Has anyone left their spouse over GC views / pro-Islam stance

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Husband and I could never find common ground on gender critical views and his blindness to the harms of Islam to women. He has an inability to take in information that contradicts his world view. Has anyone left a spouse over this?

Tell me the western values that dont go with burka. What about freedom and a lady wearing what she chooses. Yes, you might not see her face. But I dont think anyone died on the spot because they couldn't see a woman covering ups face.
I personally wouldn't want to wear the burka. Its not just for me but if my fellow sister wanted to wear it and that's her choice, do I really care, is my life affected by it, am I going to lose money or win money...no.

I think you need to work on why youre so upset with hijab not why women wear it. I wear it and it was my choice to wear one year after reverting to islam. I wish I wore it sooner. I feel free and liberated.and I can show my hair to any woman I want to in privacy. All women are beautiful and unique in their own way and ig they dont want men looking at their hair, then they are free to cover it. The bible says cover your hair or shave it off in the old Testament.

No. Me and DH have opposite views on both topics. These things are rarely black and white. I think you'd need to be really lacking in critical thinking and probably quite arrogant to be unable to accept other have different views.

I’m glad that you have had positive experiences but I worked with a Muslim girl who told a different story to you. She had to wear a headscarf and told me she would be in trouble if anyone she knew saw her at work without it and it got back to her family that she wasn’t wearing it. Not everyone has totally supportive families. Another of my friends has a MIL who treats her like a slave. These are the experiences they have shared privately. They wouldn’t dream of saying these things publicly.

Yank here. They are cities that don’t allow local law enforcement to cooperate with Federal Immigration authorities unless the person in question has been convicted of a violent crime.

Women in the US wear more clothes than women in some other countries. It's generally considered inappropriate, for example, to be topless at the beach or sauna, while in some other places it's not. In a few places people don't wear anything.

Are you concerned about poor American and British women going around obliged to wear tops?

There are places where women are obliged to cover their faces in a way that I think is questionable. But the hijab is a pretty mild cultural difference in terms of covering, and isn't all that differernt than some of the western traditions around women covering their hair that were common fairly recently.

A city of sanctuary is one which welcomes refugees.

https://cityofsanctuary.org/

That is very sad indeed. Hijab is important but no way should she be forced to wear. And lastly the other sister is not her mil slave. Thats disgusting. I know in some cultures in Asia unfortunately the wife is seen as someone to cater to the mil every need. But thats culture not islam and I hope she gets away from that soon God.willing.

My OH is a Corbynite & we don’t agree politically. We live in a very white area & mainly middle class with some working class people. So he can’t really understand the issues involved as we’re not impacted. I work in a diverse inner city school & a lot of Muslim girls aren’t allowed to do things that most British girls take for granted. I don’t believe girls are treated equally in Islam. So YANBU to be concerned.

I got the impression they that OP was male.

What rights have been stripped away? Are you familiar with the legal aspects of Roe vs. Wade and how it was not codified for over 30 years?

Yes. I have heard similar stories from women here.

Right. There is such a thing as google. It is tangential to my original question.

Judgejudysno1fan · Today 17:36
Op, if you have issued with hijab its quite possible that your great grandmother wore one.
We are not forced to wear one. The quran says there is no compulsion and no forcing in islam.

Only women are required to cover their hair in Islam, never men. Of course it's sexist. Mainstream Judaism dropped the wigs and headscarves about a century ago.

Virtually 100% of respected Islamic religious scholars outside of developed western countries, state that 'their' women MUST cover their hair in public. Veiling is a requirement of being a good Muslim woman. There is no choice.

I'd be delighted to be given evidence that this is wrong or changing.

This sounds very made-up...

How so?

are you against all religions?

I find that it normalizes the subjugation of women and places the responsibility for how men react to female presence on women.

Men are obliged to dress modestly in Islam as well. They don't cover their hair, but is that really important? No one seems to freak out that Sikh women don't wear turbans.

Don’t know where OP is from but I know Sheffield is known as a city of sanctuary, amongst others in the UK.

I could be with someone who had different views as long as they weren’t an extremist. You sound very intolerant, and bordering on extreme in your views.

Not wanting your child to be friends with a Muslim is not ok. Also, men and women are both subject to rules about the way that they dress and what should be covered. Women are not considered less than.

I think the point is they see her as lesser because she is not 'modest' .

TBH I don’t know about hijab being optional. If you’re from a conservative Muslim family, then ‘optional’ probably means being shunned. It’s seen as immodest by many people.

Even growing up with a (Pentecostal) Christian non-white mother, I was called a prostitution for wearing a modest crop top and having boys who were my friends at school. It’s going to be the same or worse for some Muslim women, depending on the culture and version of Islam they follow.

I disagree with most of OP’s generalisations and fear over Muslims, though.

It's not the same burden at all. The majority of UK Muslim men dress the same way as other men. But the women, by being required to wear the hijab, are very clearly identifying themselves as Muslim. They look different to other women.

It is sadly common in many areas of London to see Muslim men in western attire, such as jeans & t-shirts, with their wives wearing a full face-covering burqa. Here, the unfairness to Muslim women is dialled up to the maximum.

OP, has he not seen how women are treated in Talibanic Afghanistan? Has he not thought how he'd feel if his daughter was upset at seeing a male, even a fully intact male at that, in the women and girls change rooms and toilets? He is full of Male Privilege and cannot see the privilege his oppressor and predator sex class has. Yes, I would absolutely leave him. Womens rights are so vital to me, it is a deal breaker. The fact that he has no respect for how vulnerable women and girls are, and no respect for our needs for privacy and dignity, show him to be a horrible man.

b) started being some kind of anti trans activist I would leave.

Yet if he became some kind of anti women activist you would stay?

Where have they even suggested that?!

How do you know they wouldn't want her daughter? Is that an admission that they won't date a non-Muslim girl?