Mail carry out investigation into Trans terror group Bash Back

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Trans mob's plot to smash up the offices of senior politicians - including the Prime Minister and Wes Streeting
A transgender activist group is planning a series of attacks on senior politicians' offices, including the Prime Minister's, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

Militant group Bash Back has said its sights are also set on Wes Streeting - just months after vandalising his constituency office.

The gender warriors said: 'If you think we're done, you've got another thing coming.
'MP or PM, you've seen us once, we'll see you again.'

The group's conspiracy was uncovered by this newspaper after it urged members to form 'cells' and plot criminal damage offences against high-profile targets.

A list of other potential marks include the Free Speech Union (FSU) and feminist organisation Sex Matters.

Last night, we notified the Metropolitan Police and the parliamentary security services of our findings.

FSU founder Lord Young commissioned an independent security briefing about the group, which is calling for 'total transgender liberation'.

A transgender activist group is planning a series of attacks on senior politicians' offices, including the Prime Minister's

Militant group Bash Back has said its sights are also set on Wes Streeting - just months after vandalising his constituency office

The report, obtained by The Mail on Sunday, suggests British intelligence is monitoring the trans activist cells....

In a pamphlet obtained by this newspaper, Bash Back claims to target 'organisations that promote transphobic rhetoric - from banning hormones and puberty blockers, to confining us to or defining us out of categories of woman and man, to promoting conversion therapy and facilitating hideous harassment campaigns'.

It says they 'should come to expect us', adding: 'All of our targets have blood on their hands. We refuse to let them wash it off in peace.'

Bash Back's first public attack was on Mr Streeting's Ilford North constituency office in July, when it painted 'child killer' and smashed windows months after puberty blockers were banned for children on the advice of medical experts and the Cass Review of gender identity services.

Since then, the group has formulated an action guide - seen by this newspaper - for sympathisers to carry out similar attacks.

The document details how to avoid police detection as they plot criminal damage and steal equipment while filming their actions.

A security briefing on the group - also seen by The Mail on Sunday - reveals it has gone to extensive lengths to hide its identity, including removing internal metadata from public documents and using ultra-secure email systems.

The security memo says: 'Given the first attack was on the office of a HM Gov minister, almost certainly the group responsible will be investigated by security services.'

Activists engaged in criminal activity could be among the near 3,000 profiles following Bash Back across social media platforms, the security document adds.

Maya Forstater, the chief executive of Sex Matters - also included in the list of offices that are potential targets - said: 'After years in which police forces rolled out the red carpet for trans lobby groups and harassed women's rights campaigners, it's no wonder that Bash Back seems to believe it can cause criminal damage with impunity.'

A government spokesman said: 'Threats, harassment, and vandalism are not only cowardly, they're criminal and we will pursue anyone who targets politicians and their staff in this way, with the full force of the law.

'The rhetoric from this group is dangerous and only seeks to distract from our work to improve the lives of trans people.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15416739/Trans-mobs-plot-smash-offices-senior-politicians-including-Prime-Minister-Wes-Streeting.html

Many years after Trans groups started using political violence to silence women it seems the Police are actually investigating when male politician's property is under threat. Figures.

Supporting Violence and silencing women was always the main aim of trans stuff. The truth is coming out.

Mumsnet has been monitoring this group for a while.Previous threads
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5384285-trans-group-attack-wes-streetings-constituency-office

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5436532-trans-activists-vandalise-ehrc-who-want-labour-to-reject-supreme-court-ruling-guidelines-re-sex-biology

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5425523-welcome-to-a-new-era-of-trans-rage

"Bash Back did all the criminal things and we are really good and wonderful and clever because we prioritze trans'women' and hate actual women, but no-one you have ever claimed or will in future claim to be part of Bash Back (including me typing this) are part of Bash Back."

