why people accused of violent terrorism aren't allowed bail while on remand.

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