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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Tall female Model kicked out of bathroom for being Trans

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BustyNatalie · 14/12/2025 20:31

Saw this article on the Mirror

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/glam-6ft5in-model-kicked-out-36399985

I've seen Charlie's tik tok videos. So so surprised to see that this has happened to her of all people. Hoping it's a one off and that other tall women don't experience the same.

Glam 6ft5in model kicked out of women's toilets after being mistaken for a man

Glamorous 6ft 5in model Charlie Mill, 30, from Lincoln, has revealed the “humiliation” she faces due to her height, including being kicked out of women’s toilets after being mistaken for a man

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/glam-6ft5in-model-kicked-out-36399985

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WifeOfTiresias · 02/01/2026 12:46

SummerFeverVenice · 14/12/2025 20:37

Transwomen can get surgery to alter their voice.

Take a from one who knows, you can still tell even after this surgery.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/01/2026 14:50

TheHereticalOne · 02/01/2026 11:32

This sort of situation - should it ever arise - would be easily resolved had our institutions not spent the past decade or so deliberately and happily issuing official documents which contain false information about the sex of the holder.

A quick flash of the driving licence and all would be cleared up, with blushes and apologies.

But public trust in official documents (driving licence, passport, even birth certificates) has now been seriously undermined and can no longer be relied upon to contain the objective, unchanging truth.

Being unable to quickly resolve situations like this is the least of the entirely predictable consequences of that irresponsible, infantile decision.

Driving licences don't have sex on, or at least not in an obvious way. Passports do.

TheHereticalOne · 02/01/2026 15:54

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/01/2026 14:50

Driving licences don't have sex on, or at least not in an obvious way. Passports do.

As you say, they do in fact indicate sex, but you have to know what to look for.

If you needed to demonstrate your sex to someone who doesn't know the licence 'code' that would tell you, flashing your driving licence plus a quick Google would clear it right up if the record were reliable (which it is not).

pawsedforthought · 02/01/2026 16:04

WifeOfTiresias · 02/01/2026 12:46

Take a from one who knows, you can still tell even after this surgery.

Completely agree, after facial feminising surgery, shaving of adams apple, boob job and more the TiM i'm thinking of is still obviously a man in a dress, although he has spent way more on plastic surgery than any women I know.

tobee · 02/01/2026 16:26

Yeah, transphobia is always someone else's fault

Nice epithet. What does it mean?

BundleBoogie · 02/01/2026 18:23

plinkyplonk123 · 01/01/2026 23:12

I would probably say it’s fault of us as a society reverting back to such a strict gender binary that anyone who doesn’t appear to be obviously ‘male’ or ‘female’ (whatever that means) are automatically assumed to be different and, therefore, ‘dangerous’.

Trans activists repeatedly claim that we think that because ‘trans people’ are different, we think they are dangerous. We don’t - because that is a huge generalisation that doesn’t take into account the wide variation in characteristics of the so called ‘trans community’.

A confused young girl with a history of sexual abuse and undiagnosed autism driving her ‘trans’ escape from reality identity has almost nothing in common with a middle aged man who admits he’s watched too much sissy porn and broken his brain realised his ‘true inner self’ is really a woman even though he has no idea what being a woman really is.

We just know that men have a far higher risk factor of being dangerous than women and no one can change sex. So men that say they are women are the issue because they are men. It’s not that deep.

anyolddinosaur · 02/01/2026 18:42

So a woman has decided to challenge a 6 ft 5 person they believe to be male in the ladies - yeah, right. Someone wanted publicity and got it.

Igmum · 13/01/2026 18:15

I was at an Akua Reindorff talk a few months ago. She is tall, slender and shaves her head. She remembered being ‘misgendered’ when 7 months pregnant and searching for the knitting section in a department store (men really don’t notice much do they?). She corrected the gentleman and moved on. Simples.

PPAP · 13/01/2026 19:24

Igmum · 13/01/2026 18:15

I was at an Akua Reindorff talk a few months ago. She is tall, slender and shaves her head. She remembered being ‘misgendered’ when 7 months pregnant and searching for the knitting section in a department store (men really don’t notice much do they?). She corrected the gentleman and moved on. Simples.

