Robin Ince quits working for the BBC over his support for men in dresses and terrorists

[SingleSexSpacesInSchools]

Shame really he’s a nice guy, a huge bibliophile, met him a few times at book signings, the last live show of his I saw he did shoehorn in “and of course trans women are real women” or some such nonsense.

guessing the infinite monkey cage is cancelled now, that was in my top five podcasts.

can’t do a popular science show and think women can have a penis though. Wonder what Brian thinks?

the video of his love resignation , presumably at the end of a monkey cage recording, is here
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1plg02g/bbc_presenter_robert_ince_claims_he_has_been/

notably he doesn’t say how men in dresses are being treated badly. Everyone has a blind spot.

Oh, that's a whole other basket of fun.

Sophie Molly/Sparkles/Weddell kicked up a fuss about the card. Got the TRAs all riled up. So the people who make it to withdrew it and pulped it. Turns out they are a small, inclusive company 😆

It turns out that the card in question was made by an inclusive company and artists. It was oversight on their part and I fully accept their apologies. Thank you Sophie Perry for working on this with me.

https://bsky.app/profile/sophiemolly.co.uk/post/3ma6humzfvs2l

So an actual card made by an inclusive collective of artists gets pulled because it offends people from that same community.

Bluesky gonna Bluesky. After the initial round of congratulations from followers:

‪Andre Harris‬

"Is the irony that you posted this on twitter lost on you? It's an inoffensive card but you took to the most transphobic social media site to complain about it and had an article written by an outlet thay only last year was called out for being transphobic"

The Peoples Front of Judea has really got it in for the Judean People's Front.

Not all TRA's are happy with Euan complaining about the Xmas card.

Again, this whole thing making such a mountain over a Christmas card is exactly the kind of thing that gives people ammo against the community

I do wonder how they choose their lady names. There is a preponderance of Emily's Sophie's and Sarah's

I think it's one of those mysteries, like teen girls wanting to be called Cameron or Felix.

Maybe it’s the names of girls they fancied when they were boys?

I think it’s a subconscious desire for a sort of fragrant 1950s ladylikeness, as demonstrated by the transsexuals featured in this programme, kindly linked to by someone else a few days ago. I was 20 in 1973 and would have considered them utterly awful as well as dreadfully old fashioned if I had met them then.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0jy43dv/open-door-transex-liberation-group

I like to think that I exist in a Schrödinger-style superpostion of multiple eigenstates until I collapse the waveform with my choice. I'm special, me 🧐 (and I've watched/read a lot of hard sci-fi) 😬

Yeah, but your perception of ‘choice’ is just some combination of deterministic causality spiced with random events at the quantum level over which the structured heap of atoms forming ‘you’ has no agency.

Probably.😂

Then I don't believe in eg Gravity or Quantum Physics. Certainly there are no propositions with which I can agree. I am not competent to judge them . However I have faith in them. Or perhaps in the clever people who understand them.

I'm Christian myself but I don't think trust in a spouse loving you is a good comparison. Presumably you can see, hear and feel a loving spouse, and things they do will suggest that they love you.
God doesn't provide any of those things in any major religion, or rather, not in a straightforward way.

🤣 Sounds likely

If I were a boy I think I'd think Felix was a good name. Cameron otoh is incomprehensible due to negative associations with the PM..

Cameron has, afaik, been used as a girls name in the US for some time so it may be an import. And a prime minister from when they were in primary school is likely to be completely irrelevant to teenage girls.

Cameron Diaz must be the one who popularized it.

Many years ago I did some work in youth training, and I could tell whose parents had been big Dynasty fans, because there was a spike of teen girls with names like Fallon and Alexis, and that spike only lasted for about two years before those names disappeared from the registers again.

These days, if I encountered names like that, I'd assume they were middle aged blokes returning from Malaga.

Ha, yes the only ‘Fallon’ I can think of is from the Archers - exactly right era and I don’t doubt Jolene was a dynasty fan.

Fallon Fox is the other Fallon that comes to mind

I mean, I think quite a lot of people would say they experience God in various ways, however, I'm not really comparing, I'm just trying to give a sense of what the word faith means.

For some reason a lot of people are taught that it means "believing in something that there is no evidence for." which is really not the sense of it at all.

True .. my family were no fans of Cameron so he had negative associations when I was a younger child (uni student now) & I haven't really been impressed by him since. Younger teens now wouldn't have that impression.

I think it’s their mothers.

Well, for some of them. A reinvention and improvement of the woman who gave them life, their ego, their memories, their sense of self.

I know what you mean....I like to think they do, but I remain a bit sceptical. Mystics etc have produced wonderful accounts sometimes, but questions remain. As CS Lewis & others noted, mystical accounts seem similar across cultures. As do psychedelic experiences, among other things. This doesn't mean God is NOT involved, but it does raise issues.
There's also the fact that auditory hallucination may be a common thing for people to experience once or twice in their life, without mental illness, so while simplistic 'they're mentally ill' explanations often fail, this doesn't necessarily mean it's divine.
Tanya Luhrmann's books are interesting on this. She's a sociologist who spent long periods with various religious people who claim to experience God, and while she's doesn't state definitely that they aren't (which ofc no one can), she does note that psychological techniques they're encouraged to practice probably facilitate traits like higher absorption which could generate sensed presences without these presences necessarily existing.

It’s a word with multiple meanings including the latter - liable to be said by someone meaning one thing and heard as another I suppose.

Has Brian Cox made any sort of statement/response to Robin Ince yet?

I don’t do X/Bluesky and haven’t seen anything.

I don't think so - and I can see why dignified silence is a good approach right now