Ofcom will now investigate Talk Tv re transphobia.

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Here we go again.

From Good Law Project:

We said we’d sue over Ofcom’s decision to dismiss 22,000 complaints about transphobia on TalkTV – now the regulator has caved.

But we had monitored its output for July 2025, a month in which it carried 11 discussions on trans people. And in every discussion, its hosts and guests consistently spouted transphobic views. TalkTV’s stance mirrors the broader editorial position of its sister newspaper The Times, whose toxic and intellectually dishonest campaign against trans people we believe to be a contributor to the rise in hate crime against them.

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Among my misdeeds, apparently, is that I said this on air: "By definition, if you’ve had to get a piece of paper to say that you are a woman, you must accept then that you are man."

I'm happy to be found guilty of defending women's rights and safety, knowing the actual law, understanding basic biology and knowing what a woman is. 🤷🏻‍♀️

The utility of this experiment is for you to give me a chance to understand your concepts of male and female, since you can't define them with words.

There's literally no point in you explaining how you identify sex/gender in the real world, if I have zero idea what you mean by sex and gender in the first place.

GDysph and GEuph were mentioned the same amount of times as incongruence. We can all see it.

Clearly they're not comfortable telling people who don't have Gender incongruence they're not trans.

But what do they know?

Also, think you might have missed the post that said "you're trans if you say you are, that's kinda it"

This is where you keep limiting the trans experience to suit your personal position.

While other people, who have transgender identities, have stated that they have a different experience. Different posters keep pointing this out and and yet you just double down. While admitting you are not transgender yourself.

By doing this you have arbitrated who is and is not transgender according to your own personal definition.

Plus ca change.

Any thoughts on Pips?

@puppymaddness apologies if this has been answered already - but I presume you agree that male violence and abuse is an issue for women and that spaces for biological women are important?

I think we will have to agree to disagree on the substance of what they were discussing, its relevance or its reliability in understanding trans experience.

What matters is the testimony of trans individuals regarding their own direct experience of being trans- as well as what we can observe objectively scientifically-
although the latter is much more limited of course,

I particularly like this one:

"Generally speaking, it is transmedicalist to look for any medical/physiological reason for trans identity. It all boils down to the same problem. When you define something by a series of conditions, you will leave some cases out.

Let's say we presume that gender incongruence is the condition for being trans. You find someone who doesn't experience gender incongruence, no dysphoria, no euphoria, and they're still trans. What do you do then?

We don't fully understand it, and it's complicated. There could be many reasons why people want to live in a body different than their sex assigned at birth. What gives us the authority to determine any of those reasons are better or worse than any others?"

Completely at odds with Puppy's position.

How do you evidence that someone is trans? How do I know whether my son is trans, or just one of several stereotypes, one that I have imposed on him because I have told you that he says he's trans?

Well, considering we can't get her to give us a definition of "male" or "women", I don't think this question will go anywhere.

Seethlaw, may I ask if in your conversations with others have you come across any coherent explanation as to how people interpret their belief about themselves event they describe themselves as genderfluid ?

I have seen people with that identity describe changing constantly throughout the day. Have you come across a coherent description of what these people are interpreting about themselves?

It's really not. They are simply speculating and theorising about definitions of things.

In a way I agree with them- it's like what I was saying about being female. you can say that all females have xx chromosomes , then you find one that doesn't. It's recognising that there is diversity, there is nuance, there are always differences and exceptions to every rule .

And yet still - being trans is a real thing - that we can describe / identify . It is a person who has a difference in the brain/ psyche whereby they perceive themself to be other than the sex they were assigned at birth.

Quite.

Not the right kind of trans experience these trans people are having.

Absolutely crackers that posters on a famously hard-line sub Reddit are more relaxed in their definitions of their own identity.

I don't know if your son is trans, however, I believe you said he changed his name and pronouns and insisted you see him as his daughter? And he has basically cut contact because you won't? I'd say that is pretty strong evidence that he is trans.

I think might have gone insane.

God, Queer Theory is boring as shit. I can't believe how it took over academia. I guess it was an opportunity for third rate minds to say any old crap and then refuse to define terms.

Punctuation 'tells' are always fascinating, I find.

Not the right kind of trans experience these trans people are having.

They.aren't.discussing.their. experience 😂🥴🤭

Ah, I see, we're playing "I have my own definition, which doesn't align with anyone else's definition" again, right?

What they call "gender incongruence" is precisely "a difference in the brain/ psyche whereby they perceive themself to be other than the sex they were assigned at birth". And they explicitely say that it must not be considered necessary to be trans. So no, they don't agree with you, at all.

And you're not fucking discussing yours either!!

Quite. Puppy is just Butler without a thesaurus.

I'm still offended that Puppy told me I'm not trans. I am if I say I am.

I think we've discussed this as far as we can.
These people are not describing their experience of being trans; they are discussing their definitions/ theories about things. Trans people have a range of opinions , just like cis people do. You are gender critical; which I think is nonsensical. You also have lots of ideas about other trans people that I don't agree with. None of this has anything to do with your own direct experience of being trans .

Sorry, Helle, I have no experience with genderfluid people. I can imagine what they mean from what I've read (ie. what it would mean to me to be genderfluid), but I've never discussed it with one of them.

Certainly not! I never said I was:

Puppy, we're not fucking cis people.