I'm 5ft4 and 125lbs. I have long read hair with a fringe and was wearing eyeliner today. A delivery driver said 'thanks brother' to me.

Slighly confusing but nothing to make a tweet/cry about.

plinkyplonk123 · 15/01/2026 00:22

ThatBlackCat · 02/01/2026 05:24

It's not 'gender' binary, it's a SEX binary. And the fact is, we have female single-sex toilets and facilities because the male sex class on a whole, are dangerous. 98%-99% (depending on which country you get the stats from) of violence is from the male sex class. Domestic Violence, rape, will tell you how 'dangerous' men are. Ask rape survivors like me!
And, for privacy and safety, of course.

I also find it strange that society has flourish and reproduced for multi-millennia, had no problems discerning male from female, until 10-15 years ago, yet those like you are now saying we can't tell male from female. Funny that. Funny how it is only now, after multi-millennia, we 'can't tell'. How the fuck did our ancestors cope.

And yes, there is a there a difference between the male and female skeleton. Male skull and male jawbone, height, gait, lack of hips, limb length, hand and feet size, adams apple, square broad shoulders and finally voice. All of these 'tells' have been a part of society since the first male and first female were made. It's not a mystery how to tell the sexes apart. It is so fucking easy!

On your point of the history of trans people: that’s not the truth? Trans people have existed for much longer than 10-15 years ago and a quick Google search would show you this. This is also apparent in non-western cultures.

And yes, you are obviously correct there are biological differences between sexes - very few people are disputing that and those who are are the exception (you cannot call out an exception and say it is the rule).

ThatBlackCat · 15/01/2026 01:05

plinkyplonk123 · 15/01/2026 00:22

On your point of the history of trans people: that’s not the truth? Trans people have existed for much longer than 10-15 years ago and a quick Google search would show you this. This is also apparent in non-western cultures.

And yes, you are obviously correct there are biological differences between sexes - very few people are disputing that and those who are are the exception (you cannot call out an exception and say it is the rule).

I didn't speak about 'the history of trans people'. I said that until very recently, we had no problems telling a male from a female. This has been true since the dawn of time.

ShowMeTheSea · 15/01/2026 01:28

Poms · 14/12/2025 20:42

Here come the boys to tell us off

No.
People aren't automatically "boys" "telling you off" if they point out that yes, sometimes women (women who aren't trans and who were born female) sometimes get mistaken for being male and that it's shit when it happens.
It's not "collateral damage" and you should just "suck it up" like I've seen said on here before, it's horrible when it happens.
Women come in all shapes and sizes. They can be 6 foot tall, have big hands etc.
Yet you'll still see some knob on here saying they can "tell" they're not female as they're too tall or whatever.

Gretel346 · 15/01/2026 01:36

Delphinium20 · 14/12/2025 20:33

And who's fault is this? If certain men hadn't been pushing boundaries . . .

'The devil made me do it'

Really?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 15/01/2026 01:58

ShowMeTheSea · 15/01/2026 01:28

No.
People aren't automatically "boys" "telling you off" if they point out that yes, sometimes women (women who aren't trans and who were born female) sometimes get mistaken for being male and that it's shit when it happens.
It's not "collateral damage" and you should just "suck it up" like I've seen said on here before, it's horrible when it happens.
Women come in all shapes and sizes. They can be 6 foot tall, have big hands etc.
Yet you'll still see some knob on here saying they can "tell" they're not female as they're too tall or whatever.

I would sooner be asked whether I'm female every time I use a women's loo for the rest of my life than have even one trans-identifying woman put into a men's locked facility, such as a psych ward in which a TIW was allegedly raped multiple times within an hour of her arrival.