Well they created the monster both literally and figuratively so they really should be blaming themselves for their poor parenting choices.
The judge has found that there's enough evidence to link him to the ĥack/case that he refused the anonymity application so however much this man may value his privacy is irrelevant.
What's that saying again oh yes, live by the sword die by the sword

"My client who is literally a cyber-security post-grad student is completely ignorant on legalities around cyber-security, and besides he is hard left so whatever he does is morally justified, every single time".

Oh me too!
I feel awful for thinking it too

I genuinely did it this morning. 6 ft tall, clean shaven man in early or mid 20s. Dressed fairly normal with a hint of the Brett Anderson or Jarvis Cocker about him. Long straight hair, and a jaw line that makes Christopher Reeve look a bit androngynous. "Is he a woman?" I thought.

Any who looks alternative and androgynous is someone who I would have gravitated towards as more interesting than your average person in 1995... 30 years on I will run a mile.

I think that’s a bit harsh. If the young man is autistic then you can’t parent that out of him just like a “refrigerator mother” couldn’t make him autistic in the first place. We’ve got no idea if they’re enabling his trans journey with gusto, being supportive with reservation or pulling their hair out. But any parent in this situation would be desperately worried. I feel sorry for them - if “Autumn” is found guilty then his future isn’t looking very bright. And maybe it was already a bit grim anyway - functioning in the real world is a lot harder than doing endless uni courses no matter how smart you are…

ETA no one gets an autism diagnosis if things are going well for them

We cannot help how we interpret society and how that affects our reactions to people we see or meet.

All we can do is make sure that we do our best to judge everyone based on their behaviours and what they state to be their opinions, and not allow our assumptions or preconceptions to encourage us into bigotry.

"If".

"Described as an ‘autistic, trans, anarcho-socialist, hackergirl’ on a now-deleted X account". Not exactly a reliable source is it, his own words?

Good point - but the facial expression/eyes on the graduation photo doesn’t rule it out either

Trans is a red flag for possible autism. Trans plus IT expert is a double red flag. It is more than possible he is autistic, diagnosed or not... but the idea that his words can be trusted is a bit far fetched to me!

Redpath has potentially messed up his future prospects badly here. If there are tutors at Warwick who should have known what he was doing and didn’t, or who did know and did nothing, or who who gave him duff or deficient instruction in the legalities of hacking, I hope that this comes out via the court/legal process.

@KnottyAuty I'm well aware of asd as I am autistic and so is my ds.
His autism doesn't excuse his criminal behaviour or his hypocrisy.
His parents had a responsibility to teach him that disagreeing with someone doesn't give him the right to attack, hack or dox people. They clearly failed on atleast the last two but probably all 3 due to him being part of bash back.
Someone who is capable of getting a uni degree and go on to study a masters is capable of understanding and obeying the law

I was always taught that ignorance of the law is no defence... but somehow we seem to be moving towards a position whereby the first thing a prosecution needs to do is prove that the accused is not part of a marginalized community, is not suffering any sort of mental ill health or neuro-diversity, and can recite the full text of the relevant law with no errors. If not how on earth can we expect the individual concerned to understand that theft / assault / hacking / murder is wrong?

Im not making any excuses but I know that with my DS and DH they don’t cooperate or take on board requests or rules. The PDA presentation can also cause someone to actively fight back against a perceived “demand” to follow a rule or act in a particular way. My lot defo act like that and it’s such a worry as they get themselves into trouble and it’s idiotic imo. A friend’s son used to get violent and she had to work out ways of asking without asking which was very complex snd not always successful. All I was saying was to not automatically blame the parents - but “Autumn” if guilty will have to deal with the consequences and no excuses. We will probably never know what he manages to learn from this… do better? Or how not to get caught next time? Urgh

He'll learn nothing. He's a member of the most marginalised and the most vulnerable remember. He's on TRSOH too. I don't know what it would take to give him an 'are we, am I, the baddies?' moment.

