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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Brigitte Phillipson blocking EHRC guidance

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lcakethereforeIam · 18/12/2025 20:55

I'm not sure if there's anything new here though

Phillipson blocks trans guidance after landmark Supreme Court ruling https://share.google/P91PBE5Cy4ROwsdA1

It's a very stark article in the Telegraph.

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HardyCrow · 10/01/2026 23:18

FallenSloppyDead2 · 01/01/2026 16:51

The minister for women and equalities insisted that spaces such as refuges for victims of domestic violence must only be accessible to biological women.

Perhaps we will be offered truly single-sex RCCs, DV units and so on, but the price of that will be allowing the men into toilets and changing rooms

So women and girls who have trauma from male violence just have to suck it up in toilets? Including those who are perhaps being counselled by single sex rape crisis. Make it make sense.

WarriorN · 11/01/2026 07:32

Keeptoiletssafe · 10/01/2026 15:38

To any newcomers, I am trying to keep everyone, of all demographics, safe. I have researched for several years why people come to harm in non-domestic toilets.

In terms of toilets deaths it is drug related, or self harm, or a medical incident from a diagnosed or undiagnosed condition. People with invisible disabilities (such as those with heart conditions, epilepsy, diabetes) are of particular risk of collapsing inside a toilet. They can then be left for hours if even days inside a cubicle if no one knows they are there. A common place to have a cardiac arrest either at home or out-of-home is on the toilet. It’s where people go when they feel ill and when you strain you put pressure on your heart. To help people survive a medical emergency (eg. use a defibrillator) you must know that they have collapsed.

People can also be assaulted within a cubicle. A private cubicle is more attractive as the occupants can not be seen. Perpetrators are male. Victims are women and children but could be of any demographic.

If you read my posts you can see the conundrum here. You can’t just change female toilets to mixed sex toilets by changing the sign on a door. You have to change the design of the toilets. Mixed sex toilets have to be private (floor to ceiling), resistant to the passage of sound and have the sinks inside them.

Healthwise it is proven there are more pathogens in mixed sex toilets. The air and surfaces will be covered in the microbes from the plume created from the previous occupants flushes. Ventilation can be restricted. Cleaning with mops and lots of bleachy water under the doors and partitions then letting it drain away can’t be done in full floor-ceiling private designs.

So, if you want mixed sex facilities, what you are doing is advocating for private designs - ironically these are least bad for healthy men.

The ONLY designs in England that the HSE say can have door gaps are single sex designs within single sex environments. At the time of the 1992 legislation, the standards for toilets recommended gaps for cleaning, ventilation, supervision and prevention of misuse. That’s why the legislation said if you had mixed sex toilets, they had to be in separate rooms.

I helped save the life of a young woman because I saw she has collapsed on the floor of a toilet cubicle in time so she could be resuscitated. That is why I am so passionate about single sex toilets. I know they have the ability to save lives and prevent assaults by design.

excellent post

a colleague was subjected to voyerism in a mixed sex pool changing area with large gaps beneath. I remember another collapsed in a toilet on a night out many years ago; looking back she may have been spiked. At the time everyone was clueless as she wasn’t drinking. We did only know as we saw her on the floor, under the gap.

Keeptoiletssafe · 11/01/2026 09:58

WarriorN · 11/01/2026 07:32

excellent post

a colleague was subjected to voyerism in a mixed sex pool changing area with large gaps beneath. I remember another collapsed in a toilet on a night out many years ago; looking back she may have been spiked. At the time everyone was clueless as she wasn’t drinking. We did only know as we saw her on the floor, under the gap.

The spiking problem is well known as women/girls head to the toilet when they feel ill. It’s the same when people are choking in a restaurant band feel embarrassed.

Paramedics advice is take someone with you to the toilet or if you are not with friends, let it be known you are ill and need help and prop the door open so you don’t block entry. Do not lock yourself in anywhere (including home).

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 11/01/2026 23:57

Cough! Mumsnet Petitions and Activism Noticeboard . . .
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard

fromorbit · 12/01/2026 17:07

Podcast about Phillipson with some new details.

Sonia Sodha

The line govt is feeding to journos on single sex spaces guidance delay here from around 14 mins in. Apparently it may or may not be published before Easter. Phillipson allies making wild claims EHRC acting in ‘staggeringly bad faith’. Childish is kind.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/bridget-phillipson-fights-back/id1709628885?i=1000744256866

Phillipson allies didn’t like EHRC under Kishwer Falkner so briefed against it and her. Now they’re doing the same against Mary Ann Stephenson because she said the guidance is legally watertight (it is). I wonder if they ever stop to think the problem might be the government?

transcript here
https://x.com/soniasodha/status/2010619464593883218

Sonia Sodha (@soniasodha) on X

The line govt is feeding to journos on single sex spaces guidance delay here from around 14 mins in. Apparently it may or may not be published before Easter. Phillipson allies making wild claims EHRC acting in ‘staggeringly bad faith’. Childish is kind...

https://x.com/soniasodha/status/2010619464593883218

moto748e · 12/01/2026 17:51

Easter, FFS! They are totally taking the piss.