Well this was totally predictable | Mumsnet

Woman identifying as a man is 'raped in all-male psychiatric ward' [[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15461027/Transgender-man-raped-male-psyc...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5475381-well-this-was-totally-predictable

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 15/01/2026 02:05

HildegardP · 15/12/2025 23:41

It happens (I'm 1.85m) & it's a total nothingburger. All sorted in seconds. I'm afraid I don't believe Ms Mills but I'm sure this will play well in "Queer" circles & give a boost to her work as dominatrix specialising in servicing men with a "giantess fetish". (Such men are an especially slimy kind of creep, be glad you are spared them.)

I'm glad you said that. I'm tall in a 'wow you're tall!' way but probably just under the threshold for any sort of fetishist. (Sorry if you have experienced that!)

I would have thought that for those who are well over 6', being mistaken for a man would unfortunately have been a 'thing' long before the trans movement took hold. I don't think the two are linked at all.

Namelessnelly · 15/01/2026 05:51

ShowMeTheSea · 15/01/2026 01:28

No.
People aren't automatically "boys" "telling you off" if they point out that yes, sometimes women (women who aren't trans and who were born female) sometimes get mistaken for being male and that it's shit when it happens.
It's not "collateral damage" and you should just "suck it up" like I've seen said on here before, it's horrible when it happens.
Women come in all shapes and sizes. They can be 6 foot tall, have big hands etc.
Yet you'll still see some knob on here saying they can "tell" they're not female as they're too tall or whatever.

But surely that would have been happening before gender ideology kicked off? If not, the cause must be the fact women are now having to be hyper vigilant about who is in there spaces as there is a certain kind of man who invades women’s spaces. So yeah, either it’s been happening throughout history that tall women have been confronted, and was not treated as a big deal, or the fact men are now invading women’s spaces is making it a big deal. Which is it?

PrettyDamnCosmic · 15/01/2026 10:11

plinkyplonk123 · 15/01/2026 00:22

On your point of the history of trans people: that’s not the truth? Trans people have existed for much longer than 10-15 years ago and a quick Google search would show you this. This is also apparent in non-western cultures.

And yes, you are obviously correct there are biological differences between sexes - very few people are disputing that and those who are are the exception (you cannot call out an exception and say it is the rule).

Transexuals didn't exist until cross sex hormones & experimental surgery allowed them to be created. The very idea didn't exist prior to around a hundred years ago. There was the odd individual like April Ashley in the early 1960s. Most famously James Morris became Jan Morris when he had his "sex change" operation in Tangier in 1972. The history of "trans people" is very short indeed despite what activists claim.

HildegardP · 15/01/2026 14:17

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 15/01/2026 02:05

I'm glad you said that. I'm tall in a 'wow you're tall!' way but probably just under the threshold for any sort of fetishist. (Sorry if you have experienced that!)

I would have thought that for those who are well over 6', being mistaken for a man would unfortunately have been a 'thing' long before the trans movement took hold. I don't think the two are linked at all.

It was a "thing" for me since childhood & amplified my ASD gender woes. The whole reification of "gender performance" over immutable sex creates & intensifies confusion & distress. Now it's somewhat worse because in addition to often being mistaken for male, I also have to endure various mush-brained Millenials deciding that I'm an enbie. 🙄

HildegardP · 15/01/2026 14:32

plinkyplonk123 · 15/01/2026 00:22

On your point of the history of trans people: that’s not the truth? Trans people have existed for much longer than 10-15 years ago and a quick Google search would show you this. This is also apparent in non-western cultures.

And yes, you are obviously correct there are biological differences between sexes - very few people are disputing that and those who are are the exception (you cannot call out an exception and say it is the rule).

You can only make your assertions about trans people existing in non-Western cutures via a thoroughly colonial appropriation & misrepresentation of social roles in other countries.

The Muxe, Kothey, Fa'afafine & Fa'afatama as just a few examples, do not pretend to have become the opposite sex, but because they are ordinary people from poor countries, (Lavishly-funded) Western trans activists have no compunction at all about talking over them, instrumentalising their social roles to artificially inflate the trans constituency & secure advantageous decisions from international NGOs & supra-national bodies.

It's the sine qua non of "erasing identities".

As to your final point, sex differences exist, sex is immutable so on what rational basis do people who "change gender" claim access to provisions made for the opposite sex?

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