Pda is not an excuse for any of his behaviour.
He made an active choice to break the law.
His parents were responsible to teach him to obey the law or face the full consequences of his actions.
The law is the law, it can be an arse but it's still the law and must be obeyed (yes i know black and white thinking on my part). If you don't like the law then there's legal avenues to change it. He chose to ignore those avenues and go straight to criminal behaviour because he doesn't like the opinions of other people.
More to the point we have zero evidence that hes asd let alone pda other than his claim of asd.
We have collectively failed an entire generation by raising them to believe that they're feelings and opinions matter more than anyone else's and that as long as they are "on the right side of history" that the ends justify the means and they should face no consequences for their actions. This privalliged young man is a classic example another would be the PA thugs on remand for breaking a police woman's spine, or the German just stop oil guy who shut down a major bridge for more than a day and didn't think he should be deported when he got out of jail nor that he should've been jailed in the 1st place.

We do know that his parents support him. It’s in the Daily Mail article.

“Social media paints a picture of a close-knit, affluent family. Redpath’s mother has proudly displayed the trans flag in photos and another family member said he was ‘proud to stand alongside the amazing Autumn R every day’.”

He’s a privileged young adult who has a first from a top university, was in the sea cadets as a teenager and is wholly supported by at least one of his parents. There is nothing to suggest that if he is actually autistic, it is causing him any difficulties at all. I have no sympathy for his parents. They’ve enabled a radical who ruined other people’s graduation ceremony apart from anything else.

Yes there is a lot of self diagnosis going on online.

They’ve enabled a radical who ruined other people’s graduation ceremony apart from anything else.

Excellent point.

ETA no one gets an autism diagnosis if things are going well for them

Hmm. Not sure about that. Via state school support systems and the NHS, you're probably right. But there's a pretty well evidenced private industry handing out diagnoses like candy. Plus a lot of self diagnosis going on.

Do you mean Magistrates? If a case goes to Crown Court, the decision on guilt or innocence lies with the jury. Juries have (usually perversely IMO) declined to convict activists on occasion but that's not something you can lay at the judges' door.

Some v complex fraud cases & cases with a serious risk of tampering with/ intimidation of the jury can be heard by a judge alone but that hasn't happened in trials involving Just Stop Oil, Palestine Action, etc.

OTH, HMG appear to be taking seriously Sir Brian Leveson's peculiar idée fixe about dispensing with jury trial in many more cases, & with the example of Judge Alexander Kemp before us, that should worry everybody.

I admit both your points but within the NHS adult diagnosis often happens at tertiary level when presenting symptoms (typically severe anxiety & depression) have proved resistant to standard treatments, & a patient has the sheer luck to get a tertiary referral instead of being just kicked to the kerb by secondary services. Misdiagnosisis is commonplace, even at secondary level & adults with ASD will often find themselves diagnosed with OCD or Personality Disorders (usually Borderline). Once misdiagnosed, esp with a PD, it is really, really hard for patients to get a second opinion from anyone actually competent to diagnose, instead of some half-arsed "psychotherapist" with a misplaced yet touching faith in a few slender questionnaires.

I don't blame GPs, who rarely have specialist MH training & in general do their best, but secondary MH has devolved into an unpardonable amateur hour & because they're swamped & operating beyond their competence, you get institutional wagon circling.

In the NHS it’s the impossible even if you turn up with a private diagnosis from a proper CQC registered outfit. But you have to persuade someone to refer you there from school and that’s almost impossible also… Took 3 years with DD and her ADHD and we are looking at another 2 years or so in the queue…

Once at university though it may be easier via the student disability grants now I think about it. Anyway if he’s found guilty more facts will emerge in due course.

But the idea that a first class degree and sea cadets membership = stable/functioning/rounded young person made me give a wry chuckle!

Universities tend to just screen to autism, not diagnose it. For them it is making sure they meet their obligations under the equality act - which doesn’t require a diagnosis.

Yeah, a lot of us have good degrees & a structured environment like Sea Cadets could provide a navigable social context for some.