SionnachRuadh · 12/01/2026 18:00

Better be careful. If it should slip past Easter, Bridget risks the wrath of LOJ asking how she could be so heartless as to approve the guidance in the month before Pride Month.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/01/2026 18:22

Phillipson is also still delaying issuing the final version of the guidance for schools. Guidance that schools have been asking for for years. It's essential given the pressure they're under from extreme transactivists and children / parents caught up in all this yet it's not anywhere on her agenda it seems..

moto748e · 12/01/2026 18:23

[invests in pitchfork futures]

1984Now · 12/01/2026 18:27

Phillipson strikes me as someone who's received a final demand bill, knows what's inside the envelope, knows she has to pay it, but isn't prepared to open the envelope, let alone sign the cheque.
But the demand can't be avoided, and the envelopes can only collect on the doormat for so long.

lcakethereforeIam · 12/01/2026 18:40

Someone flagged this on another thread

Parliamentary Petition: Approve and implement the EHRC guidance on meaning of sex in the Equality Act | Mumsnet https://share.google/GYZ3khb06YqRxRUCJ

It had less than 500 signature so I think getting 100k for a debate might be a bit of an ask, but i think we could see it get 10k for a response.

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 16/01/2026 16:18

Bravo Akua.

Phillipson needs to either do her job, or resign and let someone take over who can.

The many parents and professionals cynically commenting on her 'big conversation' about SEND 'reforms' and how it's obvious that all the decisions have already been made pre consultation and the talk about wanting to really hear parents' voices is just that, just 'talk', would wholly agree,.

IwantToRetire · 16/01/2026 16:35

What's depressing about this is that it brings home that whatever institution it is, it will only ever be the reflection of who is currently running it.

So the EHRC having been captured by Stonewall was then cleared of this bias by Lady Falkner (at her personal cost), and we wait to see what in practice it will be in its current set up.

Similarly the WEC is in a more overt way just another institution that becomes a prize or platform for one political group or another.

ie, in the end there is no mechanism to ensure us lowly voters and petitioners will ever be treated fairly as those responding to us are as much, if not more, seeing it as an opportunity to further their view point.

And Phillipson shows that in her handling of implementing the Supreme Court decision. ie her Labour Party cronies are more important than women - and indeed the judicial system in the UK!

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 16/01/2026 16:51

Streeting should now order an audit of NHS trusts to establish how many others are breaking the law, publish the results, and tell managers to make sure single-sex spaces are exactly that.

Oh, oh, Miss! We have one of those we made earlier!

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 16/01/2026 16:56

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 16/01/2026 16:51

Streeting should now order an audit of NHS trusts to establish how many others are breaking the law, publish the results, and tell managers to make sure single-sex spaces are exactly that.

Oh, oh, Miss! We have one of those we made earlier!

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(And just in case anyone missed the outcome, it’s 100%. 100% of NHS trusts are breaking the law.)

EasternStandard · 16/01/2026 17:10

The Darlington judgement looks pretty clear. All this dithering and not wanting to upset men. They can actually give guidance other than women must have single sex facilities can they?

Ie no biological men no matter how they present

ILoveLaLaLand · 16/01/2026 22:18

Phillipson is putting her own self-interest ahead of all other women's rights to dignity and privacy - shameless politician.

RhannionKPSS · 17/01/2026 00:01

PeppercornMill · 19/12/2025 09:51

3.5m people have signed the petition against Digital ID, Starmer is pressing ahead with it and broadening the scope every time he talks about it.

So petitions don't make any difference.

As we have found by his recent U turn on the use of digital ID petitions do work.

WarriorN · 17/01/2026 09:40

EasternStandard · 16/01/2026 17:10

The Darlington judgement looks pretty clear. All this dithering and not wanting to upset men. They can actually give guidance other than women must have single sex facilities can they?

Ie no biological men no matter how they present

(OBVIOUSLY) judgement applies to all public buildings

education too. Zero excuses

WarriorN · 17/01/2026 09:41

I’m concerned about the whole unisex provision too though. That is, as @Keeptoiletssafedilligently says, an issue

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 17/01/2026 10:18

It is an issue. However at least willing consent becomes involved, if not informed consent. Women who take that risk are consenting to take it, and not having it forced upon them, particularly as a condition of employment or access to services. That is the actively wicked part.

I often think the women passionately insisting that they wish to be able to validate men by undressing with them are very sadly only ever an hour away from a lifechanging experience that will make single sex provision a requirement for them. As it has for many of us. What is it Dickens says 'eyes opened by experience'? I won't mention the rest of the quote, I wouldn't wish such an experience upon anyone.

Keeptoiletssafe · 17/01/2026 10:28

WarriorN · 17/01/2026 09:41

I’m concerned about the whole unisex provision too though. That is, as @Keeptoiletssafedilligently says, an issue

Thankyou. I am writing a report to the Building Safety Regulator which is concluding that single sex toilets within a single sex environment with door gaps are the best design of toilets for non domestic provision.
Every other design compromises health and safety in some way.

So many organisations say we need to know where assaults are happening. What we don’t what is to create a problem by introducing more locations for this.

If you look at the EHRC consultation, some many be trying to squeeze a unisex (therefore private, sound resistant) toilet room into unsuitable low traffic areas.

It means anyone having an emergency in these toilets may not be found for days (toilets are not attended to that much).

I have looked at all the recent evidence of what has happened in various toilet designs around the country to come to these conclusions.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 17/01/2026 11:48

Saw this today in the BV Magazine Dorset, and thought it was well put:

"One of my favourite lines from Darkest Hour is: “You can’t negotiate with a tiger when your head is in its mouth.” It often comes to mind when thinking about this Government’s approach to rural policy. How do you even begin to lobby or negotiate with a Government like this? Short answer – you can’t!
We are dealing with an ideology: a tunnelled view that appears to be unwilling to listen. We are in uncharted waters."

He's talking about farming, but yep. Same issues.

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